OllieNZ Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Hi All, When researching before I bought mine I struggled to find much info or any experience of these wee beasties. Hopefully we can remedy that. So please chime in with your experiences, tips, trials and tribulations and any other handy info or just show off your buggy. For those not aware of the Hyper VS here is some basic info: It's an 1/8 scale buggy that comes in Nitro and Electric form. Each is also available as an almost ready to run roller kit without electrics/radio/motor and a clear shell. Rough specs: Length: 460mm Width: 306mm Height: 140mm Wheelbase: 322mm Weight: 3600g Approx (varies between electric and nitro) RTR Nitro Kit Electric Kit Some handy links VS Manual : http://hobao-racing.com/en/images/pro_file/20150901204953@Hyper VS Instruction Manual.pdf VS Exploded View : http://hobao-racing.com/en/images/pro_file/20150901204953@Hyper VS Exploded View.pdf VS Parts List : http://hobao-racing.com/en/images/pro_file/20150901204953@Hyper VS Parts List.pdf VSe Exploded View : http://hobao-racing.com/en/images/pro_file/20150901210926@Hyper VSe Exploded View.pdf VSe Parts List : http://hobao-racing.com/en/images/pro_file/20150901210926@Hyper VSe Parts List.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Also for interest I weighed everything that came in the kit to give a base weight for the electric version without servo, esc, receiver or motor. Chassis complete with wing and wheel nuts: 2108g Motor mounting plate, hardware and 15t pinion: 32g Unpainted body with clips: 70g 4x Wheels assembled with tyres and foams: 477g For a grand total of: 2687g 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Hmmm.... Interesting I'll compare that to one of my hyper 7's, there's no way a vs is going to be more than a H7... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 10 hours ago, bertberr said: Hmmm.... Interesting I'll compare that to one of my hyper 7's, there's no way a vs is going to be more than a H7... It will certainly be interesting to see.... Another thought I've just had is, iirc the centre diff assy is the same on the VS as the 7. If that's the case then it may be possible to use a VSe motor mount to do an electric conversion on a 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Yes I think you're right there as isn't the vs mount just a nicer coloured ss mount? And front and rear diffs themselves are the same too I believe, just the diff/gearbox cases that are different, more hyper 8 shape iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, bertberr said: Yes I think you're right there as isn't the vs mount just a nicer coloured ss mount? And front and rear diffs themselves are the same too I believe, just the diff/gearbox cases that are different, more hyper 8 shape iirc. The front and rear diffs are definitely the same as the 7 and according to their respective IPC's the SSe and VSe motor mounts have the same part number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Very similar as it turns out... My single tray H7 comes in at 2177g inc. motor mount and painted jconcepts illusion body. About 500g for a set of Nanda blocks and we're pretty much bang on compared to the VS, though my 7 does have loads of CNC Ali bits on it, which weigh more, so perhaps the 7 is a tads lighter in std form. Still weighs a ton mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 17 hours ago, bertberr said: Very similar as it turns out... My single tray H7 comes in at 2177g inc. motor mount and painted jconcepts illusion body. About 500g for a set of Nanda blocks and we're pretty much bang on compared to the VS, though my 7 does have loads of CNC Ali bits on it, which weigh more, so perhaps the 7 is a tads lighter in std form. Still weighs a ton mind... I certainly wouldn't want to take one to the ankle, even at relatively low speed. This is my first 1/8 buggy and I just cant get over how massive everything is compared to a 1/10 and the VS also seems well built even by 1/8 buggy standards. How do you find the Nanda blocks? They look like a good alternative to the Proline Badlands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 The tyres themselves are pretty good, but the gluing job on the premounted jobbies isn't that great, pot luck really as to how long they'll last, just be prepared to re-glue them if the need arises. I've got the proper PL badlands on one of my SCT's, and they are nice, not sure they're worth the extra though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 ESC turned up yesterday from China in record time, less than 7 days from pressing the order button on ebay to my front door Weighed in before fitting In the car for a test fit with the batteries and servo Speaking of the servo, the servo bracket seems to be a rather poor design my servo has the cable exiting out the side near the base (as do most from my googling) and the servo bracket fits flush to the sides of the servo, I'm either going to have to take a chunk out of the bracket out or mod the servo to have the cable out of the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evssv Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 jus drill a hole for the servo wire to go through....uwill obv have to remove the plug.....jus remember with way the wires go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 31/01/2018 at 14:35, OllieNZ said: ESC turned up yesterday from China in record time, less than 7 days from pressing the order button on ebay to my front door Weighed in before fitting In the car for a test fit with the batteries and servo Speaking of the servo, the servo bracket seems to be a rather poor design my servo has the cable exiting out the side near the base (as do most from my googling) and the servo bracket fits flush to the sides of the servo, I'm either going to have to take a chunk out of the bracket out or mod the servo to have the cable out of the bottom. I know all about the servo mount, i had to cut a little off it fit my servo......pain in the hoop! Also the battery and esc tray are quite small, it can sometimes be a pain to fit the battery and wiring under the body. The car seems pretty tough though as i have yet to break mine.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just wanted to say good choice with the ESC, i have two and they perform great although the LVC setting on them are never accurate so you will have to mess around with the settings to get things right. Also a note on the Nandas, i've used them for years but they come unglued and the foams break down and turn to dust lol....you get what you pay for... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 Hi @RCpete, I was hoping you'd chime in Those hobbywing ESC's are well rated where ever they're mentioned and for the money it seemed a no brainer. I'm still waiting for the motor, I've gone with a 2250kv 4076 Cheers for the tips, how hard are the Nandas to unglue from new? I've also read the wheels that come with them aren't brilliant so I'm considering ordering a set and ripping them off and gluing them onto the Hobao wheels (or another set of rims). Also do you mind sharing any shots of yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavster29 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Hi @OllieNZ I can also confirm that the Hobbywing ESC is a cracking bit of kit, I have the WP-8BL150 also and it is running 6S on my 2000KV Leopard in my Hyper 7, without any issue! Tyre wise I have the Nando blocks and although cheap and cheerful if you glue them properly they hold out fine on the rims (I got mine from Modelsport so assuming we are talking the same), I boiled mine to get the old glue off and then re-gluing them, I also have a cheap set of wheels and tyres from eBay and again if you glue them properly they seem OK, I was running them on 6S at the weekend and it was a savage beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, Gavster29 said: Hi @OllieNZ I can also confirm that the Hobbywing ESC is a cracking bit of kit, I have the WP-8BL150 also and it is running 6S on my 2000KV Leopard in my Hyper 7, without any issue! Tyre wise I have the Nando blocks and although cheap and cheerful if you glue them properly they hold out fine on the rims (I got mine from Modelsport so assuming we are talking the same), I boiled mine to get the old glue off and then re-gluing them, I also have a cheap set of wheels and tyres from eBay and again if you glue them properly they seem OK, I was running them on 6S at the weekend and it was a savage beast! If the wheels are ok I'll just reglue them when they come off. Hopefully I'll get to 6s later in the year, I bought 2 new fluoreon 2s packs just before Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavster29 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 The tyres will come off very quickly, or at least part of them will, I would really do the gluing before they come off as it will ruin your first bit of fun on the first outing. 6S is mad, I have been running 5S up until this weekend but picked up 2x 6S LiPo bricks for £30 last week but also changed my pinion to a 20t instead of 17t and I have to say it is great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, OllieNZ said: Hi @RCpete, I was hoping you'd chime in Those hobbywing ESC's are well rated where ever they're mentioned and for the money it seemed a no brainer. I'm still waiting for the motor, I've gone with a 2250kv 4076 Cheers for the tips, how hard are the Nandas to unglue from new? I've also read the wheels that come with them aren't brilliant so I'm considering ordering a set and ripping them off and gluing them onto the Hobao wheels (or another set of rims). Also do you mind sharing any shots of yours? i'll hopefully get some pics up later, is it a hobbywing motor aswell? Providing you dont go crazy with gearing you should be fine with temps, also 4s should be plenty on this setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 05/02/2018 at 17:25, RCpete said: i'll hopefully get some pics up later, is it a hobbywing motor aswell? Providing you dont go crazy with gearing you should be fine with temps, also 4s should be plenty on this setup. Nah, just a cheap ebay black can, That way if I don't like it or kill it playing with gearing it's no big loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 Finally had the chance to finish up the car (mechanically) and give it a quick 30 sec test blast. Still need to decide on a paint scheme for the body. As it stands.... Spec list for mine ESC: QuicRun 8BL150 Radio: FlySky GT3C Servo: TGY1501 Motor: Black Can 4076 2250Kv The final weigh in.... plus the batteries For a grand total of 3728g, so definitely quite a heavy beast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Looking good, when's the first dirt run? Just a tip, careful how much you post, it could get you banned for reasons unknown to anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Smoothybb said: Looking good, when's the first dirt run? Just a tip, careful how much you post, it could get you banned for reasons unknown to anyone. I was hoping to get out this afternoon but the weather isn't playing ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 37 minutes ago, OllieNZ said: I was hoping to get out this afternoon but the weather isn't playing ball. Nice looking setup Ollie, you'll have a blast when you get out in some decent weather lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, RCpete said: Nice looking setup Ollie, you'll have a blast when you get out in some decent weather lol... Cheers Pete Any thoughts on the settings for the ESC? I've only set the lipo cell count setting so far, the brake felt good on the wet tarmac but I'm wondering about the punch? It's currently around 50% (level 5/9) and it felt a bit slow TBH. What do people normally do? Crank it to the max and turn it down if needed? Or bring it up a notch at a time until you feel it's as quick as you can handle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 When you say slow do you mean top speed or acceleration? Punch controls acceleration so if its a bit slow on the take off maybe notch it up a level or two. If its top speed your looking for try changing the gearing.....but dont go crazy. I changed the stock spur from the 48 to a 46 and run a 19 pinion, with 2000kv motor on 4s its plenty fast for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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