indotoraja Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 23/09/2018 at 13:32, OllieNZ said: These should be the correct o-ring for the spur to drive cup part: https://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product/H89002-1/hobao-hyper-9-diff-o-rings You also need a paper gasket to seal the spur to the diff case: https://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product/H89004/hobao-hyper-9-differential-case Unfortunately to get the gasket you've got to buy the diff case, you could always buy a sheet of 0.5mm gasket paper and cut your own. If you were feeling particularly keen you could draw it up on the computer then print it onto the gasket paper to give you an accurate outline to cut on. done! thanks for your suggestion ollie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Can you buy larger MT wheels and a truggy/truck shell to turn this into a capable off-roader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 Just now, Nickarla said: Can you buy larger MT wheels and a truggy/truck shell to turn this into a capable off-roader? Define capable off roader? It will never have the wheel travel of a truggy due to the short suspension arms but with bigger tyres you'll gain more ground clearance. Getting the correct wheel offset will be critical to make sure you don't get tyre rub. The width and wheel base means you could use a 1/10sct shell but I suppose a truggy/MT shell is probably more what you're after, those I've not got a clue about as 1/8th truggies and MTs have a longer wheelbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Just being able to go off road with greater ground clearance would be what I was after. I have FTX Bugsta at the moment and was looking at something tougher. The Haboa seems to be a proven, durable and very well made car, just a shame they all seem to be buggies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Nickarla said: Just being able to go off road with greater ground clearance would be what I was after. I have FTX Bugsta at the moment and was looking at something tougher. The Haboa seems to be a proven, durable and very well made car, just a shame they all seem to be buggies. An 1/8th buggy has much better clearance than the 1/10 stuff, I find mine does well even in longish grass. Have you checked out the Hobao SSTe truggy and MTe monster truck? I've got a set of MT tyres in the shed I can throw on mine to see how they fit/look if that's any help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) I haven’t. Where do you buy them from in the Uk? Edited September 30, 2018 by Nickarla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 https://www.modelsport.co.uk/hobao-hyper-sste-truggy-1-8th-scale-electric-rolling-chassis/rc-car-products/379171 https://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product/HBMTE-C150BU/hobao-hyper-mt-sport-plus-elec-rtr-w-hw150a-esc-18kg-servo-blue Other retailers may also offer them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) Thanks. I did know about the Modelsport one, I’m just getting confused with the lettering, SS, TT, is there a ST, an SST mentioned above? Some are nitro only some are both, some are better built than other etc. The MT is too expensive at that price for me unfortunately. How would a SST compare to a Tekno MT or the Proline MT in terms of durability/quality materials? Edited September 30, 2018 by Nickarla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Nickarla said: Thanks. I did know about the Modelsport one, I’m just getting confused with the lettering, SS, TT, is there a ST, an SST mentioned above? Some are nitro only some are both, some are better built than other etc. The MT is too expensive at that price for me unfortunately. How would a SST compare to a Teknik MT or the Proline MT in terms of durability/quality materials? The SS/SSe is a buggy and spec wise is a step down from the VS/VSe. The ST is the older truggy design and is nitro only, the SST/SSTe is a newer platform and available in both nitro and electric. The TT is a 1/10 truggy. I'd say the SST is probably more durable than the Proline MT as it's a 1/10 and doesn't seem to hold up well to being used with 1/8 scale power systems. I'm assuming you mean the Tekno 410 MT? If so then that's a superior vehicle to the SST as it's a true 1/8 MT and built like a brick outhouse by one of the top brands in the industry bit if the Hobao MT is too expensive then the 410 will make your eyes water at the cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) I googled the Tekno (sorry spell check didn’t like that earlier) and couldn’t find any for sale. Would a 1:10 system work in the SST? I have a HW 3300kv brushless. Would that be too weedy? Are parts readily available for all variants? Edited September 30, 2018 by Nickarla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Be careful with the SSTe, I was close to pressing the button on one a few months back, but having watched a few reviews it seems certain parts are made of cheese. Not a patch on the older ST by all accounts. Think it was Matty over at RC Anonymous who had the most issues with one, as he's a fairly full on basher. Not Kevin Talbot or Rich Duperbash full on, but not exactly kind to his RCs either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Nickarla said: I googled the Tekno (sorry spell check didn’t like that earlier) and couldn’t find any for sale. Would a 1:10 system work in the SST? I have a HW 3300kv brushless. Would that be too weedy? Are parts readily available for all variants? Not 100% sure if there's anyone selling the Tekno in the UK or not, as the ones that I've seen have been purchased via amain and work out to around £500 they only come as a chassis kit and you need to add wheels/tyres/body/motor/pinion/esc/servo/Rx/Tx probably looking at £800+ by the time it's RTR. Spares for the Hobao stuff are readily available from from the usual suspects. I've had more issues with getting spares for my HPI truggy flux than my VSe. You need an 1/8 motor (4068/4074) and esc (120a min) especially for a truggy due to the weight, the step up from 1/10 to 1/8 is not just physical size but the sheer amount of beef and that goes into an 1/8 vehicle which pumps up the weight massively. You'd cook a 1/10 motor in short order unless it's a sub 3000kv 3674 in one of the lighter buggies (which the VSe is not) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 Also threw one of the MT wheels on the VSe..... Gearing would definitely have to be addressed They clear all the arms nicely with no rubbing It clears the shell on full lock at ride height but hits when compressed, I also doubt it would clear the shell on the left rear due to the exhaust bulge (the nitro and electric share the same shell) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 That looks good, especially if a truggy she’ll could be fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 2 hours ago, bertberr said: Be careful with the SSTe, I was close to pressing the button on one a few months back, but having watched a few reviews it seems certain parts are made of cheese. Not a patch on the older ST by all accounts. Think it was Matty over at RC Anonymous who had the most issues with one, as he's a fairly full on basher. Not Kevin Talbot or Rich Duperbash full on, but not exactly kind to his RCs either. That’s the thing, is that ‘cheese’ compared to cheese or chalk. In other words are the cheesy parts in direct comparison to other similarly priced cars from the likes of Traxxas and HPI etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capri-boy Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Ok - I've owned the SSTe (and cage truggy - same platform) - and it's one to avoid. The driveshafts are too thin, and the chassis flexible. Hobao have strengthened the lower arms to help protect the driveshafts but owners are still bending them and torque twist with 6S. The newest SST's have grey metal parts which are allegedly stronger.... but owners are still bending centre shafts (due to chassis flex). As mentioned it's not a patch on the ST (especially the Pro). I love most things Hobao - but would never recommend the SST / Cage truggy. The SS buggy platform was similarly flawed but shorter arms and smaller wheels helped. The SSTe does however have one of the nicest truggy shell designs ever and the cage truggy looks the dogs danglies. Ignore the logo design I've been playing with: Fwiw - The VS platform replaced the SS - there is no truggy based off the VS hence there still pushing the SST based on the SS. The MT is a unique chassis (but still uses part bin specials from the H7!). MT wheels on a buggy isn't a great idea - the extra rotating mass will destroy your drive train and you'll need offset wheels and extended hexes. A 1/8 buggy with aggressive offroad wheels (like nanda blocks / badlands) will eat up terrain that a 1/10 truggy will struggle with - ride height prob isn't massively different but powaaaaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 If FTX can do it with the Vantage, Carnage and Bugsta surely the Hobao would be ok? Good to know about the SSTe. My mate has a Habao buggy, not sure which one though, and the ground clearance is noticeably lower than my Bugsta and too low for where I want to use it. Would this be better than the more expensive SSTe? https://www.modelsport.co.uk/hobao-hyper-vs-1-8-buggy-electric-roller/rc-car-products/396617 https://www.modelsport.co.uk/hobao-hyper-sste-truggy-1-8th-scale-electric-rolling-chassis/rc-car-products/379171 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, Nickarla said: If FTX can do it with the Vantage, Carnage and Bugsta surely the Hobao would be ok? Good to know about the SSTe. My mate has a Habao buggy, not sure which one though, and the ground clearance is noticeably lower than my Bugsta and too low for where I want to use it. Would this be better than the more expensive SSTe? https://www.modelsport.co.uk/hobao-hyper-vs-1-8-buggy-electric-roller/rc-car-products/396617 https://www.modelsport.co.uk/hobao-hyper-sste-truggy-1-8th-scale-electric-rolling-chassis/rc-car-products/379171 As Capri mentioned it's to do with the mass of the wheels, that MT tyre my pic nearly weighs the same as all 4 buggy tyres put together. Imo if a buggy can hack the MT tyres then it's the VS, that thing is more heavily built than my HPI Trophy Truggy that donated the wheel. There's a couple of weak spots that I think would be exposed with heavy bashing and some stuff would likely wear out quicker but overall I think with a couple of upgrades it has the potential to still be reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just spotted this. Does this seem like a good buy? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/hobao-hyper-7-tq-rolling-chassis-brushless-ready-see-pictures/362443035291?hash=item546349d29b:g:SNwAAOSw6-tbqQNT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Anyone? Are these worth getting or would it be better to pay more for a new VS. A £100 more better spent? https://www.modelsport.co.uk/hobao-hyper-vs-1-8-buggy-electric-roller/rc-car-products/396617 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Nickarla said: Anyone? Are these worth getting or would it be better to pay more for a new VS. A £100 more better spent? https://www.modelsport.co.uk/hobao-hyper-vs-1-8-buggy-electric-roller/rc-car-products/396617 The H7 is a good buggy but the VS is better speccd. Adding a cheap set of big bore shocks to replace the older small bores on the H7 so it would match the VS will cost over £50, iirc the Hobao ones are £50-£60 a pair. The VSe is also set up to be electric from the factory, so no need to mess with battery trays, servo mounts, motor mounts. If you could get an H7 that's been e converted and is RTR for around the £150 mark then I'd say that's probably a good deal but nearly £100 for a used roller? I'd pay the extra for the VSe roller every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Good to know...plus the VSe is new and not used. Also what is parts support like compared to the H7? Edited October 2, 2018 by Nickarla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickarla Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) MT wheels on a buggy isn't a great idea - the extra rotating mass will destroy your drive train and you'll need offset wheels and extended hexes. A 1/8 buggy with aggressive offroad wheels (like nanda blocks / badlands) will eat up terrain that a 1/10 truggy will struggle with - ride height prob isn't massively different but powaaaaa! What is the drivetrain made of? Are the MT drivetrains harder metal? Edited October 2, 2018 by Nickarla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capri-boy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Nickarla said: What is the drivetrain made of? Are the MT drivetrains harder metal? MT's F+R diffs are noticeably chunkier than the H7 ones that the VS uses (same internals though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Nickarla said: Good to know...plus the VSe is new and not used. Also what is parts support like compared to the H7? Both seem good, a bit more aftermarket for the H7 due to the age. 9 hours ago, Nickarla said: What is the drivetrain made of? Are the MT drivetrains harder metal? Same metal but the diff ring and pinions are beefier and the axles are normally thicker. MTs also usually use a slipper clutch rather than a center diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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