Team corally dementor

I'm hoping that maybe they come out with a talion spec truck cos I'm dying for a talion but I'm not spending the best part of £500

Maybe they'll bring one out and you can spend the best part of £490 [emoji16]

11 hours ago, Paul Busby said:

Seems bizarre to make something different... but the same... I don't really get why they wouldn't just make a different RC car....

I just had a look at wheelspin who seem to be stocking them (Kronos) and they're basically the same price (Kraton).

Unless the Corally offers something more that makes their product worthwhile, I think I would pay the ~£10 and get the guaranteed parts availability of an Arrma.

 It’s only just hit the U.K. it’s not even out in the states yet I’d expect parts support to be a little slow from the start it’s how they move forward which we need to wait and see. When Arrma first came out parts support in the U.K. was terrible in fact it only got better when Horizon took over and logic became the distributor and that’s been around the last 12-18 months. 
 

The price point is close but what you get isn’t so much, a machined chassis compared to a stamped one  what looks to be better bracing adjustable servo saver and a whole lot of other little tweaks makes it well worth more so in fact your actually getting a cheaper better made truck and that no matter the saving  it is worth it I think 

1 hour ago, mydoddy69 said:

 It’s only just hit the U.K. it’s not even out in the states yet I’d expect parts support to be a little slow from the start it’s how they move forward which we need to wait and see. When Arrma first came out parts support in the U.K. was terrible in fact it only got better when Horizon took over and logic became the distributor and that’s been around the last 12-18 months. 
 

The price point is close but what you get isn’t so much, a machined chassis compared to a stamped one  what looks to be better bracing adjustable servo saver and a whole lot of other little tweaks makes it well worth more so in fact your actually getting a cheaper better made truck and that no matter the saving  it is worth it I think 

Thanks for the info.

 

I guess the question is, do they have the logistical capacity to compete with Horizon and Arrma?

Could be a bit of a chicken and egg, people don't commit to spending £400+ on a truck as there spare situation isn't great, so Corally don't commit to the spares market.

47 minutes ago, Paul Busby said:

Thanks for the info.

 

I guess the question is, do they have the logistical capacity to compete with Horizon and Arrma?

Could be a bit of a chicken and egg, people don't commit to spending £400+ on a truck as there spare situation isn't great, so Corally don't commit to the spares market.

Not sure I understand this tbh.

 

Corally aren't new to the RC market. And there are loads of £400+ RC's out there by smaller companies.

14 minutes ago, 300bhp/ton said:

Not sure I understand this tbh.

 

Corally aren't new to the RC market. And there are loads of £400+ RC's out there by smaller companies.

Yeah I get that, but at the end of the day they want us to actually buy it, but how many of us are going to buy a truck that is clearly designed to be bashed, and an almost carbon copy of a well supported design, until we see a reasonable spares network?

 

As mydoddy said, it took for Horizon to buy Arrma for them to be well supported, and if someone is going to go out and buy a truck tomorrow, do you recommend they buy the Corally?

I guess it all comes back to the point that I don't really understand why they have lined them up so closely to the Arrma counter parts. All they had to do is change the shell and the name enough to differentiate themself, I guess we wouldn't be having this conversation.

1 hour ago, 300bhp/ton said:

Not sure I understand this tbh.

 

Corally aren't new to the RC market. And there are loads of £400+ RC's out there by smaller companies.

 

+1 on this ^^

 

Parts support won't be an issue.... 

 

Especially since Corally is Taiwanese/chinese owned now.... And the DEMENTOR is just a rebranded 'titan'... The parts are already out there... 

 

I suppose the real question is.... Is it the same quality as arrma.... Better... Worse.... 

 

The question I want to know is..... How closely are the two companies linked in terms of manufacturers.... Given both companies use Taiwan....

 

 

38 minutes ago, Paul Busby said:

Yeah I get that, but at the end of the day they want us to actually buy it, but how many of us are going to buy a truck that is clearly designed to be bashed, and an almost carbon copy of a well supported design, until we see a reasonable spares network?

 

As mydoddy said, it took for Horizon to buy Arrma for them to be well supported, and if someone is going to go out and buy a truck tomorrow, do you recommend they buy the Corally?

I guess it all comes back to the point that I don't really understand why they have lined them up so closely to the Arrma counter parts. All they had to do is change the shell and the name enough to differentiate themself, I guess we wouldn't be having this conversation.

If it is a carbon copy as you say.  Will parts not be interchangeable? Therefore already existing good parts supply?

 

Still not sure I really see what you are getting at.  Are you saying nobody should buy a Schumacher, Team Associated, XRay, Yokomo, HaBoa, Axial, Carisma, GMade, Redcat, etc because they don't have such a good parts supply as HH or Traxxas in the UK??

2 minutes ago, Fly In My Soup said:

 

Especially Corally is Taiwanese owned now.... And the DEMENTOR is just a rebranded 'titan'... The parts are already out there... 

 

Do you have a link to the "Titan"? I cant find it

 

Just now, 300bhp/ton said:

If it is a carbon copy as you say.  Will parts not be interchangeable? Therefore already existing good parts supply?

 

Still not sure I really see what you are getting at.  Are you saying nobody should buy a Schumacher, Team Associated, XRay, Yokomo, HaBoa, Axial, Carisma, GMade, Redcat, etc because they don't have such a good parts supply as HH or Traxxas in the UK??

I said "almost" carbon copy.... but probably not really what I mean.

 

I'm not saying people should or shouldn't do anything, if anything I'm looking for reasons that we should want to buy this, not reasons that would should avoid it, I'm just struggling to see whatt he circumstances are that it would make more sense to buy the Corally than an Arrma, when they seem incredibly similar in both appearance and structural design, barring a few key upgrades.

1 hour ago, Fly In My Soup said:

 

+1 on this ^^

 

Parts support won't be an issue.... 

 

Especially since Corally is Taiwanese/chinese owned now.... And the DEMENTOR is just a rebranded 'titan'... The parts are already out there... 

 

I suppose the real question is.... Is it the same quality as arrma.... Better... Worse.... 

 

The question I want to know is..... How closely are the two companies linked in terms of manufacturers.... Given both companies use Taiwan....

 

 

 I keep hearing about this Titan but I’m yet to find one or any parts do you have links to it please ? 

No sorry I don't. 

 

I just picked up on a reply to comment on corally's fb post by team corally themselves

Guess we just have to wait and see what happens then!

 

I certainly won't be one of the early guinea pigs though.

Guinea pig at what though? What is the experiment? 🤨

Picked this up on Facebook apparently they have some nice upgrades in the pipe line already 

 

 

 

Guinea pig at what though? What is the experiment? [emoji2955]

As in I'm not going to be an early adopter of a new platform. Wait until there are reviews and a bit of experience... Just like any product of any kind in the world ever...

I'll put this back up as I'm not too sure if everyone can see it unless they are logged into the Arrma forum.

Edited December 11, 2019 by babylon

I'm not entirely sure why people here play dumb or misrepresent what Paul is saying. He has an entirely valid point. In fact it's pretty easy to check, it's not the first RC TC is manufacturing. If you look at the spares situation for, for example, their 1/10 racing buggy, you'll notice quite the absence of spare parts in the UK. In fact, while admittedly i only briefly googled, there's a single shop selling the chassis plate for example. Out of stock of course.

 

If you want spares for a TC vehicle, it's very likely you'll be ordering it from europe (unsurprisingly, since they're belgian vehicles), where the vast majority of spare parts are sitting. I don't need to spell out where the problem lies there, do i?

 

The trucks itself surprised me, after watching a "reveal" or "worldpremiere" on a german channel - they look good, in fact. But the spare situation for Corallies isn't great in the UK, and it clearly won't get better after january. 

Edited December 11, 2019 by m4inbrain

1 hour ago, babylon said:

I'll put this back up as I'm not too sure if everyone can see it unless they are logged into the Arrma forum.

 Still can’t find nothing about it anywhere lol 

36 minutes ago, m4inbrain said:

I'm not entirely sure why people here play dumb or misrepresent what Paul is saying. He has an entirely valid point. In fact it's pretty easy to check, it's not the first RC TC is manufacturing. If you look at the spares situation for, for example, their 1/10 racing buggy, you'll notice quite the absence of spare parts in the UK. In fact, while admittedly i only briefly googled, there's a single shop selling the chassis plate for example. Out of stock of course.

 

If you want spares for a TC vehicle, it's very likely you'll be ordering it from europe (unsurprisingly, since they're belgian vehicles), where the vast majority of spare parts are sitting. I don't need to spell out where the problem lies there, do i?

 

The trucks itself surprised me, after watching a "reveal" or "worldpremiere" on a german channel - they look good, in fact. But the spare situation for Corallies isn't great in the UK, and it clearly won't get better after january. 

 CML have only just taken the position of there UK distributor so before shops ordered direct which was on a sale only basis now that cml has  taken control I’d hope to see a vast improvement in parts support but being only early days and the time of the year I’d say it won’t be until the new year now so will just have to wait and see 

 

Talking of parts support Losi aren’t that well supported here in the U.K. unlike overseas neither are a lot of brands nowadays so it’s becoming a bit more acceptable to have to wait on parts like the old days when you’d order a part from your local shop and have to wait a week or 2 for the part to come in lol 

6 hours ago, mydoddy69 said:

Talking of parts support Losi aren’t that well supported here in the U.K. unlike overseas neither are a lot of brands nowadays so it’s becoming a bit more acceptable to have to wait on parts like the old days when you’d order a part from your local shop and have to wait a week or 2 for the part to come in lol 

 

Difference being that i knew that beforehand (the DBXL-E isn't my first Losi), and bought it despite relatively lousy spare support (i generally don't need many spares since i drive my RCs like a little girl) - i also bought an HPI at a time where the company went bust.

 

See my problem isn't really the parts supply of the Corally. Especially not for me personally, after the DBXL-E i'll probably have to put a "brake" on any purchases in the near future or risk a divorce. You'll absolutely be able to get supply, TC isn't a new player on the market and very established in the rest of europe, but that's the problem. The parts are coming from europe. That means there's a good chance that prices will go up drastically in the near future. That doesn't really mean that there's physically no supply, but while i think that these new Corallies (at least the Kronos, that's the only one i looked into in detail) are better than their Arrma counterparts, i don't think they're "20% higher cost-better". At the very least i'd wait until Brexit blows over one way or the other and see where that leaves prices.

 

Also, let me correct a few things here. No, Team Corally isn't chinese/taiwanese. They're also not owned by a chinese/taiwanese company. They're owned by JSP Group Intl BVBA, which sits in Belgium. That's why the prices on the TC website are by default in Euro, not dollars. I accept that the name is very chinese-sounding, maybe a little sponge-bobby, but they're factually not. Speaking of factually, actually: the Titan XP doesn't exist, that's why you can't find it - it indeed never did. I know it was claimed as a fact that the Dementor is a rebranded Titan XP, so "parts are already there, no problem with supply" - but that is nonsense. The Dementor is the Titan XP. Just the release version of it, it was supposed to be called Titan XP pre-production but they changed it. That's why, if you google "C-00165" (that's the Dementors part number), you'll find a few derelict listings on alshobbies, wheelspin etc of the Titan XP. Not "discontinued" models, but deleted pages. And yes, i messaged TC about that, and they confirmed it. 

 

Here's what i do think. I think that, if the Kronos is anything to go by, the Corallies are better quality RCs than Arrma, especially considering the price. I don't think the story is as easy as a few people make it out here (nor do i think it's that hard a concept to grasp that someone struggles over multiple postings with the concept of concern). It probably will be fine, but bunching up on someone who's voicing legitimate concern isn't okay. That CML is starting to distribute Corally over here is great (and indeed i didn't know that until then) and helpful for the parts supply - but still leaves concerns about pricing in case stuff hits the fan. 

Edited December 12, 2019 by m4inbrain

Thing is losi parts and trucks all come out of Germany now as well infact lots of stuff we get here actually comes from there so it won’t be just Team Corally that gets effected and so I’m not overly concerned and like anything new your just have to give it time to see. 
 

There’s a lot of what ifs or if that,  floating around but nothing to back it up just yet so WHAT IF this turns out to be the best basher on the market I’d happily wait on on parts IF it needed any 😂
 

We just  got to sit tight and wait oh and here is the low down on it it’s just been posted on there web site looks like we should get it for the same price as the Kronos which is nice 👍👍 Theres also more pics to checkout as well 

 

https://corally.com/Car-RTR/Team-Corally-DEMENTOR-XP-6S-1-8-Monster-Truck-SWB-RTR-Brushless-Power-6S-No-Battery-No-Charger/

I mean, information about the infrastructure aside (which I was asking about), that's essentially what I was saying all along, so I'm a bit confused why people were treating me like I was being somehow obtuse. [emoji2371]

Looking good 

 

 

 

Regarding the spares situation cml are apparently getting a full selection for the Kronos tomorrow 👍

 

I like the look of them, much better components out the factory and slightly cheaper.

 

CML are getting a full stock of parts in and even if we need to buy something from Belgium, coming out of the EU isn't going to put prices up much if at all once the dust has settled. They are even making their own hop up parts which is nice.

 

If we don't support smaller companies and create competition in the market place, Horizon are just going to keep releasing lower quality cars each year knowing people will buy them anyway as there is no alternative.

 

I'm going to take a punt with the Kronos and fingers crossed I'm pleasantly surprised

36 minutes ago, F1aw1ess said:

I like the look of them, much better components out the factory and slightly cheaper.

 

CML are getting a full stock of parts in and even if we need to buy something from Belgium, coming out of the EU isn't going to put prices up much if at all once the dust has settled. They are even making their own hop up parts which is nice.

 

If we don't support smaller companies and create competition in the market place, Horizon are just going to keep releasing lower quality cars each year knowing people will buy them anyway as there is no alternative.

 

I'm going to take a punt with the Kronos and fingers crossed I'm pleasantly surprised

Please post up your experiences, would be really interested to know how they stack up!