Traxxas TRX4M 1:18 version coming soon

32 minutes ago, 53HRA said:

I thought that too but the green looks lovely as well!  

Green or grey for me. 

I want a Bronco for a change, but my Mrs (who owns a real Defender) called me something derogatory when I said that. Ive heard these might be first delivery program too, so online order may not be till Xmas. Good for local stores I guess though

Defo getting one of these. Been hoping Traxxas would get into this market for a while now. 

Looks good, but UK price is too much.!! Predict it will still sell like crazy though.

USA to UK price conversion makes no sense to me, like someone said just look at the Drag Slash. (extremely overpriced)

Anyone know if Amain will ship them to the UK.??  

4 minutes ago, BashingBrian said:

Looks good, but UK price is too much.!! Predict it will still sell like crazy though.

USA to UK price conversion makes no sense to me, like someone said just look at the Drag Slash. (extremely overpriced)

Anyone know if Amain will ship them to the UK.??  

A Main cant ship Traxxas models, dont think anyone can. For the sake of £40-50 saving its not worth it anyway. 
 

I dont think its priced badly for the UK, especially not compared to the Drag Slash. 
 

Id have just preffered it to be £300+ but be a true scaled down TRX4, with lockable diffs, 2 Speed etc

Edited September 14, 2022 by Kpowell911

If it had been £150 I would have ordered one the minute they went live, but £180 is just too much for a small toy 🤣

It's not. 

 

The problem here is that people are under the delusion that the pound is still worth a lot - it's not. $150 is £130. Those £130 don't factor in tax, duty or shipping - all of which Traxxas still pays when selling an RC over here. £180 includes £36 in VAT alone, so without VAT, the truck is £144 - and that still doesn't include transport to the UK that Traxxas has to pay for, nor the duty due to the crooks government. 

 

In actuality, the truck is indeed priced 1-1 USD to GBP - it's $150 subject to sales taxes where applicable. 

 

In other news.. 

 

 

$30 buys you a trailer lol. I wish they did this for the 1/10s, would've saved me a lot of hassle. 

Looking forward to seeing reviews!  Did spot in the specs that the Defender and Bronco have different departure angles etc with the Bronco potentially being slightly better but might not mean much in the real world.

 

I really like these but might have told someone "dont worry, there will be no more RCs" 🤣

8 hours ago, m4inbrain said:

It's not. 

 

The problem here is that people are under the delusion that the pound is still worth a lot - it's not. $150 is £130. Those £130 don't factor in tax, duty or shipping - all of which Traxxas still pays when selling an RC over here. £180 includes £36 in VAT alone, so without VAT, the truck is £144 - and that still doesn't include transport to the UK that Traxxas has to pay for, nor the duty due to the crooks government. 

 

In actuality, the truck is indeed priced 1-1 USD to GBP - it's $150 subject to sales taxes where applicable. 

 

In other news.. 

 

 

$30 buys you a trailer lol. I wish they did this for the 1/10s, would've saved me a lot of hassle. 

I need a trailer for my 10th Scale to tow my 1:18th!

1 hour ago, MrCake said:

I really like these but might have told someone "dont worry, there will be no more RCs" 🤣

 

Well, one could argue that this is a toy, not "an RC". 

 

They also don't take up much space. 😄

 

My wife actually told me to get two, she does enjoy crawling too. Even ordered spares for my TRX4 now because i wanted to wait a bit - now i got a Vitavon transmission housing, full bearing kit and stub axles coming lol. 

Edited September 15, 2022 by m4inbrain

12 hours ago, BashingBrian said:

If it had been £150 I would have ordered one the minute they went live, but £180 is just too much for a small toy 🤣

Think about it this way...you are still getting a bargain compared with a Capo Cub.

10 hours ago, m4inbrain said:

It's not. 

 

The problem here is that people are under the delusion that the pound is still worth a lot - it's not. $150 is £130. Those £130 don't factor in tax, duty or shipping - all of which Traxxas still pays when selling an RC over here. £180 includes £36 in VAT alone, so without VAT, the truck is £144 - and that still doesn't include transport to the UK that Traxxas has to pay for, nor the duty due to the crooks government. 

 

In actuality, the truck is indeed priced 1-1 USD to GBP - it's $150 subject to sales taxes where applicable. 

 

In other news.. 

 

 

$30 buys you a trailer lol. I wish they did this for the 1/10s, would've saved me a lot of hassle. 

That is correct what you say about the price breakdown but when you sell a product in another country you have to try to compete with other products on sale there.  This means that you might choose to reduce your profit margin to make the selling price more competitive.  I bet there is a lot of profit already built in to the US selling price.  However, since the competitors in UK are also imported products there is unfortunately little incentive for Traxxas to reduce the price in UK at the moment.  For example, looking at this new product compared with the RC4WD 1:18 scale crawlers, the Traxxas has a price advantage already.  Similarly, even when compared with offerings from FMS / ROC Hobby, the UK price is competitive.

2 hours ago, m4inbrain said:

 

Well, one could argue that this is a toy, not "an RC". 

 

They also don't take up much space. 😄

 

My wife actually told me to get two, she does enjoy crawling too. Even ordered spares for my TRX4 now because i wanted to wait a bit - now i got a Vitavon transmission housing, full bearing kit and stub axles coming lol. 

I wonder about getting the grey defender to match my TRX4 and just tell her the TRX4-M is just further away rather than smaller than she remembered 

1 hour ago, BlackSeaRC said:

That is correct what you say about the price breakdown but when you sell a product in another country you have to try to compete with other products on sale there.  This means that you might choose to reduce your profit margin to make the selling price more competitive.  I bet there is a lot of profit already built in to the US selling price.  However, since the competitors in UK are also imported products there is unfortunately little incentive for Traxxas to reduce the price in UK at the moment.  For example, looking at this new product compared with the RC4WD 1:18 scale crawlers, the Traxxas has a price advantage already.  Similarly, even when compared with offerings from FMS / ROC Hobby, the UK price is competitive.

Its Traxxas. I dont think they look at other peoples peices, they just stick their (usually over priced) price on it and thats it. Seems to work for them financially 

1 hour ago, BlackSeaRC said:

That is correct what you say about the price breakdown but when you sell a product in another country you have to try to compete with other products on sale there.  This means that you might choose to reduce your profit margin to make the selling price more competitive.  I bet there is a lot of profit already built in to the US selling price.  However, since the competitors in UK are also imported products there is unfortunately little incentive for Traxxas to reduce the price in UK at the moment.  For example, looking at this new product compared with the RC4WD 1:18 scale crawlers, the Traxxas has a price advantage already.  Similarly, even when compared with offerings from FMS / ROC Hobby, the UK price is competitive.

 

Why would they anyway? They're already, as you said, competitive in price since every RC is imported and has the same fees added. Which by definition makes them "not overpriced", they make them priced to the market. 

 

This is what a micro crawler costs over here. I'm not defending Traxxas, i think they're an awful company, and at any opportunity that i get i point out the price of the Drag Slash as well as the Maxx - but equally, i point out when someone's just whinging about a price that is in actuality pretty good. 

Not wishing to be a pedant, but bashingbrian mentioned once that he thought the price was too much.  That is hardly whinging, or at least not based on my understanding of the word.  It was his opinion, which he stated once, just as your opinion is that its isn't too expensive (for what it is in the UK market), which I tend to agree with on this occasion.

 

Let's not get into a habit of accusing people of whinging / moaning when in fact they are just stating an opinion, which is something we should all be encouraged  to do and is surely the whole point of a hobby forum such as this?

1 hour ago, bertberr said:

Not wishing to be a pedant, but bashingbrian mentioned once that he thought the price was too much

 

Okay, maybe it's my english failing me here. Where in "£180 for a toy is too much" or "UK price is too much!!!!" is the reference to himself?

 

I don't mind being pedantic, i'm german after all and that's what we're genetically programmed to be, but if you're being pedantic and then say that BB said "once" that "he thought the price was too much", it's a bit.. confusing. I'm quite obviously referencing the posting right above mine that you referenced. Equally, his first statement was simply "UK price is too much!!!", then pointing at the fact that the conversion $ to £ doesn't make sense to him. Directly stating that the truck is generally overpriced/a rip-off. 

 

Look. I'll row back and say that i didn't think that "whinging" has as negative a connotation as it appears to have, so i'll say "complain" instead. This isn't an accusation, it's just a statement of fact - and it's not an offensive one, we all do it, i personally do it a lot. Basically in every thread that mentions anything in regards to price when i bring up the Drag Slash or Maxx, which i, again, do a lot. And while i agree that absolutely everyone should state their opinions, asking to hold back comments on it even if it's "off"..?  If someone is of the opinion that masks don't work (as happened in this forum too), i'll certainly attempt to explain why that opinion is wrong. Which is what happens in a forum, people say things, and sometimes they clash. The adult part is to not take it personally. Over the years i've had plenty of.. interactions with Guns, so? That's what happens. It's not a 2022 college campus safe space, and i certainly wouldn't want it to be one. I can get behind "not swearing", but holding back with my opinion isn't going to happen. Guns (i constantly forget his new username, sorry) and i get along decent enough for random internet strangers. I argued a lot with Daniel too (OHO), i still do via facebook friendslist. 

 

Your post, to me, would only make sense if i actually attacked BBs character or similar. I didn't. I said the whinge wasn't justified since it's priced well, as opposed to the opinion that it's overpriced. Which is a opinion/conclusion that's based purely on Traxxas' past pricing (again, Maxx and Drag Slash, where it is absolutely justified to whinge). I do take the point of "whinging" being an apparently much stronger word than i thought, so i'll say "complain" from now on instead - but the gist is the same. The opinion that the truck is overpriced, when it objectively isn't, is simply false. And yes, before it's brought up, i do think there's "wrong" opinions, of course. If you think that the rig costs more than you're willing to pay for it, then that's cool. That's not what "overpriced" means, though. 

 

In the end, i'm pretty certain BB isn't going to lose sleep over it, otherwise i wouldn't have said anything. 

 

At the risk of being shot down in flames (dont care) i feel this model is priced at the very top end, its £90 more expensive than the FTX 1/18th Texan.........it may be worth it in terms of quality, that remains to be seen and as both the trax and FTX are made in China and shipped over they both have the same issues like vat and postage plus dollar to Sterling to compete with.

 

Well me and my lad will definitely be having one of these each, hard decision will be the colour choice lol.

 

I think the price is quite good too, the roc hobby katana was on Modelsport at £159

 

 

7 hours ago, Jack Reacher said:

At the risk of being shot down in flames (dont care) i feel this model is priced at the very top end, its £90 more expensive than the FTX 1/18th Texan.........it may be worth it in terms of quality, that remains to be seen and as both the trax and FTX are made in China and shipped over they both have the same issues like vat and postage plus dollar to Sterling to compete with.

 

Not disagreeing on the whole, but the Traxxas has a licensed Body from both Ford and Land Rover. The FTX doesnt from what I can see. That factors into price MASSIVELY 

1 hour ago, Kpowell911 said:

Not disagreeing on the whole, but the Traxxas has a licensed Body from both Ford and Land Rover. The FTX doesnt from what I can see. That factors into price MASSIVELY 

Does it?  I suppose it rather depends upon whether the existing license they already had for the TRX-4 can be used again with this new product.  Anyway, I have no idea what the licensing agreement says.  Maybe it is a one off payment, maybe it is a payment per units sold.  If you compare the TRX-4M with the licensed Kyosho Mini-Z 4x4 products, the Traxxas price is reasonable.

Can anyone remember what the Losi Mini rock crawler went for new? Sure it wasn't too far off this for a very similar package.

 

(That's definitely one RC I regret getting rid of)

Weird observation but I just noticed a Latrax teton is only £10 less than one of these, forgot how wildy over priced they are.

😂 nothing changes much ? Traxxas release a new model it causes a row 👍

An obscene amount of Traxxas Upgrades here

 

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