FTX Vantage/Carnage owners Thread

**TRX** · February 21, 2021

2 hours ago, Jens said:

No idea.

Likely to be double.

But my son is now faster than me with the Rustler.

Initially, in front of the house he pressed full throttle.

Car flipped backwards and his new shell cracked.

Went emotional and he lost the mood for a moment.

Then he was very carefully with the speed.

2 hours later, he couldn't get enough speed on the sports field.

He enjoyed mid-speed wheelies, followed by front wheelies and some side wheelies.

Sweet!

**azibux1** · February 22, 2021

On 20/02/2021 at 23:10, Jens said:

They don't tell you the inner diameter for the shaft.

Watch out for that.

Corally has 5mm (1/8) or 3.17mm (1/10).

Above one doesn't say which.

One more thing to bear in mind.

With larger pinion and higher speed, there will be a bit more stress on the drive train.

And motor/ESC get hotter.

And you might end up with cogging when starting.

But then you always have a fall back option. 🙂

Cheers!

**DavidBH** · February 22, 2021

Iain thanks for the bumpers. Another modelsport order made including wheel for the rear!

Bought some scrim today for hardening up the shell but what glue did you guys use and is there ever an issue of it getting hot and melting etc.? I have a few mastic gun tubes of sticks like **** was going to use it to layer the scrim down.

May also try and stick the present damaged one in as well which would double the thickness. Pity there isnt just a really really tough one available. This is the third shell and they all rip around the mounting posts so I think I will spend some extra time strengthing that area.

**Iain .R** · February 22, 2021

6 minutes ago, DavidBH said:

Iain thanks for the bumpers. Another modelsport order made including wheel for the rear!

Bought some scrim today for hardening up the shell but what glue did you guys use and is there ever an issue of it getting hot and melting etc.? I have a few mastic gun tubes of sticks like **** was going to use it to layer the scrim down.

May also try and stick the present damaged one in as well which would double the thickness. Pity there isnt just a really really tough one available. This is the third shell and they all rip around the mounting posts so I think I will spend some extra time strengthing that area.

Do what you said on here m8 scrim tape mastic and old shell double it up . It be like an armoured car lol

**Stormbringer** · February 22, 2021

Some of the guys use Shoo Glue others are using this stuff

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B085H33GPN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

**DavidBH** · February 22, 2021

May add a brick to the front to try and hold it down, had a we blast without the shell on in the back garden. No need to cut the grass honestly that hobbywing motor and 3s lipo is just crazy

**DavidBH** · February 22, 2021

2 minutes ago, Stormbringer said:

Some of the guys use Shoo Glue others are using this stuff

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B085H33GPN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks stormbringer will test the sticks like in the old shell just to check how it sets and if it's too stiff will get a tube of that

**Stormbringer** · February 22, 2021

and heres a thread about it

**Stormbringer** · February 22, 2021

I used it to repair my tritons shell it had split at the mounts and body clips pulled through and seems to have done the trick used the plasterers tape and gorilla glue :good:

**Iain .R** · February 25, 2021

Me and the 3 kids went out to day to taff trail with the 2 outlaws and carnage they was blasting around trail and was having fun then my son stopped the carnage and went in to reverse???????? Nothing so I went over and **** me .. no power to the wheels but steering works FFS where did I just have that too .

So we spent the next hr using the 2 outlaws in fact I didnt get to use any again.. .

So back home there post my new motor off ftx for the outlaw . So plugged it in to the carnage turned it on its alive

Oo **** so just had to fit the NEW motor to the carnage . While I still try and find a brushless one for outlaws . 2 motors in days . .

**DavidBH** · February 25, 2021

12 minutes ago, Iain .R said:

Me and the 3 kids went out to day to taff trail with the 2 outlaws and carnage they was blasting around trail and was having fun then my son stopped the carnage and went in to reverse???????? Nothing so I went over and **** me .. no power to the wheels but steering works FFS where did I just have that too .

So we spent the next hr using the 2 outlaws in fact I didnt get to use any again.. .

So back home there post my new motor off ftx for the outlaw . So plugged it in to the carnage turned it on its alive

Oo **** so just had to fit the NEW motor to the carnage . While I still try and find a brushless one for outlaws . 2 motors in days . .

I feel your pain. Got my money back from the goolrc though. That wasn't the hobbywing motor in the carnage was it?

**Redback** · February 25, 2021

your going through motors like the clappers, something might be up, when you have the car apart check nothing is binding.
also are you getting the beep boop, did you test the motor in the other car?
glad you got your money back on the goolrc, doesnt seem to happen often sadly.

Edited February 25, 2021 by Redback

**Stormbringer** · February 25, 2021

When you have the motor out make sure it rolls fairly freely :cheers:

**Iain .R** · February 25, 2021

Hi no its was the original motor from 2 1/2 years old car. .

No that was st things I checked .

The outlaw was bought in jan this year so I think that there was somthing wrong with it for it to burn out so soon I think .

As for the carnage it's over 2 years old and its the original motor so I guess it was time .

But the two was both different one went very slow and died one went fast and died instantly.

**Iain .R** · February 25, 2021

3 minutes ago, Stormbringer said:

When you have the motor out make sure it rolls fairly freely

Yeaa wheels turn very well there no noise or grinding just smooth roll . On both cars

**Iain .R** · February 25, 2021

6 minutes ago, DavidBH said:

I feel your pain. Got my money back from the goolrc though. That wasn't the hobbywing motor in the carnage was it?

No m8 ftx jobby lol .

**Stormbringer** · February 25, 2021

the brushes are spring loaded and as they wear down it will lose power/run slower as the springs cant push the brushes onto the commutator :cheers:

**Iain .R** · February 25, 2021

I just got azibux1 old outlaw motor left to change lol

**Redback** · February 25, 2021

4 minutes ago, Iain .R said:

I just got azibux1 old outlaw motor left to change lol

farewell motor, you had a short but fun life, theres nothing wrong with your outlaw they eat motors due to poor design, ergo be careful what you choose to put into it, invest well and wisely and you will be very happy for a long time... cough hobbywing 😉

**Iain .R** · February 25, 2021

1 hour ago, Redback said:

farewell motor, you had a short but fun life, theres nothing wrong with your outlaw they eat motors due to poor design, ergo be careful what you choose to put into it, invest well and wisely and you will be very happy for a long time... cough hobbywing 😉

Cheers no one said about hobbywing motors tho lol .

**azibux1** · February 26, 2021

15 hours ago, Iain .R said:

I just got azibux1 old outlaw motor left to change lol

Don't break it! haha

**Iain .R** · February 26, 2021

1 minute ago, azibux1 said:

Don't break it! haha

Ha ha ha I'll try lol

**Redback** · February 26, 2021

All said with love and fun, see you back here hopefully not in too short of a time, I look forward to the days when your telling people to go brushless 😁💞

**Iain .R** · February 26, 2021

Well I'm sweet talking the mrs into letting me buy the blue brusless set up that was posted on here .as iv really looked an I'm stumped on what type (in my budget at the.moment ) I will eventually get the hobby jobby one but not today . .

Its gorgeous out side and my health probs flared up so I'm bit cheesed off .as all cars are ready to roll so I'm upping.my morphine so hopefully kill the pain in a bit so we can go out for a wee bash .

**TRX** · February 27, 2021

I have gone with the advice from folks over here and bought local. Still eBay though but returns and refunds are something I am willing to pay a little extra for.

@Iain .R, if you get stuck, I have a link to a brushless setup on eBay, which I previously posted in this thread. Setup was easy (well apart from putting the motor on when stubbornly wanting to keep the front wheel on) and apart from the reverse being forward, it works like a dream. The setup has survived snow bashing, rain, cleaning in the bath....

Power is stupid, if I turn, the car flips over, tyres seem to no longer be able to grip, suspension needs firming up...

It's just like big cars, as soon as you hike the power, you need to think about upgrading all other components

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