Nick Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 HPI's leading retailer, Modelsport UK are now taking orders for the Savage Octane XL for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hebby Posted March 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2014 Wow that's a lot Will wait till price drops a bit 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QRC Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Hmm, price, that's going to put a lot of people off purchasing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hebby Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 May even see how much they are in the states and have my sister send me one over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.K Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's a lot o' dollar for a 1:8 that's fo sho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomr Posted March 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2014 I thought Traxxas where king of silly prices ! Come on HPI sort your prices out ! It can't be costing much to produce the savage xl it's been around for years and that little 15cc surely doesn't cost as much as a zenoah 26cc just can't work out what they are charging so much for ? Price needs to come down 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazkopat Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Too much money for a 1/8th scale, I'll put an extra few hundred and go a for 1/5th scale with a bigger engine instead. Is the 15cc engine a tapered fit just like the losi octane 1/8th or an oring shaped then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamminracer Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Wow that price is quite high - then you have to run around trying to find octane to run this thing Losi will do better in sales - straight up petrol in their LST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistonhead Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) The HPI is a ringed engine, so a proper petrol two stroke, whereas the Losi doesn't and is just a modified nitro. Octane isn't a fuel, the quality of petrol is measured on it's Octane Rating. The higher the Octane number, the cleaner and cooler it will burn and make more power, though it's not really noticeable on low - mid range two stroke engines such as these, Edited March 12, 2014 by Pistonhead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choconutjoe Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 That price has to come down over time. For another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazkopat Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The HPI is a ringed engine, so a proper petrol two stroke, whereas the Losi doesn't and is just a modified nitro. Octane isn't a fuel, the quality of petrol is measured on it's Octane Rating. The higher the Octane number, the cleaner and cooler it will burn and make more power, though it's not really noticeable on low - mid range two stroke engines such as these, So losi is just a modified nitro meaning that it has a tapered fit which is exactly the same as a nitro engine. How long will a losi modified engine last before it needs a new build then? this losi engine seems to be pants then I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistonhead Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It seems to go well enough judging by their running video during Nuremburg. Screams like a nitro too, but not what i want from a petrol, tbh i want a petrol to sound like petrol, which the Savage does, just slightly higher pitched due to it being smaller capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Out in April, not the 1st by any chance ...? !! Sorry, somebody had to say it. For the initiative, I do wish them luck. The price is basically what people are prepared to pay for it in the end. Initially I suppose its a calculation based on development, manufacturing and distribution costs ... Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushboy2004 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I wonder if they will sell a conversion kit for us nitro and flux owners in the future. Wonder how much of the original savage parts are useable to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 HPIs original idea was that the engine would "drop in" to Savages, Trophies etc. However after years of failing R&D, that isn't a reality anymore. I can't see this fitting in anything other than the Octane itself. It's a stepping stone though, yeah it is a huge price tag but HPI have spent years R&Ding this and while it doesn't look like much to soem, they no doubt have a lot of data on what does and doesn't work, so when they do go on to building the next small petrol model, they will be leaps ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushboy2004 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 be interesting to see the exploded part manuals when they come out to work out if parts are interchangeable. i.e. take out the middle of a nitro and swap in middle from octane, looking at the pictures that are floating about I would guess - TVP, engine, fuel, tank, radio box servo mounts, gearbox and drive shafts. Parts will be available via a eBay chopshops soon after release, but will it cheaper option for existing owners. I am saving my pennies either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhopper Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I watched them testing this model last week, it goes well and sounds very nice. I had no idea it would be quite that expensive though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossyra Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiLLiE Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Is it not strange how the rrp for both the losi and the hpi octanes are the same , but we have to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroholic Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I thought Traxxas where king of silly prices ! Come on HPI sort your prices out ! It can't be costing much to produce the savage xl it's been around for years and that little 15cc surely doesn't cost as much as a zenoah 26cc just can't work out what they are charging so much for ? Price needs to come down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm seriously thinking of getting one on the day of release, I've had lots of hpi models & I've really enjoyed them, surely it's not that bad a gamble? It must be ready I can't see hpi releasing it as a lemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm seriously thinking of getting one on the day of release, I've had lots of hpi models & I've really enjoyed them, surely it's not that bad a gamble? It must be ready I can't see hpi releasing it as a lemon. If you do, I am sure it will be a great car its not a gamble it is just a lot of money for what other cars can be had for. I am sure I speak for the whole forum when I say, if you do get one, please put a review up on here as soon as possible 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'll have a meeting with the financial advisor later ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharrel Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I have a feeling that when prices of these things come way down, Nitro racing will be completely replaced by 1/8th scale petrols. Now to just wait until these engines are used in 1/8th scale buggies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipflop313 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 A savage is alot bivger than a 1/8th buggy so i doubt u will see one in a buggy anytime soon. I was considering getting one of these if there wer around 600. I think i will be getting a dbxl instead now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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