babylon Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Quote I'm my experience clone upgrades are cheap for a reason. Monkey metal, poor tolerance etc. This is my hole point, What in gods name do you class as a clone upgrade, Roverman has said in the past that the KM Alloy Baja clutch carrier is as good as anything and is all you need, So do you no now class this as a clone upgrade, If it turns out to be just as good as Tr's, Do you now put them in the same category. We all know what is happening, People are classing anything that comes out of China as the cheap clone stuff and is fair game for ridicule, Anything else is the real macoy, Fully licensed by Losi or HPI. Your above statement is also a bit ironic, Considering your profile says you are running a SCZ engine, Which I do believe, Is supposed to be a clone of the BZM. Quote cheap for a reason. Monkey metal, poor tolerance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmart Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 17 minutes ago, babylon said: This is my hole point, What in gods name do you class as a clone upgrade, Roverman has said in the past that the KM Alloy Baja clutch carrier is as good as anything and is all you need, So do you no now class this as a clone upgrade, If it turns out to be just as good as Tr's, Do you now put them in the same category. We all know what is happening, People are classing anything that comes out of China as the cheap clone stuff and is fair game for ridicule, Anything else is the real macoy, Fully licensed by Losi or HPI. Your above statement is also a bit ironic, Considering your profile says you are running a SCZ engine, Which I do believe, Is supposed to be a clone of the BZM. He also runs at least one BZM engine as well, which he's had for two years plus. The problem is BZM had part availability issues, as in they stopped supplying any bloody thing.... You've an X2, correct? You realise that you really can't talk as your engine, a KM is a clone of a CY which is a clone of the original Zenoah.. Stick that in ya pipe and smoke it 'double clone' boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaniumrc Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I can vouch for the SCZ engine [emoji106] was bought for 2 reasons 1 I wanted something different from a week wacker and 2 BZM micro parts are no longer been made, but cloning it's all mostly cloned at the end of the day, minor teaks here and there and the biggest of the cloners is sure to be TR. Not many parts are actually different baja related but the EAC, nothing on the market is even close the rest well it's cloned from HPI. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babylon Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Carpmart said: He also runs at least one BZM engine as well, which he's had for two years plus. The problem is BZM had part availability issues, as in they stopped supplying any bloody thing.... What's that got to do with anything, You go around making quotes like that, Then you have to practise what you preach. 5 minutes ago, Carpmart said: You've an X2, correct? You realise that you really can't talk as your engine, a KM is a clone of a CY which is a clone of the original Zenoah.. Stick that in ya pipe and smoke it 'double clone' boy! Difference is, I know it, I'm not two faced about it, I don't go around slagging of cloning and being all high and mighty, While at the same time using that very same cloned stuff. weather you like it or not(is that the right spelling), Unless they are paying HPI or Losi royalties, They are all cloning, And I don't smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -BEZ- Posted January 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2016 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babylon Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Yer, But no dummies have been thrown yet, So we've not moved to the next level, And it's my ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beano123 Posted January 8, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2016 We can talk about clones etc all day long but in the end its all about having a hobby and having fun on a budget we can afford. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistonhead Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Don't think this thread was another clone debate was it? It's just most threads questioning a clone become full arguments over what's better and end up getting locked because someone throws their toys out of the pram, and it's always just as there's some good points being raised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 The only point imo is they are all toys and you choose where you spend your own money, if we were talking about medical equipment there might be a problem, but if I buy a km toy car and it blows up who gives a toss! ( owner of original and clone toy cars ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted January 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2016 I'll tell you what I don't like, I've posted that handbags picture before and it got deleted! Bez posts it and half the forum clicks the "like" button! Talk about double standards! What was the topic? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Zen vs cy http://www.emjayltd.com/importexport/chung-yang-products/chung-yang-vs-zenoah/ very much chicken and egg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 As an outsider, i think "measuring" was the topic. Certainly feels like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Tug said: I'll tell you what I don't like, I've posted that handbags picture before and it got deleted! Bez posts it and half the forum clicks the "like" button! Talk about double standards! What was the topic? So are you saying bez has cloned you? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmart Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 More yawns from me...can we talk about something interesting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Carpmart said: More yawns from me...can we talk about something interesting? Looks like it might snow on Monday 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmart Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Just now, sean-vrs said: Looks like it might snow on Monday About bloody time I say... Need some cold wether to kill off all the cold and flu bugs knocking around at present... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, sean-vrs said: So are you saying bez has cloned you? That's it! I'm taking legal action! I've been cloned without my consent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover Man Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Carpmart said: About bloody time I say... Need some cold wether to kill off all the cold and flu bugs knocking around at present... Thats ok if you work in a nice warm office. Some of us work outside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Carpmart said: About bloody time I say... Need some cold wether to kill off all the cold and flu bugs knocking around at present... It also might kill off the delivery of them Xmaxx thingymejigs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, sean-vrs said: It also might kill off the delivery of them Xmaxx thingymejigs! X-Maxx? What's that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_RCModelz Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, sean-vrs said: Looks like it might snow on Monday http://www.rcmodelz.co.uk/snow-ski-kit-485.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover Man Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, John_RCModelz said: http://www.rcmodelz.co.uk/snow-ski-kit-485.html That wont work on the X2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmart Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Rover Man said: That wont work on the X2 It's a clone part that's why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I've just been looking in my spares box for a clone part....but they all look the same to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover Man Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, sean-vrs said: I've just been looking in my spares box for a clone part....but they all look the same to me Isnt that the idea of a clone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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