TWINSET Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Features2-in-1 Motor/ESC Unit for 1/10 scale carsVortex Sensorless Brushless TechnologySimple compact design for easy installationImproved reliabilityDesigned for LiPo and NiMH batteriesHigh performance 4-pole motorAluminum case with high efficiency coolingForward/brake, forward/brake/reverse and forward/reverse (crawler) function modesUser adjustable performance settingsOverheat protection systemBattery low voltage cut-off systemStatus control by LED and audio tonesPlug&Play: no soldering required, easy setupFitted with Deans high current connectorsSplash ProofDeveloped by Oscar Jansen#ORI28313 Vortex dDrive 2700kV (540, 4P, Deans)#ORI28314 Vortex dDrive 3000kV (540, 4P, Deans)http://www.teamorion.com/upload/product/full-view/1/product/Vortex-dDrive.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-35TIH_HZ8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex97 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 So of you blow the esc then the motor is dead? Good idea but not really needed for 1/10 cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Natty little idea, but as mentioned, is it re-buildable? Could be useful in micro class where space is at a premium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Natty little idea, but as mentioned, is it re-buildable? Could be useful in micro class where space is at a premium. I'm thinking 12th scale Pan cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex97 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Natty little idea, but as mentioned, is it re-buildable? Could be useful in micro class where space is at a premium. The motors are a lot smaller as well. This is only a 1st gen product so its bound to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I'm thinking 12th scale Pan cars? I wonder how it copes with temps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawalker666 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Looks good shame it's not sensored for crawlers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capri-boy Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Orion can's run hot enough as is. Can see a market for this in rtr, keeping the entry price low and pressuring people to get a proper set up when it fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoodoo Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I thought about this idea 25 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Good thought with the temperatures. We have enough problems trying to keep the ESC's and motors cool when they're separated. Neat idea just the same. Thing is part of what would be 'motor' is now ESC, so the rotor is smaller - less power / torque? Al. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Coe Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I'm not sure why everyone has to have quite such a problem with this! If one or other part of this dies, you can get spares. The diagram clearly shows it can be broken down into parts. Spares exist for most parts for a lot of motors, though its often cheaper just to get a new one. You can replace sensor units, rotors and even endbells. Novak Ballistics even let you change the stator which means you can 'repair' one whatever goes wrong. Like I said its normally not worth it, but here it might be. Heat is a obvious concern but: 1: This is a low power setup for RTR's etc so isn't going to be that hot. 2: In many cars the ESC is located literally right next to the motor so this won't be much worse. 3: Combined motor/control units are not uncommon in industrial applications and work there. Those little fan units we use on ESC's and in or computers are built like that. Its hard to tell if the rotor is significantly shorter than normal for a 540 sized motor. The picture suggests the ESC section isn't much larger than the Hall sensor and timing plate found on sensored motors, so I suspect the rotor length will be similar. Combining this, a shorty lipo and a low profile servo and you have the potential to fit 1/10th scale electrics into a much smaller platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITO Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I really like this, depending what it costs I might give it a go in one of mine. The only thing that concerns me a bit is that it is only splash proof! The motor is usually far more exposed than the esc so maybe its more for on road than off road basher useage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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