m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I'd agree with "sooner risking a V1 Arrma than a V1 Traxxas". That's not reality though: in reality it's a V1 Arrma that has to go toe to toe with an upgraded/V2 X-Maxx. Fact is, you won't be sending either of those trucks. The Kraton XL won't be lighter than 20-25lbs, much like the X-Maxx. It'll probably be heavier actually if it uses a flat metal chassis. Any truck that size can't take a "borked" landing, if 25lbs at terminal velocity land on an a-arm, it'll snap. The X-Maxx can snap in half, i know of one. The Kraton bends considerably more often than an X-Maxx snaps in half though. And neither of that would happen to mine, since i'm a wuss with my RCs, so that's not even relevant (nor comparable to the 6s Kraton in the first place). In the end, we'll all have to wait to see it in action. I might be entirely off, but at least at this moment, i don't really see the appeal of a bigger, slower, less "stunty" Kraton. For now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 But what if it's not a Kraton XL? What if it's all new? What if it isn't riddled with V1 flaws? We'll have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Lets just assume it's a Kraton XL. That's a safe bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kukynas Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I wouldn't mind flat chassis if the GC stays in MT category (70-100mm) , DBXL-E has it and couple of others too so no issue there (for me at least) but fully agree with weight/size of these cars, none of them are suitable for more than general bashing, once the mass start rolling you better know what you are doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 GC? No idea what that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Ground clearance 👍 That said: i'm still hoping for a Nero XL. Edited November 5, 2019 by m4inbrain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 That would interest me, but no using the 1/8 drive-train, no locking diffs. I like being able to lock diffs, but it's all more to go wrong. Keep it simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnknan Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, m4inbrain said: I'd agree with "sooner risking a V1 Arrma than a V1 Traxxas". That's not reality though: in reality it's a V1 Arrma that has to go toe to toe with an upgraded/V2 X-Maxx. Fact is, you won't be sending either of those trucks. The Kraton XL won't be lighter than 20-25lbs, much like the X-Maxx. It'll probably be heavier actually if it uses a flat metal chassis. Any truck that size can't take a "borked" landing, if 25lbs at terminal velocity land on an a-arm, it'll snap. The X-Maxx can snap in half, i know of one. The Kraton bends considerably more often than an X-Maxx snaps in half though. And neither of that would happen to mine, since i'm a wuss with my RCs, so that's not even relevant (nor comparable to the 6s Kraton in the first place). In the end, we'll all have to wait to see it in action. I might be entirely off, but at least at this moment, i don't really see the appeal of a bigger, slower, less "stunty" Kraton. For now. I mean I can think of at least one person that sends/would send both 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Well yeah. But i'm not made of money and i don't subscribe to "i made a million on ebay, here's how" people. He's also the only person i've ever seen to break an X-Maxx in half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, m4inbrain said: Well yeah. But i'm not made of money and i don't subscribe to "i made a million on ebay, here's how" people. He's also the only person i've ever seen to break an X-Maxx in half. I’ve brought mine home in a bin bag 🤣🤣 Edited November 5, 2019 by mydoddy69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Yeah no lol, whatever i'll be getting: X-Maxx, DBXL-E 2.0 or whatever Arrma is releasing, none of them will ever come home in a bin bag. Ask Simmyoto, he has my XXL2e now. Edited November 5, 2019 by m4inbrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnknan Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, m4inbrain said: Well yeah. But i'm not made of money and i don't subscribe to "i made a million on ebay, here's how" people. He's also the only person i've ever seen to break an X-Maxx in half. Maybe you would be made of money if you bought his eBay course 😉🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, fnknan said: Maybe you would be made of money if you bought his eBay course 😉🤣🤣 Or maybe i'd be out of pocket and he a little richer. Like it usually goes with these kinds of schemes. Doesn't matter if it's a small youtuber, or Trump University - "the bank always wins". Put it this way, if i had "the secret" to making millions on ebay, i'd be making millions on ebay. Not teaching others how to do the same asking for their money. But hey, if you're interested, i could get you into the cosmetic business. You only need to buy 1000 of these face paintbrushes off of me. And you make more if you gather three more people interested in becoming a face paintbrush salesman, buying 1000 face paintbrushes off of me too. If you excuse me now, there's a nigerian prince waiting for a small fee of £3000 so i can receive the millions of dollars that i inherited. Edited November 5, 2019 by m4inbrain 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 It's funny the DBXL was brought up. That had a pressed aluminium 4mm chassis and flexed terribly. It didn't bend but the rebound on a short jump meant it noses over. The E fixed it by adding another plate on the chassis. The 5ive chassis is 1mm thicker but it doesn't flex much and takes considerable force to bend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmyoto Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Just finished watching that, is it genuine? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Tug said: Just finished watching that, is it genuine? 🤔 Would be hard to tell without the original picture, its very compressed. if it is its flat chassis, thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersavage Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Aussiercplayground posted something curious and involved a fair bit of drama on his Facebook page about someone releasing images on a new vehicle coming out, didn't say what make it was though. However judging by what he posted it seemed to me that it was about this new Arrma truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmyoto Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, supersavage said: Aussiercplayground posted something curious and involved a fair bit of drama on his Facebook page about someone releasing images on a new vehicle coming out, didn't say what make it was though. However judging by what he posted it seemed to me that it was about this new Arrma truck. Have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersavage Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) I think it has been taken down as I can't find it. But from what I saw was apparently some youtubers were sharing info on some "sensitive information" on a new vehicle and one of them leaked the image somewhere and claimed that Vas was the one who did it, or something along those lines. I'd take this with a pinch of salt as I'm not entirely sure of what occurred however Vas was extremely angry and upset about it as he said due to this his relationship with whatever company it is is pretty much finished. Edited November 6, 2019 by supersavage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmyoto Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Yeah, I spoke with him and he is going off.. says his hh contact gave him that same photo in confidence and said no one else had it so they would know it was him.if he leaked it.... he was pretty mad saying his relationship with arrma is now.gonna be over, so I said he shouldn't have shared it with his friends then... and he replied that apparently he didnt have any friends any more. Long and short he says its genuine and it was sent to him by hh Edited November 6, 2019 by Simmyoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 The picture in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Simmyoto said: Yeah, I spoke with him and he is going off.. says his hh contact gave him that same photo in confidence and said no one else had it so they would know it was him.if he leaked it.... he was pretty mad saying his relationship with arrma is now.gonna be over, so I said he shouldn't have shared it with his friends then... and he replied that apparently he didnt have any friends any more. Long and short he says its genuine and it was sent to him by hh By going off you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 If this is it, i guess i'm not that interested. Will be super rock rey for me next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 X-Maxx on christmas for me. Would've taken an Outcast over an X-Maxx, probably - but the Kraton doesn't do it for me after a little thought about it. It's slower, less "stunty", less forgiving on landings than the 6s version. And personally, the biggest problem (after making aware of it by someone else) - in the end, it's actually not an exciting vehicle. It won't be as ridiculous to drive/way more stable as an X-Maxx (due to lower CG and wider stance). But it also won't be as crisp as the DBXL-E 2.0. I'm sure it'll find fans, but for me, it's a bit half baked and i absolutely think they should've started the line with a slightly shorter wheelbased Outcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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