Ollykamakazi Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 OK thanks, that helped. I've now set toe in correct without the servo horn connected, it turns left and right equal. But the turning circle is still awful. If I set the steering dual rate dial full on the steering is good, but is that correct? Surely it should have a good turning circle with the dual rate set in the middle - no?Hi. My sons is the same. Rubbish turning circle. I’m sorry to say you’re setting the wheels up in the wrong way. Toe in makes a car track straiter at high speeds. Toe out makes for twitchier strait lines high speed, but aids turning. You need toe out. Can’t believe no one has prompted you on that. Camber in or negative camber will keep more rubber flat on the ground when cornering. Hope that helps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steephill Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) My Outlaw is still on the original spur and plastic rear driveshaft. I run a Orion 9.5t brushless motor ( not ideal, gets a bit hot but had it spare) On 2s only, plenty quick enough for my needs. Gets a good beating on my local hill climb. Have broken lots of other plastic parts. But they are cheap and easy to get. Edited September 22, 2018 by steephill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ollykamakazi said: Hi. My sons is the same. Rubbish turning circle. I’m sorry to say you’re setting the wheels up in the wrong way. Toe in makes a car track straiter at high speeds. Toe out makes for twitchier strait lines high speed, but aids turning. You need toe out. Can’t believe no one has prompted you on that. Camber in or negative camber will keep more rubber flat on the ground when cornering. Hope that helps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Cheers, I had no idea about that. At least I'll set the toe straight tomorrow. I will play around with the camber. Good that these cars are easy to adjust, it helps the learning curve! Hopefully my new 17kg metal gear servo will help. Still loving the car...... Edited September 22, 2018 by mark-essex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Bought some new wheels/tyres for the car, made by Austar. When I fit them on the car and tighten up the nut the wheels binds at the back. I've read about this somewhere before but now can't find it despite looking! What's the best remedy? If I back off the nut it's fine but I'm concerned the nut may come off and I'd lose it or the wheel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartmoorTrails Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Bought some new wheels/tyres for the car, made by Austar. When I fit them on the car and tighten up the nut the wheels binds at the back. I've read about this somewhere before but now can't find it despite looking! What's the best remedy? If I back off the nut it's fine but I'm concerned the nut may come off and I'd lose it or the wheel!Solved with 12mm hex extensions [emoji106]eBay [emoji6]Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steephill Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I had same problem when I tried some different wheels. Used a thicker wheel hex. Think they are off a slash 4x4. Gave it just enough clearance. I gave these fastrax wheels and tyres ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, DartmoorTrails said: Solved with 12mm hex extensions eBay Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk So is that just a slightly wider hex (presume that's the plastic piece that the wheel fits on to) and I measure what I have and get something a couple of mm wider? Are they all a standard fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartmoorTrails Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 So is that just a slightly wider hex (presume that's the plastic piece that the wheel fits on to) and I measure what I have and get something a couple of mm wider? Are they all a standard fitting?https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F112319786509So the width is the standard 12mm hex, but the length is also 12mm so your wheels stand off from the hubs / lockouts.They're also not plastic which is an added benefit [emoji106]Just make sure to use a medium thread lock on them as there's not a nylon ring to bite into [emoji6]Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, DartmoorTrails said: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F112319786509 So the width is the standard 12mm hex, but the length is also 12mm so your wheels stand off from the hubs / lockouts. They're also not plastic which is an added benefit Just make sure to use a medium thread lock on them as there's not a nylon ring to bite into Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Thanks for the link. I understand the concept that I need the hex deeper, can't quit make out what the various bits are in the picture - I need to take my hex off tonight and have a look what it consists of. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartmoorTrails Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Thanks for the link. I understand the concept that I need the hex deeper, can't quit make out what the various bits are in the picture - I need to take my hex off tonight and have a look what it consists of. Cheers.Pin goes through the shaft.Black hex slides onto the pin and creates the mount for your wheel.Silver nut goes into the hex recess and locks into the shaft [emoji6]Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Just now, DartmoorTrails said: Pin goes through the shaft. Black hex slides onto the pin and creates the mount for your wheel. Silver nut goes into the hex recess and locks into the shaft Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk You're a star, thank you!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Relatively new owner here after a bit of advice. Brushless (from new) Outlaw. Was running it this afternoon and suffered occasional loss of drive along with heavy cogging (I think that's what it was). Came home to investigate and found the motor was loose on its mount. Stripped it back, tightened the motor and re-assembled (noted that that cogs were in good order). No adjustment when putting motor back?) Ran the car again and although it's running better it still seems to cog more than usual (occasional 'jump' starts)and I had one other loss of drive which rectified itself. It seems to run smooth in reverse. Any ideas what I should look at? TIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Yeah, there's no adjustment for the motor position. What motor're & esc are you running? Mine cogged at low speed with the 60a esc, I fitted a 120a esc but I ain't done any slow stuff with it yet ,so I don't know if it's gonna cog or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartmoorTrails Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 My old rukus started to do this once it got too hot. Eventually it went up in smoke so I put it down to general wear and tear and replaced with a gool motor and hw ESC. Problems solved [emoji106]Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Original/standard motor and ESC. Just been looking at the car and not sure if this might have caused it but the RX aerial was zip tied up against the motor wires...something I done when I upgraded the steering servo. I've just moved the aerial (zip tied vertical along the chassis) and after a short run in the garden it seems OK. If you were to push hard down on the car when it's on the ground and accelerate what should happen, what gives? Does the driveshaft still turn and turn the wheels, do the gears slip? Just something that I noticed and wondered what should happen. Trying to diagnose between mechanical and electrical issue...if there is one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Having the ariel against the motor would explain your problem. Brushless motors throw out a lot of radio signals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 On 02/10/2018 at 21:45, NOFX said: Having the ariel against the motor would explain your problem. Brushless motors throw out a lot of radio signals. I'll give it a proper blast at the weekend and report back...fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Ran for an hour this morning, problem fixed by moving the aerial. Came home and strengthened the chassis to help with torque lift (hopefully). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 How did it go? The chassis mod is a must ain't it ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark-essex Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 I've only tried it in the garden since the mod and it was pouring with rain. The 'twist' on acceleration seems to be better but hard to tell when there's not maximum grip. Was fun though! Yesterday's session (pre-mod but running good) was a blast, I can't imagine any other car could give this much fun for the money, I love it. Thing is, what to buy next.... ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nickarla Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Nice jump. Can I ask whether the Outaw crew have any issues with the main crown and pinion gears inside the gearbox? Over at the Carnage/Vantage thread we are all having a few issues with them losing teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartmoorTrails Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Nice jump. Can I ask whether the Outaw crew have any issues with the main crown and pinion gears inside the gearbox? Over at the Carnage/Vantage thread we are all having a few issues with them losing teeth.Not for me, so far.Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone-wolf Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Im coming back to the idea of getting an outlaw as a second car, was looking at brushed and brushless, im sure a few of you will shout...go brushless but im thinking brushed and at later date put a hotter 540 in it, what would be a good brushed motor upgrade for this car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartmoorTrails Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Im coming back to the idea of getting an outlaw as a second car, was looking at brushed and brushless, im sure a few of you will shout...go brushless but im thinking brushed and at later date put a hotter 540 in it, what would be a good brushed motor upgrade for this carDepends on budget I suppose, but first thing I'd do is see if you can squeeze a 550 can in there. Probably something in this thread about sizes you can squeeze in...Then I'd get a spare pinion of whatever size it doesn't come with, along with the aluminium mount for that pinion setup.Good brushed for bashing could be Traxxas perhaps?Don't think you need to spend too much for this application [emoji106]Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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