dirtyhabitz Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 I wasnt aware they were THAT much! Yeah they ain't shy when it comes to pricing. I've had an email back from them about the brackets, they want $120US for 8 brackets Inc shipping. That's around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revo madnesss Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Yeah they ain't shy when it comes to pricing. I've had an email back from them about the brackets, they want $120US for 8 brackets Inc shipping. That's around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1A1H Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Roll cage from mainst is ideal. Obviously a metal one is just stupid. I notices mainst did sell brackets quite cheaply, but not sure any more. If you can make one yourself, go for it. I am considering it too... If the nylon is that cheap, could you link me to it please, maybe we can both give it a go... Only brackets would be a problem, but there is always away around it. As you have found out, any body we buy will not last long, 20 runs or so at most, so roll cages in the long term seem like the most ideal investment, also offering great air flow etc... .but i like a decent body too in order to stop as much debris getting into my drivetrain etc...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revo madnesss Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Roll cage from mainst is ideal. Obviously a metal one is just stupid. I notices mainst did sell brackets quite cheaply, but not sure any more. If you can make one yourself, go for it. I am considering it too... If the nylon is that cheap, could you link me to it please, maybe we can both give it a go... Only brackets would be a problem, but there is always away around it. As you have found out, any body we buy will not last long, 20 runs or so at most, so roll cages in the long term seem like the most ideal investment, also offering great air flow etc... .but i like a decent body too in order to stop as much debris getting into my drivetrain etc...... maybe you can make a roll cage and wrap it with the same materiel outwears use to make there covers, that way you will get best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1A1H Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 true, but i like he look of my savage with a body on... Thing is i do not want to jump my db-17 too much anymore as it will be built for speed runs more so. I would probably make one for my stock xl build..... But if the nylon is really that cheap, and only requires a heat gun to heat up and bend, then i may give it a go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhabitz Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 try make them in cad and have them cnc machined I have thought of that but I think the cost would be to much... Roll cage from mainst is ideal. Obviously a metal one is just stupid. I notices mainst did sell brackets quite cheaply, but not sure any more. If you can make one yourself, go for it. I am considering it too... If the nylon is that cheap, could you link me to it please, maybe we can both give it a go... Only brackets would be a problem, but there is always away around it. As you have found out, any body we buy will not last long, 20 runs or so at most, so roll cages in the long term seem like the most ideal investment, also offering great air flow etc... .but i like a decent body too in order to stop as much debris getting into my drivetrain etc...... But I have an idea brewing bracket-wise. I have a plan on how to make a cage template and the Nylon rod is easily manlleable with a little heat,so all that should be fairly straight forward. The MainST bracket at first seems perfect but,it's angle is fixed so I think there's room for improvment there. Something like this maybe? I think this design could give us much more flexibility with the angle the cage is mounted to the TVP.. I don't know what material the pipe will be yet,but the Nylon rod needs to be a nice snug fit inside it. Any suggestions on what kind of pipe? I was thinking some kind of conduit with a 1mm wall thikness maybe? What do you guys think? Any input would be much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1A1H Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 There is no reason why it couldnt be positioned that way. Im sure you could find something in your local DIY store whch you could fab a bit to make it work??? im going to keep my eyes peeled... also depends on what thickness the nylon bar is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhabitz Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 Heres a couple of links for the Nylon rod.. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-off-NATURAL-NYLON-66-ROUND-BARS-RODS-12mm-x-330mm-/390204481667?pt=UK_BOI_Metalworking_Milling_Welding_Metalworking_Supplies_ET http://www.directplasticsonline.co.uk/Nylon_66_Rod.html This Nylon 66 sounds like the one we need(?) and if it comes in white it can aways be wrapped in black electrical tape before final fitting. I've got an idea for making a template using,wait for it...pipe cleaners! They would make finding the right shape for the cage easy I think. We can even see if it's possible to make a cage that allows a lexan shell to be used Josh. So what do you all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhabitz Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 There is no reason why it couldnt be positioned that way. Im sure you could find something in your local DIY store whch you could fab a bit to make it work??? im going to keep my eyes peeled... also depends on what thickness the nylon bar is... MainST use 12mm rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1A1H Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 how would you use pipe cleaners as a template? i cant picture it? 12mm sounds good... but mainst told me the white nylon was more brittle compared to the black nylon for some reason... So ill go with black just in case... If all goes well i would like to design the nylon rod in a way that protects my battery boxes, and prevents the a arms from flexing too much when cart wheeling. There must be a way I bend way too many drive shafts, and its starting to hurt my wallet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revo madnesss Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 how would you use pipe cleaners as a template? i cant picture it? 12mm sounds good... but mainst told me the white nylon was more brittle compared to the black nylon for some reason... So ill go with black just in case... If all goes well i would like to design the nylon rod in a way that protects my battery boxes, and prevents the a arms from flexing too much when cart wheeling. There must be a way I bend way too many drive shafts, and its starting to hurt my wallet... pipe cleaners are a great idea or just a simple metal rod would do the same josh i think he means to make a mock up of it out of pipe cleaner to get the right shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1A1H Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 yea i get that... im sure it would be hard to get each rod perfectly symmetrical without a template. I guess it helps when making proto types. Gd idea. i may give this a go sooner rather than later.... I was looking at the 10mm rod to save some weight as i may use quite a bit and go for a complicated design if i am making one. This is so cheap 10x3000mm!!!! its very cheap 10x3000mm rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhabitz Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 how would you use pipe cleaners as a template? i cant picture it? 12mm sounds good... but mainst told me the white nylon was more brittle compared to the black nylon for some reason... So ill go with black just in case... If all goes well i would like to design the nylon rod in a way that protects my battery boxes, and prevents the a arms from flexing too much when cart wheeling. There must be a way I bend way too many drive shafts, and its starting to hurt my wallet... LOL send them to me and I'll straighten them for you. I put mine in the vice and put them right,not had to but one yet My plan with the pipe cleaners is simple,twist some 12inch pipe cleaners together so you have a long enough length. Then anchor one end to the TVP (gaffa tape or elastic bands etc) and then bend away and see what shape you end up with. And you can do that over and over until you get a shape that works. You now have a template to work to when your heating and bending your Nylon rod. Does that make any sense? I know what I mean lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhabitz Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 pipe cleaners are a great idea or just a simple metal rod would do the same josh i think he means to make a mock up of it out of pipe cleaner to get the right shape Exactly! Why didn't I put it like that? lol. Metal rod would also work,something like welding rod would be great. I was thinking pipe cleaners as they are really cheap and plentifull. yea i get that... im sure it would be hard to get each rod perfectly symmetrical without a template. I guess it helps when making proto types. Gd idea. i may give this a go sooner rather than later.... I was looking at the 10mm rod to save some weight as i may use quite a bit and go for a complicated design if i am making one. This is so cheap 10x3000mm!!!! its very cheap 10x3000mm rod That is cheap! I think we just might pull this off ya know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1A1H Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 yep i can picture it now Looking for mounting methods now. Cant really find anything... but ill keep looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbringer Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 white nylon is afected by uv radiation ie sunlight , black isnt as susceptable to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1A1H Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 nice1 that was the reason!!! mainst is selling 4 posted for around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhabitz Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 (edited) I think this may work,the top one (1/2 x 18swg) http://www.metals4u....=56&prd_id=2320 I know it's for 3 metres but it's only £7.78 + vat and ship Edited August 15, 2010 by dirtyhabitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1A1H Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Yes that would work, but how would you attach it to the TVPs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhabitz Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 Yes that would work, but how would you attach it to the TVPs? Like in the drawing I posted earlier. Nylon rod tight inside a 25mm long section of the steel pipe and then two bolts (one above the other,10mm apart) right thru the lot inc the TVPs. The steel pipe would act as support and allow us to tighten down the nuts without crushing the Nylon rod inside. It should also be a snap to spin the nuts off and pop the cage off the bolts for servicing. I think this could work but I'll need to make a mock up with the pipe cleaners,or something like them,so I can see about positioning the mounts on the TVPs. Aren't you supposed to be on holiday? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1A1H Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 whoops my mistake... i completely understand what you are getting at. I can see that working very well. Sorry, i was skimming over your threads and pictures... see i am on holiday Still need to keep up to date with my work emails and while im at it i will spend a bit of time reading the threads that interest me I think i will order the 10mm nylon when i get back , and order some 10mm steel pipe. I will keep you posted on my progress... i need to get a decent heat gun i think... a hair dryer wont work will it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzokajoe Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) why not use this: http://www.metals4u....=56&prd_id=2321 and this : http://www.metals4u....d=58&prd_id=443 could do an exact version of the roll cages the guy makes... for a much much lower price... i'm now considering doing one for my hyper... making it into a desert buggy... would really help give it good airflow... could even do it short course style josh... with nerf bars to take side impacts and help protect the arms... Edited August 16, 2010 by Bazzokajoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhabitz Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 I know it sounds silly but the hair dryer might work Josh. We don't need a too "savage" (lol) heat or we might melt thru the nylon. So the hair dryer is worth a shot IMO. If not maybe a decorating heat gun? And Joe,thanks for the links,we have already looked at that supplier and will probably use them. With all of us putting our heads together I'm sure we can make a cage that's better than the MainST ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzokajoe Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 i have a heat gun... and meet up with josh fairly often... best thing to do maybe to using boiling water? shouldnt melt it but should make it pliable enough to bend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhabitz Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) Hot water is a great idea! Watch out MainST here we come lol! Edited August 16, 2010 by dirtyhabitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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