jake1*2011 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Do you know if the drive shafts are stronger in the mini 8ight t compared to the buggy? I converted my buggy to a truggy quite some time ago but have the issue of the extra weight of the wheels and the added power of a 28mm motor just snap driveahafts with ease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) Just put verniers on it, and the dogbones are 3.4mm diameter. Central driveshaft looks nice and beefy. Been looking in my spares box and I found a Hobbyking 45A brushless ESC which was on my crawler before switching to a 55t brushed setup. Do you reckon it will do for the Velineon 380 or do I need more oooompph! Edited June 20, 2014 by ninjagaiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalin4u24 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 found a Hobbyking 45A brushless ESC which was on my crawler before switching to a 55t brushed setup. Do you reckon it will do for the Velineon 380 or do I need more oooompph! It will do: Velineon 380 50,000 rpm 25a constant / 50a burst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Pinions! i got some Novak ones 14,15 and 16t 0.5 mod and a 3/18 bore in a set a while back and never used them if you get stuck pm me and will work something out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 Guys Here are some pics as promised: Top view - it's big for a mini! Size comparison with my DEX410 - it's really not far off 1:10 scale! See how the rear wing koos kind of small compared to the truggy body There's quite a bit of space round the motor, for dropping in a 380 can. I reckon even a 2858 can would fit as well, though you would need to relocate the ESC. The shock towers seem to be made of aluminium. Nice and tough! I like the minimal parallelogram steering setup suspension arms nice and beefy, as are the dogbones and turnbuckles. CVDs would have been nice! Beefy hub carriers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroholic Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 For hte motor...check how much space between the can and the chassis plate... that was where the Mini8 caused issues. There was room behind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Aside from the motor issues that actually looks a lot beefier overall than the buggy version. Wonder how it will hold up to a good beating, provided the motor lasts long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silone74 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Been reading about rod end issuse the same as the buggy, I think waiting for a used one might be the plan for me then see about a leopard 4 pole sticking in there if people are having no problems fitting 380 motors thats what I would choose. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Nothing major, RPM ones are cheap anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silone74 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Yep to be fare I would put them on any way, the only way to see is keep watching reviews and see how it holds up, some are complaining of the screws being made of cheese and rounding off too easily also, only time will tell Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 Haven't had to do any wrenching yet so can't speak to the cheesy screws. I've a set of 4 FTX Vantage rears coming in for bashing, so I can keep the stock wheels for 'Sunday Best' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilson78 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Hi Guys So i picked up my Mini 8ight T yesterday and took it out for a run this morning, I slapped in the stock battery and ran it round the garden, left it to cool down for a couple of hours while i took the wife shopping. When i came home in went the 3s 11.1v and ran it up and down the street for a few fast passes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Hi Guys So i picked up my Mini 8ight T yesterday and took it out for a run this morning, I slapped in the stock battery and ran it round the garden, left it to cool down for a couple of hours while i took the wife shopping. When i came home in went the 3s 11.1v and ran it up and down the street for a few fast passes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilson78 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 No Stock gearing, bought it and never changed the gearing but will be doing now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilson78 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Was told just let it cool down between runs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Mate, I'm going nowhere near 3S until I have a new ESC and a 380 Can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silone74 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) Definitely needs dropping to 11t or 10t even if using 3s. I am wondering why losi dont include the pinions with the truggy it would save alot of messing about and potential damage in the long run? I just need them to be out abit longer to pick one up that might need a new motor, you know some one will sell it instead of replace the motor Si Edited June 23, 2014 by silone74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Well the e-tailers have jacked the prices up since launch date. Guess they wouldn't do that unless there was demand for it. With no 10t pinion in the box, you won;t need to wait long for a frustrated owner and a burned out motor!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Definitely needs dropping to 11t or 10t even if using 3s. I am wondering why losi dont include the pinions with the truggy it would save alot of messing about and potential damage in the long run? I just need them to be out abit longer to pick one up that might need a new motor, you know some one will sell it instead of replace the motor Si Been thinking along the same lines but then I read the 380 don't fit unless you cut the centre brace grind the chassis out a little and loose the pinion guard? Sounds just like to much faffle to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Been thinking along the same lines but then I read the 380 don't fit unless you cut the centre brace grind the chassis out a little and loose the pinion guard? Sounds just like to much faffle to me Yes. There's a lip on the pinion guard that covers the motor plate will need to be trimmed, and the clearance under the motor is 1.6mm on the verniers, so I little will need shaving off the plate, but that's not too much bother. It will be a much better fit for this size vehicle though, and when you consider that the dry weight of a M8T is about 20% less than that of a MERV, it should really shift with the Velineon. I used to own a MERV and this thing handles much better because of the wide track. N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Neighbour just brought round a box of bits I ordered from Modelsport, including the FTX Vantage rear wheels. Here she is with new shoews on. They a few mm narrower and smaller in diameter than the stock wheels, which should help the motor out a little. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silone74 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I would buy second hand and experiment with maybe shimming the motor mount, as long as the centre shaft doesn't get too much of an angle it might work and give the little extra clearance needed for a 28mm motor, a nice milling job done on the chassis would be better than the grinding method also. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilson78 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 So I did not dare run the 3S today, put the stock battery in and it suffer badly from cogging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 So I did not dare run the 3S today, put the stock battery in and it suffer badly from cogging 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silone74 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Grass seems to be a big issue as it is with the buggy, the truggy should handle it but the motor size plays a big part it is too small to cope with the drag on grass, it seems losi only tested on compact dirt tracks that had not much resistance and in there wisdom thought every one would only ever run on hard tracks why would any one want to drive on grass lol, although it gets repeated you shouldn't have to swap the motor I think it is the only sure way if it fits to control temps when running on anything other than a hard surface. A heat sink on the motor might drop the temps slightly and the small fans could help but it still won't stop the strain on the motor. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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