martin34 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I don't care what it is as I have just ordered a v4 Typhon to truggyfie 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Why not just buy the Talion? What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tug said: Why not just buy the Talion? What am I missing? maybe shorter chassis = better? it will be more like an outcast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin34 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I have always wanted a truggyfied buggy since seeing them on an xxx main DVD many moons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 hours ago, martin34 said: I don't care what it is as I have just ordered a v4 Typhon to truggyfie 😎 why not just but a notorious isn’t that the same thing as what your planning ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 An interesting question that i'm asking myself, in case it's going to be an upscaled Kraton (1/5 or 1/6) running the new Spektrum SMART stuff (or some other rebranded Max6) on 8s... Would i take that over an X-Maxx? I love the Kraton, but i'm not sure that i'd take what i'd consider "a worse Kraton" (slower, less "stunty", probably not as tough either) over an X-Maxx. Slight predicament here. Bit of a brain/heart miscommunication, so to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin34 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 9 hours ago, mydoddy69 said: why not just but a notorious isn’t that the same thing as what your planning ? No I will leave the buggy arms on but use kraton hubs and hexes so it won't be as wide as an outcast but wider than a stock Typhon.The same with the wheels and tyres.Taller and wider than the Typhon bus smaller than the outcast but most importantly I think the look the business when truggyfied 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddyroo Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 And that's the joy of this hobby, you can do what you want and spend as much or as little as you want in the process 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, m4inbrain said: An interesting question that i'm asking myself, in case it's going to be an upscaled Kraton (1/5 or 1/6) running the new Spektrum SMART stuff (or some other rebranded Max6) on 8s... Would i take that over an X-Maxx? I love the Kraton, but i'm not sure that i'd take what i'd consider "a worse Kraton" (slower, less "stunty", probably not as tough either) over an X-Maxx. Slight predicament here. Bit of a brain/heart miscommunication, so to say. If they've upscaled again (Mojave I can forgive as it seems solid so far), then I doubt I'll be interested. To compete with the X-Maxx, they'll have to move away from flat chassis and get clever with plastics. For a large car that's still lightweight, a mostly plastic design is going to work best. The drive-train must be bigger too, it can't be let down by undersized diffs etc. But what do I know, I drive them, don't design them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Tug said: If they've upscaled again (Mojave I can forgive as it seems solid so far), then I doubt I'll be interested. To compete with the X-Maxx, they'll have to move away from flat chassis and get clever with plastics. For a large car that's still lightweight, a mostly plastic design is going to work best. The drive-train must be bigger too, it can't be let down by undersized diffs etc. But what do I know, I drive them, don't design them. Yep agreed but sadly there recent 4s range with plastic chassis isn’t quite upto the job, so if they do go down the plastic chassis route and use that same compound I can see lots of really angry buyers especially if it’s close to x maxx money My fear is they do a similar thing they did on the First nero’s, release a batch not quite up to the job then 6 months later release a new version with those issues sorted and screw over the first release buyers with issuing the same faulty parts and not the new and improved ones and warranty claims Arrma do tend to have first release problems okay they do correct them but that’s no good if you just spend £900 on a truck for the next generation to come out 6 months down the line and your faced with buying new or buying upgrades that should have been there from the start look at the uproar Traxxas got for it on the X Maxx ! Whatever is coming I’d wait a while before buying any new release Arrma 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Certainly gonna wait for reviews and a session by Duperbash before i make my mind up. Duperbash will definitely break it whatever it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Duper tends to do too many mods, Kevin Talbot tries to run stock, so if he gets one I'll be watching him. All this, and we still don't even know what it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Duper runs all his RCs stock first, and then goes on advertising M2C parts. At least he did with both Kraton and Typhon. Can't stand Kevin Talbot, so that has to suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I have a very good idea what this is in fact I’ll put money on it if anyone wants to take the bet 🤣 I was unsure of getting one still am but think I will That’s all your gonna get for now 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 X-Maxx or your very good idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Your gonna have to make your own mind up on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Already did i think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Actually haven't lol, still a tossup between what's Arrma releasing (and i "know" now too), the X-Maxx and DBXL-E 2.0. I'll make it dependant on the electrics they're gonna put in the new one, and the price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Horizon need to address the radio gear, the lag is giving them a lot of bad press. Other than that, I'd lean more towards anything Arrma over Traxxas, and that's based purely on the models, not the company ethics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) If that new RC comes with an STX2, they can keep it. And screw em too. I doubt it though, the backlash was/is so massive, i don't think they'd dare to use that garbage on something new. DX2e Active is my guess. In regards to leaning, i lean towards the truck that offers me the best value (i'm not made of money). The X-Maxx has problems with the ESC - Arrma hasn't actually made a 1/5th yet, so god knows what might go wrong in that one that needs fixing. With the X-Maxx, you know what's gonna break. I will say, if it comes with the new Spektrum SMART stuff, or a Max6, i'll be tempted. Arrma doesn't have a great track record with their V1s either btw, the Mojave was the first "new" truck that didn't have major problems. And that's because there's nothing really new on it (Kraton electrics), same goes for the Outcast etc. They also don't seem to have learned in four iterations of their Kraton that it bends. So while i usually agree that i prefer Arrma over Traxxas trucks, "purely based on the models" is kinda impossible. First we don't have whatever you want to compare the X-Maxx to, and second, it's a V1 where everything is new (hopefully) - and Arrma isn't better than Traxxas in that regard. Just that they usually fix the problems in a new version, whereas Traxxas (apart from the X-Maxx) doesn't. Which isn't great considering that it'll be X-Maxx money, just to watch a "V2" release in a year. edit: also, i'll deduct points if it comes on a flat chassis again. Which is most likely if it indeed is a Kraton XL. Edited November 5, 2019 by m4inbrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Please don’t swear on the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Fair enough. Screw em. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 There's nothing wrong with a flat chassis if it's made out of the right material and has the right support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mond said: There's nothing wrong with a flat chassis if it's made out of the right material and has the right support. More importantly, the right price. Problem here being of course that Arrma doesn't have a great track record with either (support/material and/or too narrow of a design) Edited November 5, 2019 by m4inbrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Most bent chassis I've seen on any brand of truck are usually caused by sending it or taking it to a skatepark and sending it. Sending anything beyond its limits will damage it. Skateparks always end in tears. Not all plastic chassis solve this, look at the grey chassis E-Maxx trucks, plenty of those snapped clean in half. The 3 and 4S Arrma offerings can be easily snapped in half. Basically, I'd sooner risk a V1 Arrma than a V1 Traxxas. Oh, and because of the above, I don't send anything higher than it can handle and never go to skateparks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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