BUDFORCE Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) Let me see........ Repairs: 3rd set of pinion and spur gear (now using the metal ones recomended in this thread) about 5 sets of rear drive shaft (had terrible luck with metal ones destroying themselves) both front side drive shafts front shock burst basically all of the rear suspension broke and replaced with alloy parts inlcuding the rear sway bar twice rear diff housing snapped steering servo "e-clip" various grub screws dislodged, mainly on the driveshaft main chassis broke where it conencts to the trailing arm chassis mounts, and replaced with aluminmium one foam in original wheels disintergrated to ****, so new set of wheels Upgraded: Servo Motor heat sink In all honesty there is probably more to go on that list I have forgotten about. EDIT: I will add below when I think of more: Rear diff shaft broke and replaced Edited July 2, 2021 by BUDFORCE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetoR Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Outlaw Life!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain .R Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Where the fun in just bashing an bashing charging lipos bashing charging lipos it be soo boring .mmmmm ha han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Boring start to the day, retaining screw shared off in the old drive cup… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: Boring start to the day, retaining screw shared off in the old drive cup… But managed to assemble new shaft onto the old drive fittings in place for now 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) What run runtime you getting on the 3660 motor, i got 20min from a 7000mha 2s on the axe and stock gearing, pretty poor considering i get usally get 3 hours out of the same battery on the lads truck. Axe has come out, probs will go back to my old transmission, less torque twist, more power & much much longer run time. Put some new shoes on his truck and new foams in the front. Running the gmade beadlocks, they hold onto RC4WD Rock Crusher H/T and Traxxas 2.2 Canyons air tight, just the way i like it, no worry about wet foams. The proline 2 stage foams wont fit, but putting taking off the 2nd stage and replacing it with a 1/8th buggy foam they are a very tight but workable fit on the Rock Crushers. They have 0 side wall roll now, the Canyons do side roll somewhat but hes yet to manage to roll it. The rear tires are also slightly smaller than the front tires to overdrive the front a little to make it handle better. Edited July 4, 2021 by Redback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 20 hours ago, Redback said: What run runtime you getting on the 3660 motor Will report back when it’s not constantly lagging down out of the sky… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 20 hours ago, Redback said: Put some new shoes on his truck and new foams in the front. Running the gmade beadlocks, they hold onto RC4WD Rock Crusher H/T and Traxxas 2.2 Canyons air tight, just the way i like it, no worry about wet foams. The proline 2 stage foams wont fit, but putting taking off the 2nd stage and replacing it with a 1/8th buggy foam they are a very tight but workable fit on the Rock Crushers. They have 0 side wall roll now, the Canyons do side roll somewhat but hes yet to manage to roll it. The rear tires are also slightly smaller than the front tires to overdrive the front a little to make it handle better. Looking good 😎👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) @walkbythesea How did you stop the sway bar bending, this was 30 sec into a test. The steel is like rubber, the arms seem ok but that rear bar is just to thin at the ends, did you use the stock metal sway bar? I don't buy ebay / cheap aftermarket stuff and this is my first experience doing so... it hasnt been a positive one, should i be surprised? Edited July 5, 2021 by Redback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) Honestly I decided to live with it until it lets go and then just change the rod for something better - the arms themselves are absolutely brilliant and to be fair it’s not let go yet no matter what I’ve thrown at it Edited July 5, 2021 by walkbythesea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 maybe as im running full plastic rear its just to flexy, if i kept it bent i would have snapped, doesnt improve performance imo, but i have gone back to the little hobbywing combo for some speed and to really test the metal spur. and it always got its rear wheel in the air when breaking and flips on its roof when punching it. mad speed tho with the big wheels that double in size at 50% throttle things shifting. heard some grinding when launching on the road, wondering if the diffs let go as i think im still running with no diff E clip as it vaporized at some point 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Mine is still plastic in back and performance is VERY much improved with the sway kit so go figure 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 maybe its the giant wheels, it doesnt roll when cornering but never did with them, it flips more when punching it so i guess you can say its balancing the power at the back better rather than torque twisting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, Redback said: maybe its the giant wheels, it doesnt roll when cornering but never did with them, it flips more when punching it so i guess you can say its balancing the power at the back better rather than torque twisting. It’s definitely the torque twist that it tames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Presumably you already have a Carnage sway bar on the front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 @Iain .R I understand you're Zorroing your outlaw, can you please measure and advise the size of the zorro body shell. Im wondering its length and width, im guessing its not wide enough to fit over a hyper 7.@walkbythesea I dont as i crawl with this normally the front sway bar would affect its articulation to much, i wanted a better swaybar at the back to cope with the torque twist but its just an Outlaw life for us 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 That steel spur is noisy 🤘😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Just now, walkbythesea said: That steel spur is noisy 🤘😎 Not sure as the grinding at the start i thinks the rear diff spur slipping on the shaft, the grinding when breaking is the front wheels rubbing on the body, the drive train is pretty quiet imo vs my the crawled outlaw and the plastic spur one the axe was far noisier in the grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain .R Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 you please measure and advise the size of the zorro body shell. Im wondering its length and width, im guessing its not wide enough to fit over a hyper from boot to bonnet from underneath 500 or 19 1/2 inch length the car front left wing to right wing 280 or 11 inch rear left wing to rear right wing 290 or 11. 1/2 inch width of the car from floor to roof 160 or 6 .1/4 inch hight of car left rear arch to front arch (where the door would be )190 or 7 .1/2 space between the two wheels rear wheel space 130 or 5. 1/2 inch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain .R Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Well bashing my outlaw to day 3 1/2 batterys later it start to get bit difficult to control as it like one wheel is driving all the power then I spotted it was when I wheeled spinned off on the dirt track only two wheels (back ones ) spin then the left ( I think lol ) was doing all the power . So had a quick look there no drive to the front wheels the back wheels still have drive but nothing on the front . Any ideas as I juat got in and bit nacked to strip it down so before I do tomorrow any thoughts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Iain .R said: Well bashing my outlaw to day 3 1/2 batterys later it start to get bit difficult to control as it like one wheel is driving all the power then I spotted it was when I wheeled spinned off on the dirt track only two wheels (back ones ) spin then the left ( I think lol ) was doing all the power . So had a quick look there no drive to the front wheels the back wheels still have drive but nothing on the front . Any ideas as I juat got in and bit nacked to strip it down so before I do tomorrow any thoughts . The grub screws that hold the drive cups from the gear case forward come undone, the drive cups themselves wear out and let go, after that you’re into the front diff case, either the ring gear for the diff, the pinion bust, or lastly the spider gears inside it, in order of likelihood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain .R Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, walkbythesea said: The grub screws that hold the drive cups from the gear case forward come undone, the drive cups themselves wear out and let go, after that you’re into the front diff case, either the ring gear for the diff, the pinion bust, or lastly the spider gears inside it, in order of likelihood. My man your fantastic you just just reminded me what happend a few weeks ago I had the same thing (might have posted it on here as I stripped it all down only to see the screw come loose ) an for the life of me I could not remember what it was cheers m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4s, 50% throttle Needs downforce and suspension tweaking - lost the front end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redback Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, walkbythesea said: 4s, 50% throttle Needs downforce and suspension tweaking - lost the front end Did you get a video, what you mean lost the front end? to much power to the back? Have you locked up your diffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Redback said: Did you get a video, what you mean lost the front end? to much power to the back? Have you locked up your diffs? Front goes airborne around 45-47mph, needs downforce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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