Wrighty8766 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) well, I think it's safe to say that the winter season is upon us for the next few months, with this in mind I have decided to break down my hyper 7 speed runner (which I have just rebuilt and haven't even ran yet) and turn it back into a basher and build something new ready for when the weather picks up again. ignore all of the above as I have changed the project into an 808 build I will be using parts from the hyper GTB to convert it to an onroad car This is just with 6s and I can't fit the lid on properly :-/ the on road she'll will give me much more room to fit 8s in Edited December 25, 2015 by Wrighty8766 Edited for new project :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Why not keep it buggy length and then it would fit into the 8O8 class?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrighty8766 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Would it still class as an 808 as its not a 1/8 touring car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 http://www.rossa.org.uk/classdefinitions.html Single electric motor any size Maximum of 8 cells Max cell voltage 4.2 Volts per cell Max Mah of cells = Unlimited Custom or commercially available body shell which must cover the wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrighty8766 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 I'll have a think on it, the idea of the longer chassis was to give me the extra room to flip the motor round towards the front then I can run twin lipo trays at the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Cool, that would put you in the Electric Open against Bez and Chaser, the recorded is 202mph in that class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieman5 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 As i understand it as long as the chassis is standard the length doesnt matter, it will still quality for the 808 class. So using a hyper st chassis for the extra length and keeping the buggy corners is fine i believe (if thats your plan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 It says converted buggy chassis in the definition? Be worth asking Tony or Bez to be sure?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrighty8766 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 26 minutes ago, .AJ. said: Cool, that would put you in the Electric Open against Bez and Chaser, the recorded is 202mph in that class I'm not going to set my goal so high lol, if I get it past 102 I'll be happy :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrighty8766 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) 12 minutes ago, pieman5 said: As i understand it as long as the chassis is standard the length doesnt matter, it will still quality for the 808 class. So using a hyper st chassis for the extra length and keeping the buggy corners is fine i believe (if thats your plan) That is basically the plan yes, I'll have to look into it more and see what it does actually qualify as, thanks pieman Edited November 22, 2015 by Wrighty8766 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 If Im not mistaken the Hyper SST truggy chassis and the Hyper GTe onroad car share same or similar chassis. Pretty sure once you got the hing pins and diff hold down bits in place all hyper 7 running gear is just bolt on. Hinge pin holders - rear toe in plates etc... Like the motor forward Idea ... however not sure what you'll do on a high speed car for spur? Will it clear chassis or will you need to relieve another slot for it on the opposite side of the diff? was one of the issues we had with some of our first iteration of brushless truggy conversions - before Hong Nor et al made real kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajlovering Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 You can make the body as long as you want as long as the chassis is stock and it will still be in the 8O8 class. My 8O8 car is going to have a body twice as long as the original car Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrighty8766 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 2 hours ago, sputnik said: If Im not mistaken the Hyper SST truggy chassis and the Hyper GTe onroad car share same or similar chassis. Pretty sure once you got the hing pins and diff hold down bits in place all hyper 7 running gear is just bolt on. Hinge pin holders - rear toe in plates etc... Like the motor forward Idea ... however not sure what you'll do on a high speed car for spur? Will it clear chassis or will you need to relieve another slot for it on the opposite side of the diff? was one of the issues we had with some of our first iteration of brushless truggy conversions - before Hong Nor et al made real kits. All of the parts between the 7 and the ST are interchangeable (bar one or two parts) my basic plan is using an ST chassis and a hyper 7 front and rear end so it should be pretty straight forward. I have a 32t spur that is fitted to the 7 at the moment and it is pretty far away from the chassis to be fair 48 minutes ago, ajlovering said: You can make the body as long as you want as long as the chassis is stock and it will still be in the 8O8 class. My 8O8 car is going to have a body twice as long as the original car Cheers So if I used the st chassis would that not be classed as stock? it's the space on the chassis on the 7 that's a problem for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajlovering Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Ok I see the problem. The class definition is as follows Chassis should be 1/8th scale and commercially available GT type or converted buggy. Chassis must be factory not custom made. Mods to the chassis are allowed but must not replace existing factory chassis Single electric motor any size Maximum of 8 cells Max cell voltage 4.2 Volts per cell Max Mah of cells = Unlimited Custom or commercially available body shell which must cover the wheels. The class was added to the ROSSA list to allow the guys in america who have lots of 8 cell buggies with GT shells to run. We didnt want to create just another 8 cell class like the 4 and 6 cell classes as it didnt make sense so this class is is restricted to GT cars with limited mods. The main thing about this class is to modify the body to see how that increases the speed. If you want to carry out lots of modifications then I would look at the 6 cell class. We already have speeds of over 160 mph with the 4 cell class and so I see lots of room for improvements to the 6 cell class. For now the 8O8 class is for stock kits with commercially available parts and must retain the original chassis or an upgraded one that was built for the type of car you have. There is plenty of scope for modifications within other classes Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 6 hours ago, ajlovering said: Ok I see the problem. The class definition is as follows Chassis should be 1/8th scale and commercially available GT type or converted buggy. Chassis must be factory not custom made. Mods to the chassis are allowed but must not replace existing factory chassis Single electric motor any size Maximum of 8 cells Max cell voltage 4.2 Volts per cell Max Mah of cells = Unlimited Custom or commercially available body shell which must cover the wheels. The class was added to the ROSSA list to allow the guys in america who have lots of 8 cell buggies with GT shells to run. We didnt want to create just another 8 cell class like the 4 and 6 cell classes as it didnt make sense so this class is is restricted to GT cars with limited mods. The main thing about this class is to modify the body to see how that increases the speed. If you want to carry out lots of modifications then I would look at the 6 cell class. We already have speeds of over 160 mph with the 4 cell class and so I see lots of room for improvements to the 6 cell class. For now the 8O8 class is for stock kits with commercially available parts and must retain the original chassis or an upgraded one that was built for the type of car you have. There is plenty of scope for modifications within other classes Cheers I just picked up my first GT class car [ Im an offroad guy ] - the OFNA / Hong Nor DM1 Spec [ nitro and electric ] - both are in bits in a rather large box atm ... but I will compare the Hyper ST Pro Chassis length to the DM1 Spec and post up a pic. The Hong Nor GT X3 car and the Hobao GT car seem to be modeled after the "truggy" length chassis not buggy length - but I could be in error here. If thats the case Im not sure how the Hyper ST length chassis would violate. Will compare to the DM1 Pro 1/7th length chassis I have as well ... However as Im re reading your post above - and I defer to your experience and knowledge - as Im a total newb to this stuff - it appears GT is buggy length chassis - just no kickup in front? .... more to follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The X3 GT wheelbase is about 330mm and a truggy is around 360mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 1 minute ago, .AJ. said: The X3 GT wheelbase is about 330mm and a truggy is around 360mm Ayyyye - I see. Thanks for the info and correction. So buggy length it is - cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Yep, the way I read the rules is that you have to run 1/8 buggy chassis or a stock GT chassis, I know the Kyosho Inferno is a odd length, I'll go investigate and report back Edit.... The Inferno is 360mm wheelbase Edited November 23, 2015 by .AJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Hyper GTe specs SPECS: Length: 543mm / 21.4 in Width: 310mm / 12.5 in Height: 184mm / 7.25 in Wheelbase: 330mm / 13 in Ofna / Hing Nor Dm-1e Spec - specs: Specs: Length: 21.5 inches / 546mm Wheel Base: 12.75in / 324mm Width: 13.2 inch / 335mm Weight: 8.3 lbs / 3765g Hong Nor DM-1 1/7th Nitro | Hong Nor DM-1 Spec Nitro | Hobao Hyper ST Pro Truggy Hobao Hyper 7 +4mm / Hyper 7L Buggy chassis ... Edited November 24, 2015 by sputnik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmart Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Be good if you can keep it legal for the 808 class. We will have a few running in that now, so make for some good competition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajlovering Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 From what I see above only the Hang Nor DM-1 1/7 scale is not allowed as its 1/7 and not 1/8. All the others are OK as long as you use all the kit parts that come with the chassis or upgrades available Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrighty8766 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Thanks for all the info guys, it's not something I have really read up on to be honest. I think I'll have a look and see what the smallest 4s I can get in there without any issues so I can keep the buggy chassis....I don't fancy my odds in the electric open class if all else fails I throw in the 2200kv 1717 I have and stick to the 6s class if if this is the case then I may start another project too, I need something to keep me busy over the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajlovering Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Yeah the 6s class record is only 153mph 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrighty8766 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Oh it's only 153mph, that's ok then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrighty8766 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 On 24 November 2015 at 14:36:53, ajlovering said: From what I see above only the Hang Nor DM-1 1/7 scale is not allowed as its 1/7 and not 1/8. All the others are OK as long as you use all the kit parts that come with the chassis or upgrades available Cheers I'm still mulling over this at the moment, I have been looking at the hyper GTB and it seems that they have two different models, one is standard buggy length chassis and the other is roughly 30mm longer. Would the LWB one still class as an 808? Im still really confused as to wether a hyper 7 converted to a GT using an st chassis would qualify as an 808 :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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