Carpmart Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 6 hours ago, Matt1986 said: Oh and I have got a wicked little soldering clamp or jig , around £10 ... Are you right handed? Holding the iron in your right hand? The melt on the XT60 and the side you've put the wire in the jig above, suggests that you could be setting up your soldering the wrong way around based on your dominant hand? Just a thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) Yes I am right handed and that is just a picture from google pictures , but surely does it matter which way you hold the wire in clamp as can be held either way to tin it ... Useful can hold wire in clamp heat up with right hand holding iron and left to feed solder in . That's the way always done it and feels best for me ... None of joints are dry and nice and strong . I would not solder with wire in clamp this way as the other pins are in the way , what you are soldering hanging other way in the clamp Edited December 30, 2015 by Matt1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmart Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 1 hour ago, Matt1986 said: Yes I am right handed and that is just a picture from google pictures , but surely does it matter which way you hold the wire in clamp as can be held either way to tin it ... Useful can hold wire in clamp heat up with right hand holding iron and left to feed solder in . That's the way always done it and feels best for me ... None of joints are dry and nice and strong . I would not solder with wire in clamp this way as the other pins are in the way , what you are soldering hanging other way in the clamp LOL! Just pointing something out regarding setting soldering work up the 'right' way round? Trying to assist! I didn't realise that you were so experienced, especially as you melted the XT60! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I know you was Matt , I wouldn't go that far being a pro or a good solderer as not done much in a few years , never done connections just wires in past ... I wouldn't go far as melted looking at picture it's just lightly touched the iron ... May have to replace that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I've started using Castle 6mm bullets. Dead easy to solder, easy to connect and disconnect without putting pressure on the soldering. The only con is the cost. I tried a Chinese copy and they don't fit as well and one of them broke when I tried to spread the teeth out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 1 hour ago, mond said: I've started using Castle 6mm bullets. Dead easy to solder, easy to connect and disconnect without putting pressure on the soldering. The only con is the cost. I tried a Chinese copy and they don't fit as well and one of them broke when I tried to spread the teeth out. Had that several times with cheap 5.5mm bullets, definitely worth paying the extra for quality items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) What about if we consider what amps we are running ? My esc is 120a and my batteries are 2 cell lipo 5.0 mah 30c so makes them 150a so am I guessing xt60's are too small ? Upgrade to a xt90 perhaps ? Edited December 30, 2015 by Matt1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMaxxDave Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Id say that is ESC and motor isnt going to draw more than 120a. Id stick with xt-60. Im still running deans with my xerun 150a and 5000mAh 30c batteries and havent had any problems. Im looking at changing to xt-60s as i think they look better Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 3 minutes ago, TMaxxDave said: Id say that is ESC and motor isnt going to draw more than 120a. Id stick with xt-60. Im still running deans with my xerun 150a and 5000mAh 30c batteries and havent had any problems. Im looking at changing to xt-60s as i think they look better Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk The only slight issue I have found with the xt60 is my esc cables are 12awg and once tinned lightly did not want to fit into the rear of the pins , had to solder onto the opening ... This is why I thought a xt90 would be better ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMaxxDave Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Ahhhh ok, i see now. Ive not seen xt-90 connectors. But ill google nowm Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I have not driven the car my xt60's are on just programmed the esc and set servo trim up ... May swap over I'm thinking , be happier if cable was inside the pin a bit more ... May pop Upto my modelshop after work and pick a pair up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 1 hour ago, Matt1986 said: What about if we consider what amps we are running ? My esc is 120a and my batteries are 2 cell lipo 5.0 mah 30c so makes them 150a so am I guessing xt60's are too small ? Upgrade to a xt90 perhaps ? It doesn't work that way. Your motor, gearing and voltage dictate current draw. 30C cells aren't pumping out 150 Amps, it just means there's 150 Amps available should you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) Deans : can be a right pain in the rear to solder, IF your doing it wrong ( i like to sand off the rubbish coating then tin the metal tabbings) you MUST also use a JIG , if not you must use a second deans this helps keep the pins all lined up and acts as a mini heat sink so you DONT MELT THE PLASTIC. these are a good choice of connector and can take a good amount of current but they can just be a pain to solder. XT60 - 90 , the XT comes in two versions a smallish deans like XT60 and a larger version called the XT90 its more for heavy gauge wires like your 6s batterys or your 300amp esc with monster jumplead like wires. BUT they are great for those that cannot solder to well, plug a male and female together , grab some pliers and a rubber band. grip the XT connectors with the pliers and use rubber band to keep the handle under tension gripping it all together. heat up your solder iron and tin your wire, now pop the tip of iron onto the top of the connector and drip flow solder into it (dont fill it right ) keep iron on and slide your wire into the molten solder, do the same on other and your done. very very easy to do. Both are popular connectors, i know hobbyking sells both deans and xt connectors on batterys to as well as traxxas style and others. deans and the XT connectors are a more universal rc connector everyone has one or has used one in the hobby. Bullets are geart but mistakes can be made, they tend to be more used on the brushless motor wires from an esc and on brushless motors, very rare they are used loose on batterys, to much of a risk from mistaken polarity and a fried system - not so healthy lipo. they question is this, what is more easy to unplug with cold hands, and in my heart the XT connectors beat the deans hands down when push comes to shove, but for pure safe of mind thought the deans is known to be a winner but a pain to solder and a pain to get apart in cold weather Edited December 30, 2015 by Tamiyacowboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 58 minutes ago, Matt1986 said: I have not driven the car my xt60's are on just programmed the esc and set servo trim up ... May swap over I'm thinking , be happier if cable was inside the pin a bit more ... May pop Upto my modelshop after work and pick a pair up just fire up the car those xt 60's will be fine, if you think they are a little on the small side and the wire is not snug inside the connector go a size up to the xt90. deans and xt are both good connectors so have faith and run that darn thing for us lol !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I would run it but no wheels ! Lol some scouser has taken them lol ... No offence to anyone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) If you are running hardpack saddles then just use 4mm male bullets and go direct into the packs Edited December 30, 2015 by .AJ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I could do with some battery connection pins that are at a 90 angle as the straight ones toutch the underside of the body , battery is a hard case saddle pack ... Where can I get these type of connections from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Here you go http://www.rccarshop.co.uk/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_product_id=13360&virtuemart_category_id=7232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Standard 4mm bullets for the interpack lead and trim down with a dremmel to make a flatter connector for the main connectors. Quick and simple way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Which bit trim down ? The end that pushes in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 No, the end where you solder to. Trim some material from the top edge and make a small slot in the side, big enough to take your cable, then solder up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 thanks , that's a great idea ... Look il have to invest in a dremel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1986 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Re soldered xt60's but had less wire showing and fits so much better . Just practice end of day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch101 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) I've always used 5.5 (I think) castle bullets from the start but recently got wound up more and more at the wire moving separately looking a mess in my eyes so just converted all my stuff too these hobby king HXT 4mm they come in big pack at Good value Just one plug for switching batteries around now and charging them. The only hiccup I had was putting them on the wirring going too my 150 a hobby wing esc but the battery leads go on easy enough Edit note ! Just remember too put the plastic part on BEFORE the bullets haha Edited December 31, 2015 by fletch101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khevolution Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Have been running deans plugs for a while now, but must admit that they are not the greatest to solder a wire on, not heard of the XT60's until now, might buy some and give them a go before my RC Fleet grows any larger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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