Vanden Plas Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Talking of wings… mine finally gave up the ghost again, it does get punished. So I got the white version, it is a HSP racing one. Think it looks cool with the pro-line wheels 😃 Edited May 4, 2022 by Vanden Plas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldyMan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 16 hours ago, Vanden Plas said: Talking of wings… mine finally gave up the ghost again, it does get punished. So I got the white version, it is a HSP racing one. Think it looks cool with the pro-line wheels 😃 Links? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldyMan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Mine got a new aluminium front plate and Carnage bumper as I've already bent a shock rod. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Plas Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Hmmm, white one was more brittle than a twig!!! One flip and this is how it looked!! the black version lasted ages and was very durable. Must be made of completely different plastic! Probably best to avoid this one! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Plas Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 6 hours ago, BaldyMan said: Mine got a new aluminium front plate and Carnage bumper as I've already bent a shock rod. Looks like a sensible option, I am not sensible, I got sick of the front bumper breaking so I just cut that bit of the chassis off and have no bumper!!! I did upgrade the shocks to big bore ones that are much tougher than the plastic stock ones tho! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldyMan Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Vanden Plas said: Looks like a sensible option, I am not sensible, I got sick of the front bumper breaking so I just cut that bit of the chassis off and have no bumper!!! I did upgrade the shocks to big bore ones that are much tougher than the plastic stock ones tho! It hasn't worked out. The Carnage bumper fixes to the front plate but needs a rear suspension mount fitting at the front because of the central support arm on the bumper. Without that the bumper just bends back and snaps as I have discovered. I'm putting the Vantage bumper back on and will just have to be more careful. Also the blue anodized plate got scratched instantly. I was expecting it to last a bit longer. All I did was bump it up from grass to my brick patio. It's like less than an inch higher and that's enough to scratch it. If I wreck the shocks again I'll swap them out for big bores on the front. Probably my next upgrade will be the pinion and spur gears. I just don't know whether I should get the 32DP or the 48DP Edited May 6, 2022 by BaldyMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, BaldyMan said: It hasn't worked out. The Carnage bumper fixes to the front plate but needs a rear suspension mount fitting at the front because of the central support arm on the bumper. Without that the bumper just bends back and snaps as I have discovered. I'm putting the Vantage bumper back on and will just have to be more careful. Also the blue anodized plate got scratched instantly. I was expecting it to last a bit longer. All I did was bump it up from grass to my brick patio. It's like less than an inch higher and that's enough to scratch it. If I wreck the shocks again I'll swap them out for big bores on the front. Probably my next upgrade will be the pinion and spur gears. I just don't know whether I should get the 32DP or the 48DP The zorro bumper might work, it has the brace buit in and unlike the outlaw / carnage one used above that has the wishbone, that needs a different shock mount to screw too.https://wheelspinmodels.co.uk/i/316950/ Usally find 32dp is nice because most other cars run it, also benifits have bigger teeth that resist damage, chuck the ftx brass pinion away and get a steel one too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Plas Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 10 hours ago, BaldyMan said: Probably my next upgrade will be the pinion and spur gears. I just don't know whether I should get the 32DP or the 48DP Not sure how changing the spur will be possible with the slipper clutch setup on the vantage as the clutch pads sit in recesses in the spur, other spurs will just be flat so the slipper clutch pads won’t sit right. You can get steel versions, I have this and run it with a 27t steel pinion and have had no issues since I fitted it. unless of course they make 32 or 48 dp spurs with the machined bit for the slipper! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldyMan Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 46 minutes ago, Vanden Plas said: Not sure how changing the spur will be possible with the slipper clutch setup on the vantage as the clutch pads sit in recesses in the spur, other spurs will just be flat so the slipper clutch pads won’t sit right. You can get steel versions, I have this and run it with a 27t steel pinion and have had no issues since I fitted it. unless of course they make 32 or 48 dp spurs with the machined bit for the slipper! They do. They have 32DP and 48DP spur gears available and they have the recess for the gaskets too. Obviously you need a 48DP pinion to match the spur. The brass pinion looks chewed up already but the spur gear still looks fine. I'll probably change them as a pair next month because wifey dear is whining about the spends again. Modelsport.co.uk sell a hardened steel 32DP spur and pinion set but that's out of stock. A lot of people seem to be going with the hardened acetal plastic spur over steel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldyMan Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Redback said: The zorro bumper might work, it has the brace buit in and unlike the outlaw / carnage one used above that has the wishbone, that needs a different shock mount to screw too.https://wheelspinmodels.co.uk/i/316950/ Usally find 32dp is nice because most other cars run it, also benifits have bigger teeth that resist damage, chuck the ftx brass pinion away and get a steel one too. I believe the Zorro bumper does fit, it's whether it looks a bit daft. The Carnage one did look a bit daft, I'm just going to improve my driving and I'll probably just buy another truck for general bashing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zlab Posted May 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) Hi guys! well it's been quite a while... last summer i gave up on carnage, as it was constantly breaking the diffs... Then about two weeks ago i took it off the shelf and decide to give it another try, rebuilded the diffs and for now it seems to hold on well, ran around 6 packs on it... I think i found the problem and i am angry on myself, that i did'nt notice that before 🙄 Too much suspension travel... i remember exeprimenting with the shock mounting position, which i now noticed caused that much suspension travel, that when suspension was in it's end position, the rear dogbones and front cvd's were pushing on the diff cups... This could effectivelly messed the gear mesh on every jump and bump. Well this is my theory, will see how it will behave now... I also finally mounted the hardened steel spur, no more plastic gears Oh and the carnage got two new sets of tyres: https://www.prolineracing.com/product/1-10-trencher-lp-front-rear-2.8-mt-tires-mounted-12mm-blk-raid-2/PRO1015910.html https://www.prolineracing.com/product/1-10-street-fighter-lp-fr-rr-2.8-mt-tires-mounted-12mm-blk-raid-2/PRO1016110.html Here it is, all dirty with the new street tyres to be tested... Edited May 10, 2022 by zlab 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyklone6 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I still get my FTX out now and again and enjoy it. Although I have to confess the best thing I ever did with my Carnage was put Vantage parts on it and make it a buggy conversion since I also kept breaking diffs and arms. Smaller wheels and less rolling resistance (not to mention the mass it carries into a crash) has made it seem like its overall a bit more resilient. I was getting sick of carring it back to the car in pieces Don't even talk to me about that waste of plastic they call a bumper... 😅 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vanden Plas Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2022 So had a incident with the vantage, was hooning it at full throttle and decided it would be a good idea to slam the anchors on and the front dived and dug in the ground sending it about 10 feet in the air! I think I may have made this thing too quick!! Anyway snapped the front chassis clean off, she looked a sorry state crumpled on the floor ☹️ so now she has a shiny new aluminium front end and new bumper so I can just smash the main chassis to bits! perhaps just be a bit easier when breaking from full whack! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Williams Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Finally got round to a few more mods (due to crashes) Alloy floor pan, It's a Chinese job but fits perfectly! latest was to fit a set of Injora shocks Via AliExpress. Very nice shocks! not had a chance to test drive it yet but feels much better. only gripe is that the ball joints are quite loose fitting. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001325654336.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.113b1802WLkczP Will post pics soon 😄 Edited May 20, 2022 by Keith Williams Addition 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keith Williams Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 On 20/05/2022 at 23:06, Keith Williams said: Finally got round to a few more mods (due to crashes) Alloy floor pan, It's a Chinese job but fits perfectly! latest was to fit a set of Injora shocks Via AliExpress. Very nice shocks! not had a chance to test drive it yet but feels much better. only gripe is that the ball joints are quite loose fitting. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001325654336.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.113b1802WLkczP Will post pics soon 😄 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyklone6 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Nice looking buggy @Keith Williams What is the rear wing from? My lexan one is looking tatty... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Williams Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 On 28/05/2022 at 20:58, psyklone6 said: Nice looking buggy @Keith Williams What is the rear wing from? My lexan one is looking tatty... Thanks, spotted the spoiler on ali Express, it's semi rigid and has stood a couple of rolls and cartwheels. Less than £2 just had to re-drill the mount holes as the originals weren't right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain .R Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Just bought new carnage rear arms they arrived to day an they are smaller than the ones I have . Exactly the same just smaller the seller says there carnage ones are the vantage ones smaller???or bugsta ???? Ps any one want to swap ? Pair of smaller rear plastic arms for longer carnage ones . Cheers . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyklone6 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 The Vantage ones aren't as wide, sounds like the seller is confused... Carnage and Bugsta are identical, IIRC, apart from the body and tyre tread pattern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain .R Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Hi cheers . So what parts have I bought there identical in shape and design but just about inch shorter . And there for the rear. So cant have shorter back ones did think about putting them on the front but cant be bothered to swap all the stuff over . . So what car do these fit . Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Plas Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Iain .R said: Hi cheers . So what parts have I bought there identical in shape and design but just about inch shorter . And there for the rear. So cant have shorter back ones did think about putting them on the front but cant be bothered to swap all the stuff over . . So what car do these fit . Cheers This is weird as the front and back arms are different in design as well as length so I doubt you have the front ones. The vantage rear arms are very similar in design but doesn’t have the whole of the hinge pin covered, according to the drawings although I don’t have a carnage so I don’t really know. I would recommend just putting in the part number ftx6321 into google and comparing what you have to that! https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/365910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Plas Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 This is what the vantage ones look like 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbringer Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Get back onto the seller and tell em you definately got wrong parts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain .R Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Cheers guy I will let him know but no point posting them back as they was only £5 if bought another pair off diffrent seller an they same size I'll just let him know cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbringer Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Should still ask for a refund 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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