chriswilson78 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Thanks for all the advice, I've ordered a new 10t pinion. That should be here on Thursday along with the new carbon fibre shock tower for the front and rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Thanks for all the advice, I've ordered a new 10t pinion. That should be here on Thursday along with the new carbon fibre shock tower for the front and rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilson78 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I ordered the towers from Modelsport when ordering the pinion, I rang the ordering in and was taking to the guys on the phone and they said they had one in so I though sod it and its on its way lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Be interested to see how you get on with the 10t pinion. The guys on RCtech all seem to run on hard packed dirt tracks rather than grass, but they are getting OK temps with the 10t on 2S lipos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The stock pinion is a 14 so dropping it to a 10 is going to decrease the speed some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 But less cogging and more wheelies! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake1*2011 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I might just convert my mini 8ight to a truggy again, I was able to run it on a 16t pinion with a 2s lipo without any heat issues! Was also a lot faster then my losi 8ight t 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilson78 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Ok so quick update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 That don't go well then as Losi state that for 3s running they recommend a 10t pinion ?? Shame about the towers but i had an idea that would be the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilson78 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Losi actually recommend the 11t pinion but M/Sport had non in stock so went for the 10t Need a cooling head and now sat here considering the 2S pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Oh sorry thought it was a 10 but 1 tooth surely wont make a huge difference ?? I have read folks are having a tough time of it on 2s as well sad to say.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) OK. Quick update from me. My Velineon 380 motor arrived today, together with a 16t 48dp 3.2mm shaft pinion. I stripped out the old motor, had to lever the pinion off, and fitted the Velineon to the motor mount. Tried dropping it into the chassis and it was nowhere near fitting. So I got my sandpaper and file out and spent about 2 hours slowly removing material off the chassis plate. Eventually the motor squeezed in but with the 16t pinion I could not set the mesh to my liking - either the motor is not sitting straight in the mount, or the 48DP pinion won't mesh with the 0.5 mod spur, or both! Also with the 16t pinion on there is not much room for lateral adjustment to set the pinion mesh. So I have to wait for my 0.5 mod pinion set to arrive from the U,S of A before I can proceed, which is probably going to be another week! Edited June 26, 2014 by ninjagaiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silone74 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) You can get pinions from here that are pretty good, abit pricey but good pinions and a good size selectionhttp://www.smartteknik.se/uk/pinongear/pinion-for-3-2-mm-shaft-1.html Have you got any vernier to get an exact measurement of the motor I can then check the lc racing and leopard motor to compare, I know there all 28mm cans but some are slightly bigger. Si Edited June 26, 2014 by silone74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 You can get pinions from here that are pretty good, abit pricey but good pinions and a good size selectionhttp://www.smartteknik.se/uk/pinongear/pinion-for-3-2-mm-shaft-1.html Have you got any vernier to get an exact measurement of the motor I can then check the lc racing and leopard motor to compare, I know there all 28mm cans but some are slightly bigger. Si It is 28.1mm on the verniers. I am worried that I won;t have room on the motor mount to mesh with the stock spur gear, and I won;t know until my pinions arrive. The M8 has a smaller stock spur, which gives a bit more room to set the mesh. Are there any other 26mm cans around at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silone74 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 The perfect motors are no longer produced, I have one in my m8 they are 26mm castle cm26 if you can find one now get it, I have tge 6800kv and it is fast on a 14t pinion but they are hard to come by. I can't think of any others I might be wrong but het motors are 26mm but I am not sure if they are available now either? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Well I'm really cheesed off at the moment. There's nothing I can do to progress my build right now, and even getting things like the mod 0.5 spurs and pinions seems hard unless you are in the US. I am now thinking I will leave the losi box stock for use with a NiMH pack until I go to the US in September, and then pick up a load of parts. One thing I might look for is a motor heatsink that fits on the stock motor. I actually ordered an EMB-1 kit which was going cheap, and I think I'll used the velineon motor for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silone74 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) I know there 24mm motors but the 4 poles on the same site as the pinions I linked to are pretty good and would run cooler being 4 pole, I run the 2838 in my emb I will measure it properly when i get a chance http://www.smartteknik.se/uk/brushless-motors/ Si Edited June 27, 2014 by silone74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Much better news today! I was having a look at my EMB-1 kit and I saw that it comes with 3 pinions. A quick google search showed that the EMB-1 also uses mod 0.5 gears, but the default motor is a 380 can with a 3.2mm shaft. So I took the smallest pinion from the EMB1 kit and fitted it to the velineon. I took some time to set the mesh and line up the motor mount. It just works with the stock spur! The 380 motor size means that it is pulling on the motor mount, so it's best to tighten the top bolt first. With the mod 0.5 pinion the mesh runs much more smoothly. I then tried the top plate and gear cover and was surprised to see that they went on without needing any sanding down. Even the lip of the gear cover sits on the Velineon motor! This weekend I will swap out the ESC and see how it goes. 17t pinion, 60t spur at 4000kv with slightly smaller wheels should be perfect for 2s lipo. I also have a nice shiny new EMB-1 kit to build up - might take it with me on holiday as everything I need including oils and grease is in the box. I'll try and get some macro pictures for the M8T motor install up for you guys soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilson78 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 OOOOH Well its all gone wrong tonight !!! 4th time out and it started with the cars AVC not running well. I picked the car up of the floor and when you moved it left to right the wheels moved but the motor kicked in at full speed and when centred they stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Dropped in my X-Car 45A ESC today with hte Velineon motor and gave it a quick run in the back garden Difference is like night and day! The pinion is bigger than I would like but it still picks up the truggy and flings it along on a 2200Mah 2S 40c MERV sized pack. There's no cogging either. There was enough torque that the The front wheels were starting to lift. Unfortunately the set screw on the pinion started to back out as it wasn't tightened down with loctite. Edited July 1, 2014 by ninjagaiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 OOOOH Well its all gone wrong tonight !!! 4th time out and it started with the cars AVC not running well. I picked the car up of the floor and when you moved it left to right the wheels moved but the motor kicked in at full speed and when centred they stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilson78 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Dropped in my X-Car 45A ESC today with hte Velineon motor and gave it a quick run in the back garden Difference is like night and day! The pinion is bigger than I would like but it still picks up the truggy and flings it along on a 2200Mah 2S 40c MERV sized pack. There's no cogging either. There was enough torque that the The front wheels were starting to lift. Unfortunately the set screw on the pinion started to back out as it wasn't tightened down with loctite. Glad you've got yours sorted, you'll have to post some pics soon, then I can mod mine up. At the moment mine is looking a bit sorry for itself ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjagaiden Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 I got the pinion back on mine, and set up my gymkhana track in the back garden, that I normally use for my DEX410. I can tell you this, the chassis of the M8T is absolutely dialled in. Even though I have more power in my 410, I can lap my Gymkhana track quicker on the M8T with the velineon motor fitted, and 2S power. Also after a 5 minute blast the motor temp was a respectable 31.8C, and it's 24C outside at the moment. I'll stick a 380 size heatsink in there at some point and stop worrying about motor temps. Also my Novak pinions have arrived so I sill probably fit a smaller pinion to get that 'demented terrier' type of acceleration I like in a mini. They really need to do a roller chassis of the M8T. You can see all the stuff that's been written about the leccy bits (and the nasty AViCii business that Chris had), but the chassis itself is definitely a keeper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 A roller or even a kit version would be cool. I'd be very tempted by a kit myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 A roller or even a kit version would be cool. I'd be very tempted by a kit myself. If i could find a roller or a kit i'd have one tomorrow but im just not willing to fork out on there crap electrics to just remove them and bin 'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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