BUDFORCE Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, BenRC said: What weight diff fluid would be best to put into outlaw front and rear diffs for general driving? TIA I believe 30w (or 350) on the fronts and lighter on the rear, maybe 20w (or 200) or even 10w(100). RC shock oil has some wierd grading I have never seen in motor oils before lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 In goes a MAX10 combo… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain .R Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, walkbythesea said: In goes a MAX10 combo… Hi nice . I would say the alloy steering servo is a must on this . As I got one on mind with the brusless set up and wow the turn is fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Iain .R said: Hi nice . I would say the alloy steering servo is a must on this . As I got one on mind with the brusless set up and wow the turn is fantastic. I have the alloy servo saver parts in stock, I’ve just not fitted them yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 So I loved the Max10 combo for about 10 minutes, blasting around on a half pack whilst waiting for my colleague to sort his Carnage out for a bit of lunchtime racy racy… Then within a minute of putting my full pack on the car just stopped - I don’t have my temp gun on me today, it’s hot here and the motor can is hot hot hot - presumably the temp sensor has just shut it down… …but really? Less than 12 minutes on 2s on the stock (lowest) gear ratio and it’s overheating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Yep because you know the truck eats motors and is poorly geared, dont blame the motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 29 minutes ago, Redback said: Yep because you know the truck eats motors and is poorly geared, dont blame the motor. I wasn’t blaming the motor, I love the motor 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) What’s the answer though? Motor fans? The Outlaw body is pretty open anyway so I wouldn’t expect airflow problems. Volt up, gear down? 3s and smaller tyres? With the wonky scale going on it would probably look stupid with smaller tyres though. Edited June 15, 2021 by walkbythesea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No brains Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, walkbythesea said: What’s the answer though? Motor fans? The Outlaw body is pretty open anyway so I wouldn’t expect airflow problems. Volt up, gear down? 3s and smaller tyres? I don't know nothing about the outlaw, a fan can help, but for what kind of speed is the car geared and how much weighs the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, No brains said: I don't know nothing about the outlaw, a fan can help, but for what kind of speed is the car geared and how much weighs the car? The internet says weight of 2.2kg, Gear Ratio: 11.2:1, mine does about 30mpg on 2s - I’ve not released since fitting an HW Max 10 3300kv combo yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No brains Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: The internet says weight of 2.2kg, Gear Ratio: 11.2:1, mine does about 30mpg on 2s - I’ve not released since fitting an HW Max 10 3300kv combo yesterday Nothing is bind in the drivetrain maybe bad bearing ?, If not , I think if its a normal size can 3652 hobbywing motor it is a little bit on the smal side for the car with that weight, I see you can put a longer motor in there I think that your better off with a 3660 size can motor or larger if it fits. I had the same on my ruster 4x4 the car weight 2.3 kilo and it had a castle 3652 can motor in it, that was fine for cooler weather but with warm weather it was getting on the warm side for my liking so I swapped it for a 3665 can motor. Edited June 15, 2021 by No brains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Damn, I had asked around for advice before purchase and only fitted it last night! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No brains Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, walkbythesea said: Damn, I had asked around for advice before purchase and only fitted it last night! 😂 Thats a pita, when I have a car that weighs more then 2 kilo I always put a larger can motor in because I know It wil get to hot especially when it is 4 wheel drive, the only car that you can get away with it is a crawler because of the low gearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, No brains said: I see you can put a longer motor in there I think that your better off with a 3660 size can motor or larger if it fits. Definitely looks like I could fit a longer can in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No brains Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: Definitely looks like I could fit a longer can in Yes I think a 3660 fits easy, bigger I don't know you have to measure it, if a 3665 can fit this one I have put in my rustler 4x4 good motor and I do not break the bank https://hobbyking.com/nl_nl/turnigy-xk-3665-3190kv-brushless-inrunner.html?wrh_pdp=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enduroexpert Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Could someone tell me how many turns the 550 brushed motor that comes with the Outlaw please....? My new Outlaw arrives tomorrow and I've just found a unused Mtronics 14 (Turn minimum) ESC that is both waterproof and can use 2s Lipo's which I also have, so thinking of switching the ESC and to Lipo's for a bit more punch. Cheers Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, enduroexpert said: Could someone tell me how many turns the 550 brushed motor that comes with the Outlaw please....? My new Outlaw arrives tomorrow and I've just found a unused Mtronics 14 (Turn minimum) ESC that is both waterproof and can use 2s Lipo's which I also have, so thinking of switching the ESC and to Lipo's for a bit more punch. Cheers Johnny You can use the stock ESC with 2s lipo - you’ll just need to change the Tamiya plug or use an adaptor. The stock motor is 17t I believe, I’ll check properly later if you still need to know, I’ve got a dead one in my scrap bucket somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 56 minutes ago, No brains said: Yes I think a 3660 fits easy, bigger I don't know you have to measure it, if a 3665 can fit this one I have put in my rustler 4x4 good motor and I do not break the bank https://hobbyking.com/nl_nl/turnigy-xk-3665-3190kv-brushless-inrunner.html?wrh_pdp=1 Do you know if this is available with a 3.17mm output shaft? I don’t know if there’s a pinion compatible with my spur that will accept a 5mm shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Your in the same position i was in, no choice on gearing down, so just make your own transmission 😉 Theres no 5mm pinions for this transmission. You wont fit in longer the can without modifications. 3652 is not 3665 the max can size is really 3655. Put a fan on the motor not much else you can do, least its hobbywing and wont kill itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No brains Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: Do you know if this is available with a 3.17mm output shaft? I don’t know if there’s a pinion compatible with my spur that will accept a 5mm shaft. what mod gear is it ? I see it is 0.6 hot racing makes then, but I do not own the car so you have to measure how much room you have for a longer can motor. https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/19012068649 https://www.rc-race-shop.de/en/rc-pinion-gear-m0.6-5mm/ Edited June 15, 2021 by No brains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enduroexpert Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: You can use the stock ESC with 2s lipo - you’ll just need to change the Tamiya plug or use an adaptor. The stock motor is 17t I believe, I’ll check properly later if you still need to know, I’ve got a dead one in my scrap bucket somewhere. Please, if you could let me know that would be great thanks, just want to try the Mtroniks against the stock ESC to see how they compare, just want to make sure I don't cook the Mtroniks as it's a good ESC Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badcrumble Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 This is the motor listed as spares for the Outlaw / Carnage at Modelsport Modelsport Outlaw motor The turn count isn't listed but the image looks like it ends in a '5'. Make It Build It have it listed as 15T MIBI Outlaw motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Badcrumble said: This is the motor listed as spares for the Outlaw / Carnage at Modelsport Modelsport Outlaw motor The turn count isn't listed but the image looks like it ends in a '5'. Make It Build It have it listed as 15T MIBI Outlaw motor Yup, definitely 15t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No brains Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Redback said: Your in the same position i was in, no choice on gearing down, so just make your own transmission 😉 Theres no 5mm pinions for this transmission. You wont fit in longer the can without modifications. 3652 is not 3665 the max can size is really 3655. Put a fan on the motor not much else you can do, least its hobbywing and wont kill itself. I know a 3665 is not the size of a hobbywing 3652 motor, I asked of a longer motors fit because that can help with the temps, it seems like a 3660 motor fit, if you read the early pages of this tread there are people that have put a 3660 motor in it so it fits. I was only trying to help, but saying there is nothing you can do is not right, even 0.6 mod pinions are out there with a 5mm bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No brains Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, walkbythesea said: Do you know if this is available with a 3.17mm output shaft? I don’t know if there’s a pinion compatible with my spur that will accept a 5mm shaft. If you look at page 6 of this tread you can see a 3660 motor fits, and 0.6 mod pinion with a 5mm bore are also out there. maybe this can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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