Popular Post Cuiken Posted April 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2022 So I got very curious about the PTG-2 and then got a bit drunk. One thing led to another and now I have the PTG-2 builders kit type thing. First observations. 1. It's a lot better packaged up than I expected: 2. The instruction manual is better than bigger manufacturer's stuff I've been building lately. Great diagrams and lots of useful wee tips. 3. I started building the diffs and have to say that, in terms of slack (need for shimming) they certainly seem better than those in my Arrma. They've gone together really easily and run incredibly smoothly with hee-haw play. 4. The shocks are fantastic. Soooooooo much better than those on my XV-01. Really smooth and came with a choice of three spring weights (full set of four of each spring). Only issue I'm having is finding a body for it. I was really excited about doing a Porsche 911 RSR one (from the TT02 kit) but found it's only a 251mm wheelbase. The shortest I can make the PTG-2 is 257mm. Bit gutted about that. I might end up just doing a Lancia (like my XV-01). 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Freddy Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Never even heard of these but googled it and it does look good. Looking forward to seeing it finished and tested. Guessing you already saw this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCake Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 I am not sure if that Lancia body has been updated. It is the one I have but that spoiler basically explodes the first time you roll it which is a real shame. I have now seen this https://www.makeitbuildit.co.uk/killerbody-lancia-delta-hf-integrale-16v-finished-body-rally-24484 which looks to be slightly different and ditches the roof spoiler and has 2 x vents on the roof. Might be a better option but then weirdly the mirrors are updates as well and they look ripe to snap off compared to the ones on the original. This is another body which should fit perfectly https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/killerbody-body-alfa-romeo-2000-gtam-red-all-in-ready-to-use-390156 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Freddy Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Mmmm, that Alpha looks good. I really love/hate choosing bodies. Spend aaages being indecisive…… then smash it to bits after 2 runs. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCake Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 While definitely not a Porsche, here is another road car option https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/killerbody-body-toyota-gt86-195mm-orange-403651 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuiken Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 I was thinking something from the golden age of rally. Fiat 131 looks good. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Walter_Röhrls_Fiat_131_Abarth_(Sponsor_Alitalia)_aus_1978-1979.jpg Pretty sure landl have a shell. Just not sure if it would fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douge one Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cuiken said: I was thinking something from the golden age of rally. Fiat 131 looks good. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Walter_Röhrls_Fiat_131_Abarth_(Sponsor_Alitalia)_aus_1978-1979.jpg Pretty sure landl have a shell. Just not sure if it would fit. They do have it https://landlmodels.co.uk/products/fiat-131-rally-body-wrc-painted-with-decals 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorrylemming Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 I've got one of those Alfa GTAM bodies, apart from the sides mirror it's pretty durable, I think the rounded shape helps a lot. Like most of these you can fit lights to the front and rear plastic mouldings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCake Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 minute ago, lorrylemming said: I've got one of those Alfa GTAM bodies, apart from the sides mirror it's pretty durable, I think the rounded shape helps a lot. Like most of these you can fit lights to the front and rear plastic mouldings. Got any photos of how that looks on the PTG-2. Tempted to get one myself and have a couple of bodies for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuiken Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 Just in case anyone likes pics of differentials (I mean, who doesn't?). You can maybe get an idea of the quality of the castings from these. I think they are pretty good. Meanwhile, still figuring out body options. This quite appeals: https://www.makeitbuildit.co.uk/killerbody-alfa-romeo-75-turbo-evoluzione-finished-body-raci-24482 Although, weirdly, I've come to quite enjoy painting the the shells myself. At this price though it's a bargain (when you factor in clear shell plus paint...). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuiken Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) Ohh, wait, as if by magic: https://www.makeitbuildit.co.uk/killerbody-alfa-romeo-75-turbo-evoluzione-190mm-clear-body-24394?gclid=Cj0KCQjwl7qSBhD-ARIsACvV1X0VVIKqFhqEXjjCT0J5E20cAaGa0D6aq-ut08sI8XT43MyLEJufekgaAlUgEALw_wcB Edited April 7, 2022 by Cuiken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuiken Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 Couldn't resist starting the next bag. Ohh yeah, which reminds me. Not wishing to bash Tamiya (we all love Tamiya) but there is something slightly haphazard about the way they bag up their kits. Here, every labeled bag contains all the parts (bolts etc) for that section of the build. You don't have to jump back and forth between bags. Small thing but nice if you're building the kit in stages. Anyway, assembled a drive pinion. Tiny job but delighted to find all metal parts, oversized bearing on the pinion itself and rubber shielded bearings throughout. These would typically be 'hop-ups' on other kits. The size of the bearing on the pinion for example is larger than that on my Losi Baja. Hopefully this all helps with durability. The diameter of the pinion gear itself is 18mm. This is huge for a 1/10th scale rally car. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorrylemming Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 4 hours ago, MrCake said: Got any photos of how that looks on the PTG-2. Tempted to get one myself and have a couple of bodies for it. Sorry no, I had it on a Schumacher Mi1 touring car. It looked right with a slightly higher ride height, higher than the usual 5mm or so for racing touring cars. I can't work out what parts these share with the LC racing 1/10th buggy line, but they do look offroad sized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorrylemming Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 This channel is all rally cross. They have some videos of the PTG-2 but its hard to tell which car it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cuiken Posted April 7, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2022 Bit more built. Got the front suspension, diff etc all assembled into the bulkhead: Couple of observations: 1. The suspension is great. Went together really easily and no play at all . 11mm bearings on the wheel side of the hubs. It all adds to durability. 2. I added one shim behind the drive cup to prevent the pinion being pushed into the crown gear. 0.25mm did the trick. Arrow marks the spot: 3. The mesh between the crown and pinion is tight. No shim behind the pinion and it is just a touch rough. I'm sure it'll bed in but this is the only thing so far that has not been silky smooth. 4. More nice stuff. CVDs, decent aluminium hexes with grub screws to hold them in place. The tie rod ends came pre threaded! No battling to get a thread started on the tied rods. Proper reverse thread on one end too so easy adjustment. The plastics all have a really good quality feel to them. LC are really trying to set this up as a premium kit. 5. One weird feature. No washers. Like anywhere. Like a 70's lotus F1 car. 'No washer is getting a free ide on my car'...... Onto to the back tomorrow. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cuiken Posted April 18, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) Okay, been a bit lax on updating here but actually managed to finish it off. Wee feast of pictures: Then got fancy and added the (not included) carbon mudguard braces and slightly bodged on rear bumper and sway bars. The bumper mount also serves as a sway bar mount so I figured I'd attempt to have both. Took a bit of modding with a dremmel but fits quite well now. Next I needed to find a shell. Initially I went for a pre-order of a finished Killerbody Alfa 75 (looks awesome) but then there seemed to be stock issues. So, cancelled that order and instead found a guy on Facebook running a custom shell painting business called Craggy Design. Great guy BTW, very responsive and easy to deal with. His designs are (IMO) superb) https://www.facebook.com/craggydesign/ He had a pre-finished Phat Bodies V-Rally shell for sale at a good price so I jumped on that. Here it is test fitted (after drilling body mounts and cutting out wheel arches). BTW, that's all paint. Not a single sticker! I then went to town with warmed up gorilla tape to line the shell, mounted the rear spoiler and added set of slightly wider wheels. Finished result! I'm really chuffed with how it turned out. The look is spot on and I managed a decent job of cutting out the wheel arches etc (compass cutter BTW, brilliant tool). Overall, the kit was a joy to assemble. All parts were nicely made and slotted together without hassle. The instructions were broadly accurate with just a couple of inconsistencies with screw length here and there. As I've said before. the car comes pre-hopped-up with sealed bearings and carbon fibre/aluminium /steel all over it. The only additions I made were the rear bumper (front one with a bit of dremmel bodging, just £4.99 BTW!), sway bars and mudguard braces (weird that they are not included in the kit but very cheap to add). I'd say the bumper and braces are worth having, the sway bars may be a bit unnecessary. How does it drive? Well I've only had one quick outing to a local car park but I was blown away by the way it handles. The steering is sharp and fast. It slides and drifts beautifully (better than any other car I have) without snapping into a spin. Suspension is nicely damped so it moves along really smoothly too. The MAX10 combo seems to have worked perfectly. No cogging at all and very smooth power delivery. Top speed is just where I'd want it with a 20T pinion and, despite being enclosed in the dust shell, neither the motor or ESC got hot on a 10 minute blast. As much as I love my XV-01 rally car, I'd have to say the PTG-2 is in a different league. Additionally, I don't mean to pre-judge the forthcoming XV-02 but I really don't see how it can better this car. Let's wait and see 🙂 Edited April 18, 2022 by Cuiken 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shergar Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 That’s a beautiful build there 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuiken Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shergar said: That’s a beautiful build there 👍 Thanks. It was also a really easy build 🙂 Parts availability will be the make/break for this car but the kit and design are superb. Nice to finally have an alternative to the Tamiya XV-0x for 1/10th rallying too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Brilliant build mate and the body is stunning 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuiken Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, .AJ. said: Brilliant build mate and the body is stunning 👌 Thanks. Only wish I could take credit for the body. All credit to Craggy Design on that one. Well worth a look at his FB page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCake Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 That looks great and I totally agree that the handling of these is fantastic. I do wish there were more UK sellers and stock for LC Racing as they really are quality items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuiken Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 Although there aren't many sellers, the two that do exist seem pretty good: https://www.rccarshop.co.uk/ https://www.dms-racing.com/ The service I've had from DMS (from whom I bought the car and all parts) has been superb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stimpy Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Looks to be a real quality build that. And that body.... I don't appreciate the shape, but the paint job is just insane!!.. Enjoy 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Did you notice anything off about the rear diff instructions? The spur gear assembly on the top of page 18 looks like the bearing should go on the side that calls for a spacer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggy8 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 awesome build! one thing i did notice is the motor, with all the other lc racing cars i have had, never had/seen that motor. looks really good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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