sean-vrs Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 45 minutes ago, atom3624 said: I suppose that's over 100 mph scale speed, so 'about right' in reality, but scarily SLOW. Within a Monster Jam type environment, with scale-type jumps, etc., it might look good. Slower than a Tamiya - that takes some doing!! Al. back in the day that was the con a model would say 50mph then when you tried it,it would go at walking pace, then you checked the box again and in small print it said "scale speed" you know it's not acceptable it's that slow the chap is laughing!! scale speed is just wrong (I've been a very upset child at Christmas in the past) on the plus side my x01 does 700mph ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Hold on a minute. Is this an XO1, or a Hyper GT? 12th Scale Pan car? No. It's a Wraith based MT. Ok, it's not the fastest rig on the planet but it doesn't need to be. It needs to be fun, and that's what it seems to be. Don't like it don't buy it. Simples. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, chewbacca said: Hold on a minute. Is this an XO1, or a Hyper GT? 12th Scale Pan car? No. It's a Wraith based MT. Ok, it's not the fastest rig on the planet but it doesn't need to be. It needs to be fun, and that's what it seems to be. Don't like it don't buy it. Simples. I do agree, I'm just on one about the scale speed!! I was gutted back in the day when I had a 30mph 1/18 scale and I could walk faster! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady 2215 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 46 minutes ago, chewbacca said: Don't like it don't buy it. Simples. Love it. So much so mine is on order. Just wish it had a bit more speed, not the end of the world though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushboy2004 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 So who's going to be first to put a 1/8 brushless system in to one and have it doing standing backflips like a savage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evssv Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 lol..its jus a hpi wheely king imo..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 31 minutes ago, rushboy2004 said: So who's going to be first to put a 1/8 brushless system in to one and have it doing standing backflips like a savage! Those plastic transmission gears will love that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 6 hours ago, sean-vrs said: back in the day that was the con a model would say 50mph then when you tried it,it would go at walking pace, then you checked the box again and in small print it said "scale speed" you know it's not acceptable it's that slow the chap is laughing!! scale speed is just wrong (I've been a very upset child at Christmas in the past) on the plus side my x01 does 700mph ? I remember them toys. i felt very let down a few times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaz! Posted August 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2016 Lol, if if its not traxxas haters it's axial haters....... pre ordered mine, could go 11mph or 111mph, it looks fantastic and from the promo video does exactly pretty much the same thing as the real one. a little fiddling with gearing and such will soon see a increase in speed. and let us not forget, NO Rc is perfect from the box, if it was there would be no aftermarket manufacturers and hop ups. so all this arguing is kinda moot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ady 2215 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 56 minutes ago, big gaz said: Lol, if if its not traxxas haters it's axial haters....... pre ordered mine, could go 11mph or 111mph, it looks fantastic and from the promo video does exactly pretty much the same thing as the real one. a little fiddling with gearing and such will soon see a increase in speed. and let us not forget, NO Rc is perfect from the box, if it was there would be no aftermarket manufacturers and hop ups. so all this arguing is kinda moot. Mine is also on pre order. Looks amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetoR Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, big gaz said: Lol, if if its not traxxas haters it's axial haters....... pre ordered mine, could go 11mph or 111mph, it looks fantastic and from the promo video does exactly pretty much the same thing as the real one. a little fiddling with gearing and such will soon see a increase in speed. and let us not forget, NO Rc is perfect from the box, if it was there would be no aftermarket manufacturers and hop ups. so all this arguing is kinda moot. As an Axial expert, do you think it will be possible to get 20-25mph out of this, reliably? Because that is what I would be searching for. Edited August 22, 2016 by Praet0r87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz! Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, Praet0r87 said: As an Axial expert, do you think it will be possible to get 20-25mph out of this, reliably? Because that is what I would be searching for. Yes in a word, if the axles are the same internally as the bomber kit there ready for more power. i would say, new driveshafts to handle the extra power, maybe new internal gears for the gearbox too then a case of playing with gearing...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetoR Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Nice. Because as lovely as this thing looks, I couldn't buy an RC stuck at around 11mph, nor would I be prepared to throw good money after bad, trying to make a slow, reliable model, fast and unreliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Brushless combo and gears done here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Stripped gears at the end? Definitely looked better BL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I'd stay with 2S. 3S looked like a handful - and truck-wrecker!! Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetoR Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 42 minutes ago, Tug said: Stripped gears at the end? Definitely looked better BL. I would say it looks that way! 5 minutes ago, atom3624 said: I'd stay with 2S. 3S looked like a handful - and truck-wrecker!! Al. Yeah, I would be left slightly wanting, with the 5700kv 2s, but WAAAAAY overkill on 3s! Just doesn't work! Maybe try a lower KV and 3s? I know that the Sidewinder combo comes with a 4600kv motor (have one in my Pro-MT), so 4600KV 3s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) 1406 4600 is a great motor, but the 1410 3800 kV is a beast - using the 5 mm shaft latter, with a Mamba Max Pro in my MERV and it doesn't get warm - 3S and stupid gearing!! OK, it does a bit, but considering the gearing and I was testing it in grass, it was impressive. With 'sensible' gearing, I think 3S on the Max Pro / 3800 1410 would be nice - gear for 25-30 mph tops. Al. Edited August 22, 2016 by atom3624 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Could you squeeze a 3656 size can in there??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I'm guessing, but if he can get the 1406 (36 x 49 mm) in there, you might be able to get the 1410 (36 x 53 mm) in there. Perhaps not. It'd be great - never met such power from such a (relatively) small package!! Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) On 21/08/2016 at 11:20, sean-vrs said: I know you don't buy this for speed but.....if this was a traxxas offering it would get slated!! 11mph? Honestly? Is this an April fool? I get speed isn't everything especially in this sort of thing, but that must have took a hell of a lot of effort to make it that slow. They must have actually tried and gone out of their way to slow it down? Was that on 2s or 3s? Words actually fail me. If Traxxas did this the comments would be hilarious. £350+ and it does 11mph? I'm genuinely impressed they've had the balls to release this! Is that green Chassis Plastic as well? What the actual?! Edited August 23, 2016 by Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 $396 posted from Tower with coupon if you really want one. Id imagine around £50 tax/customs. Not sure if you save much over all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 A tamiya Tiger I tank all in was the best part of £800 and that won't break 8 mph ... but I still like it, for 5 minutes. It would be the same with this if I got an Axial GD. I always end up with the FG MT and have a laugh for an hour .... seems to say something! I'm trying to re-educate myself in getting a larger scale electric - X-Maxx, but I know where I'll end up! Back to Axial. Been said earlier, seems like the CC Sidewinder3 /1406 fits. I'd recommend going 1 stage higher - Mamba Max Pro / 1410 5 mm 3800 kV. I would gear it to 25-30 mph. It's more capable, but similar to the Tamiya Juggernaut, which mine tops out at 25 mph. More scale means more appreciation, but once speed is added, accidents and breakages are still guaranteed!! Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I'm gonna have to GPS my Wraith and see how fast she is on 3s with a 55t can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 12 hours ago, atom3624 said: A tamiya Tiger I tank all in was the best part of £800 and that won't break 8 mph ... but I still like it, for 5 minutes. It would be the same with this if I got an Axial GD. I always end up with the FG MT and have a laugh for an hour .... seems to say something! I'm trying to re-educate myself in getting a larger scale electric - X-Maxx, but I know where I'll end up! Back to Axial. Been said earlier, seems like the CC Sidewinder3 /1406 fits. I'd recommend going 1 stage higher - Mamba Max Pro / 1410 5 mm 3800 kV. I would gear it to 25-30 mph. It's more capable, but similar to the Tamiya Juggernaut, which mine tops out at 25 mph. More scale means more appreciation, but once speed is added, accidents and breakages are still guaranteed!! Al. Should have got the Leopard 2 if you wanted a speed machine :p. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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