Which 1/10 buggy tyre for loose sandy dirt?

[champ222]

Hi all

 

I have an LC racing 1/14 scale truggy. last summer i ran it in the hills in Sandy and i struggled for grip. 1/10 scale rear buggy tyres fit the wheels, so i'm looking for something to give me more grip. This is not racing, just bashing.

 

The surface is very loose sandy (how the town got its name) surface, I do ok with my 1/8th truggy with proline bowtie/holeshot mix. That could be the extra weight of the car helping to a point.  There are firm muddy spots too, so i dont want to go for paddles or anything like that

 

The LC racing tyres look like this, so quite a shallow tread:

 

 

 

 

Would i be better with something spikey, like Schumacher mini spike? (I did think about full spikes, or the blocks, but blocks are only in CAT sizes, and full spikes are out of stock everywhere) there doesnt seem to be much similar to bowties, with wider blocks on the them to help grip the sandy surface, for 1/10...

 

Any suggestions? I need tyres on there own, to mount to the LC wheels... alternatively, i could use some hub spacers and regular buggy rears all round (or 4wd fronts too i guess).

 

These, for example, look like they have some offset to them already, so i might get away without hub extensions, or minimal at least.

 

https://www.fastrax-rc.com/wheels-tyres/offroad-wheels-tyres/fastrax-1-10th-mounted-cuboid-buggy-rear-tyres-dished

 

Thanks

Edited February 2, 2023 by champ222

[ljp83141]

You have quite a few options.

 

The tires you linked look like they'll do quite well.

 

On the rear of my 2wd 1/10 buggy i use for bashing i run the schumacher Cat Block tires on loose sandy gravel however they were a nightmare to fit on 2.2 inch wheels, they did go on... eventually. but it was tight.

 

I believe the Pro line Blockades were the 1/8th scale block tires that replaced the Bow ties  (or just an alternative). They are also now available as 1/10 buggy rears and are good on loose surfaces. They have taller blocks than the bow ties so would also be a good choice

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/pro-line-blockade-22-m3-soft-buggy-rear-tyres-381149 (Bonus, they are actually in stock)

 

 

Edited February 2, 2023 by ljp83141

[champ222]

Thanks 

 

The LC racing wheels are a bit bigger than the regular 2.2" buggy wheels, so the CAT blocks i dont think would go on. 

 

I saw the blockades, buy they pretty pricey for some reason, but they do look like a good option. not sure i could justify that price though when the schumachers can be had for about half that. they are an expensive option for sure. 

[ljp83141]

i agree, those proline's are very expensive , especially for 4 . The schumacher's are a good deal, just a shame no one has any stock of them.  The pro lines do come with foams, which might explain the price. schumacher tires don't come with foams so your looking at £13 rather than just £9 for a pair. The Proline's  would still cost more either way. If your happy to wait for stock the Schumacher mini spikes or full spikes would work quite well.

Edited February 2, 2023 by ljp83141

[champ222]

i can get these:

 

https://www.fastrax-rc.com/wheels-tyres/offroad-wheels-tyres/fastrax-10th-mounted-buggy-tyres-lp-stub-rear?sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

Should work better than i have now. cheap enough to be worth a try i think. 

[ljp83141]

Sorry, just saw this. i would say so yes, either way they'll be an improvement over what you have on now👍.

[Alex97]

Anything with a deep tread pattern will help. Mini pin style tires might not provide enough grip on sand, I'd be looking for block type tread pattern. 

[champ222]

On 04/02/2023 at 14:06, Alex97 said:

Anything with a deep tread pattern will help. Mini pin style tires might not provide enough grip on sand, I'd be looking for block type tread pattern. 

 

Yeah that would be ideal really.. Its mainly "racing tyres" in 1/10th that i can find... a thousand versions or largely the same thing... i'll keep searching.

 

Thanks

[lorrylemming]

I've got the stingers on my HBX. A little wider offset but they should fit your truggy. The Jigsaws look more offroad specific where as the stingers will also do tarmac without wearing out too fast.

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/fastrax-1-16-jigsaw-tyres-mounted-on-8-spoke-black-wheels-2--425944

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/fastrax-1-16-stinger-tyres-mounted-on-8-spoke-black-wheels-2--425946

 

I've used these on soft dirt and they were great but do wear quickly.

https://www.racing-cars.com/wheels-tyres/off-road-tyres/full-spike-rear-tyres-yellow-2-2-pr-u6596?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dfull%2bspike

[champ222]

21 hours ago, lorrylemming said:

I've got the stingers on my HBX. A little wider offset but they should fit your truggy. The Jigsaws look more offroad specific where as the stingers will also do tarmac without wearing out too fast.

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/fastrax-1-16-jigsaw-tyres-mounted-on-8-spoke-black-wheels-2--425944

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/fastrax-1-16-stinger-tyres-mounted-on-8-spoke-black-wheels-2--425946

 

I've used these on soft dirt and they were great but do wear quickly.

https://www.racing-cars.com/wheels-tyres/off-road-tyres/full-spike-rear-tyres-yellow-2-2-pr-u6596?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dfull%2bspike

Thanks, much appreciated

[champ222]

On 06/02/2023 at 14:47, lorrylemming said:

I've got the stingers on my HBX. A little wider offset but they should fit your truggy. The Jigsaws look more offroad specific where as the stingers will also do tarmac without wearing out too fast.

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/fastrax-1-16-jigsaw-tyres-mounted-on-8-spoke-black-wheels-2--425944

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/fastrax-1-16-stinger-tyres-mounted-on-8-spoke-black-wheels-2--425946

 

I've used these on soft dirt and they were great but do wear quickly.

https://www.racing-cars.com/wheels-tyres/off-road-tyres/full-spike-rear-tyres-yellow-2-2-pr-u6596?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dfull%2bspike

 

Ok, apparently the fastrax tyres weigh around 190 - 200g for a pair in the packet @lorrylemming are you able to confirm this by weighing a wheel for me? The Standard LC racing truggy tyres weigh 120g a pair in the packet.

 

I have some LC truggy wheels with schumacher venom tyres on that weigh 76g each (no packaging), and its fine with those. So double that (152g) and add a bit for a bag (5-10g maybe if it also has a card label), and we probably arent that far off. Outer diameter seems about the same. Offset is a mystery as usual but it seems like they will stick out more than the standard ones.

 

What do we think guys? Will they be worth a try? if so, Jigsaw or stinger?

[lorrylemming]

5 hours ago, champ222 said:

 

Ok, apparently the fastrax tyres weigh around 190 - 200g for a pair in the packet @lorrylemming are you able to confirm this by weighing a wheel for me? The Standard LC racing truggy tyres weigh 120g a pair in the packet.

 

I have some LC truggy wheels with schumacher venom tyres on that weigh 76g each (no packaging), and its fine with those. So double that (152g) and add a bit for a bag (5-10g maybe if it also has a card label), and we probably arent that far off. Outer diameter seems about the same. Offset is a mystery as usual but it seems like they will stick out more than the standard ones.

 

What do we think guys? Will they be worth a try? if so, Jigsaw or stinger?

 

 

I'll try to weigh them tomorrow, here's a video of them on a 1/10th buggy to give an idea of size. They are definitely heavier than my 2.2 Schumacher wheels are tyres.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZPjXa3gxWA

 

[champ222]

If you could weigh them, that would be great. Do they grip pretty well off road?

[champ222]

Ive ordered the fastrax ones