Paul Busby Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 50 minutes ago, BashingBrian said: Where do you think the HW stuff comes from..?? 🤔🤣 They all come from China... of course... but the QC for Surpass and the QC for Hobbywing is for sure, two different leagues. I recomend people buy Surpass al the the time, as they're so damn cheap, and the performance is overall very close to hobbywing, but there is for sure a difference in QC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Paul Busby said: This guy.... When you get a guy who comes from a background of engineering sports bikes who puts his energy into RC... you get this. Outrageous! Have to say all my Scorched parts... parts... have been incredible. Nice bit of engineering but like the man says designed for more so for on road not off road bashers like the kraton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Busby Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Only difference is you can’t run a cage. if your running an unbreakable shell then they’re pointless anyway. i haven’t run a cage for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Sooo, one last blast. Still waiting on the a arm, and need to find the slightly bent drive shaft, but popped to Wheelspin today. Click and Collected this: I, in a stupour just left the EXB to rot. It was filthy, so gave it a little clean up. Nothing major, cause ill need to do the arms when they arrive: Should slow it down a bit: Also, had to obtain a second receiver as id robbed it for the X Maxx. looks anemic now haha Ive bound the RX and calibrated the ESC, but not gone any further than that. Geared it with a 13t pinion. Only thing is, I, in a mood sold my brand new set of wheels and tyres. So if all goes well, Im gonna need some more 😂😩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant.p Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Hi guys. Just before I bite the bullet, can I get some input to help me make a final decision. I’m heavily leaning one way at the moment, but that’s based purely on what I’ve read/seen on YouTube. Would be good to get some feedback from actual owners... so I’m torn between the notorious and Kraton. I’m not looking at a roller, so not worried so much about the setup (initially). More the chassis. I most enjoy jumping and flips etc, but that’s not all I do. I’m concerned the notorious will be a one trick pony and be pants at general driving with the short wheelbase. sorry if this is in the wrong thread, I’ve not managed to find anything more suitable. I’m thinking most here will be biased towards the kraton, but hopeful that some of you may have had a bash with both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Busby Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Ant.p said: Hi guys. Just before I bite the bullet, can I get some input to help me make a final decision. I’m heavily leaning one way at the moment, but that’s based purely on what I’ve read/seen on YouTube. Would be good to get some feedback from actual owners... so I’m torn between the notorious and Kraton. I’m not looking at a roller, so not worried so much about the setup (initially). More the chassis. I most enjoy jumping and flips etc, but that’s not all I do. I’m concerned the notorious will be a one trick pony and be pants at general driving with the short wheelbase. sorry if this is in the wrong thread, I’ve not managed to find anything more suitable. I’m thinking most here will be biased towards the kraton, but hopeful that some of you may have had a bash with both. The notorious won't be pants at general driving, that said, the Kraton does pretty much anything the Notorious can, and is a bit more stable . A kraton is unlikely to do a triple backflip with ease, and a Notorious is unlikely to get around a corner without letting off the throttle.... but neither will disappoint in either aspect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorys Breaker Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 On 23/04/2021 at 07:32, Ant.p said: Hi guys. Just before I bite the bullet, can I get some input to help me make a final decision. I’m heavily leaning one way at the moment, but that’s based purely on what I’ve read/seen on YouTube. Would be good to get some feedback from actual owners... so I’m torn between the notorious and Kraton. I’m not looking at a roller, so not worried so much about the setup (initially). More the chassis. I most enjoy jumping and flips etc, but that’s not all I do. I’m concerned the notorious will be a one trick pony and be pants at general driving with the short wheelbase. sorry if this is in the wrong thread, I’ve not managed to find anything more suitable. I’m thinking most here will be biased towards the kraton, but hopeful that some of you may have had a bash with both. I’ve got both and have to say I enjoy my Noto more. Think it’s more the aggressive look of it though. Both are awesome trucks and you can’t really go wrong 👍🏻 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant.p Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, Rorys Breaker said: I’ve got both and have to say I enjoy my Noto more. Think it’s more the aggressive look of it though. Both are awesome trucks and you can’t really go wrong 👍🏻 I went for the notorious. Picked it up yesterday 😍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant.p Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Have to say; the notorious is just epic in every way. it’s exceeded most expectations I had. Such a fun car to drive!! The power makes it drive as if it’s weightless, and it handles all ive thrown at it so far(ish). The only slight surprise is how easily it bottoms out at the moment. Has anyone else experienced this? I’ve adjusted the rear shocks slightly by winding the threaded cap on top of the springs to compress them by an additional 10mm more than stock setup. Any other suggestions please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) On 25/04/2021 at 18:11, Ant.p said: Have to say; the notorious is just epic in every way. it’s exceeded most expectations I had. Such a fun car to drive!! The power makes it drive as if it’s weightless, and it handles all ive thrown at it so far(ish). The only slight surprise is how easily it bottoms out at the moment. Has anyone else experienced this? I’ve adjusted the rear shocks slightly by winding the threaded cap on top of the springs to compress them by an additional 10mm more than stock setup. Any other suggestions please? Preloading the shocks doesn't do anything in regards to your issue - it only changes the ride height, but doesn't make it stiffer or bottom out less (you're only pre-compressing the spring, the actual force needed to fully compress it doesn't change). The only way to get it to bottom out less is stiffer springs, or thicker shock oil. I personally, on my Maxx that had the same issue, just went with heavier shock oil. I couldn't tell you what the suggested CST is though, i don't have a notorious - google and/or arrmaforum i'd assume would be the first stops you should take. The shocks are filled with 1000 cSt, which apparently is around 80wt (there's two "competing" measures for viscosity). Which is pretty thick already, so might wanna have a look at stiffer springs. This being your standard spring rate. All info in that regard can be found here. https://www.arrma-rc.com/notorious/ "Detailed Specs" at the bottom. Edited April 26, 2021 by m4inbrain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashingBrian Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 26/04/2021 at 22:19, m4inbrain said: Preloading the shocks doesn't do anything in regards to your issue - it only changes the ride height, but doesn't make it stiffer or bottom out less (you're only pre-compressing the spring, the actual force needed to fully compress it doesn't change). The only way to get it to bottom out less is stiffer springs, or thicker shock oil. I personally, on my Maxx that had the same issue, just went with heavier shock oil. I couldn't tell you what the suggested CST is though, i don't have a notorious - google and/or arrmaforum i'd assume would be the first stops you should take. The shocks are filled with 1000 cSt, which apparently is around 80wt (there's two "competing" measures for viscosity). Which is pretty thick already, so might wanna have a look at stiffer springs. This being your standard spring rate. All info in that regard can be found here. https://www.arrma-rc.com/notorious/ "Detailed Specs" at the bottom. I would suggest you go with 1300cst oil, lots of guys run this weight as an upgrade for the Notorious/Outcast and it works fine..👍🏼 Don't go heavier springs unless you change to a bigger can motor and/or are running larger batteries otherwise the truck will become bouncy..!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant.p Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, BashingBrian said: I would suggest you go with 1300cst oil, lots of guys run this weight as an upgrade for the Notorious/Outcast and it works fine..👍🏼 Don't go heavier springs unless you change to a bigger can motor and/or are running larger batteries otherwise the truck will become bouncy..!! Thank you, I’ll get some on order. I assume you use this for both front and rear? The back end of my Notorious sat lower by a good 10mm than the front out the box on a level surface. I’m using 2 standard size 3s lipos which fit easily and are not as heavy/large as the car can handle. Do you know if this is meant to be, or if I should tweak the springs to bring it level? Edited April 28, 2021 by Ant.p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 You want what's called "bones level". With the car loaded with batteries, the driveshafts should be level or just very slightly raised towards the centre of the car. 50 minutes ago, Ant.p said: Thank you, I’ll get some on order. I assume you use this for both front and rear? The back end of my Notorious sat lower by a good 10mm than the front out the box on a level surface. I’m using 2 standard size 3s lipos which fit easily and are not as heavy/large as the car can handle. Do you know if this is meant to be, or if I should tweak the springs to bring it level? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The rear A Arms are still out of stock, and the date is getting further and further away...... buy an Arrma they said, spare parts avaliability is fine they said..... (tongue in cheek, not great for RC stock full stop at the mo.....) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Busby Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Guns said: The rear A Arms are still out of stock, and the date is getting further and further away...... buy an Arrma they said, spare parts avaliability is fine they said..... (tongue in cheek, not great for RC stock full stop at the mo.....) I think the fact that everyone has said this has made the situation worse, lots of demand! I do have a set of EXB arms here that are for testing various parts, I'd rather keep them but if anyone is absolutely desperate for them, I can part with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 50 minutes ago, Paul Busby said: I think the fact that everyone has said this has made the situation worse, lots of demand! I do have a set of EXB arms here that are for testing various parts, I'd rather keep them but if anyone is absolutely desperate for them, I can part with them. Appreciate the offer, but Im busy anyway so its no big deal at the moment, theyre on order so its a waiting game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 https://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=1331902 15th August now...... Any other options/plans? I cant even get it operational to potentially sell it and buy a Maxx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant.p Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Guns said: https://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=1331902 15th August now...... Any other options/plans? I cant even get it operational to potentially sell it and buy a Maxx? Apparently available here: https://www.scmodels.co.uk/shop/arrma-rear-lower-suspension-arms-148mm-pr/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 In stock at Wheelspin, they emailed me as soon as I posted haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Good News: Bad News: If this was a 1:1 car the insurance wouldve wrote it off by now 😅 Ive ordered the bent parts, now we wait 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Good old RC Breakers..... Its finally back in action 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 On 10/03/2021 at 11:48, m4inbrain said: It actually doesn't matter much which way it is, it's visualised on the Noble NB4. Just press buttons and see the curve change, you want it a bit more horizontal around the centre, like this. Right, so first proper run in what seems ages with the EXB. The Max 6 Combo is no more, downgraded to a Max 8 2200kv motor..... I've also geared down. Finally got it back running so decided to take it easy. I reset the above to a straight line, and the punch was set to level 3. Its still an absolute beast, If im honest doesnt seem that less powerful..... Still brutal power! I then remembered the above EXP settings and dialed it back in to resemble the above. Much better Then the heavens opened! I called it a day and Ive dropped the punch to level 1. I also think I need to thicken the diff fluids to tame it some more. Then I can get it off road and see if I can gel with it as a basher, cause as I admit, everyone else is having better luck bashing theirs than mine! Im quietly confident I can get this where I want it.... if not, I should be able to sell it, re coup some funds and get a Maxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hainesy Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Nice, glad you're finally starting to have some fun with it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant.p Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Please can someone recommend an alternative front bumper for the notorious or something additional like a skid plate? I would be happy to replace with the stock one, but it didn’t last well. Bent out of shape a few times, and the last time I tried to bend back it snapped off entirely 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorys Breaker Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 On 31/05/2021 at 22:28, Ant.p said: Please can someone recommend an alternative front bumper for the notorious or something additional like a skid plate? I would be happy to replace with the stock one, but it didn’t last well. Bent out of shape a few times, and the last time I tried to bend back it snapped off entirely 🤦♂️ Have a look at the t bone racing bumpers. Got the xv4 or something on mine. It’s really strong as I abuse the crap out of my noto 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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