walkbythesea Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Scottyb said: But after my experience with an FTX (carnage), i should have waited and bought the Hyper instead. If you can get one pre-owned, mine was £250 after i bought the Max8 for it I totally hear you, I’m just operating within the brief. Also I think it’s important to operate within personal tastes and aesthetics - truggies and buggies (with the exception of old skool true scale buggies like Tomahawks, Scorpions, Rough Riders etc) leave me absolutely cold, so I knew I always wanted a semi scale U4 or truck. The “best” buy is pointless if you don’t actually like it much, it won’t get used. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone-wolf Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 My take on the Outlaw, i really did not like the brushed version, its the wifes and i was forever fixing it, motors, esc`s short run time ect ect but she likes it so i ended up getting a well priced used brushless one and its been spot on, motor is sweet it gives decent run time on a 5200mah 2s lipo but the body shell cracks just about every where, when i do a new shell for her it will get scrim tape and shoo goo to try and make it strong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachite Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: The stock brushed model really is very disappointing - but it gives you the budget to upgrade the chassis, bumper, cheap brushless combo and a few other bits and still have change from your £200 For my money it was the best looking “semi scale” model for the budget and simply looks awesome in motion, I’ve a whole bunch of different cars but my Outlaw remains my go to as it’s simply so much fun. Do you have links to those upgrades you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Malachite said: Do you have links to those upgrades you recommend? Alloy chassis plate https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtdjElL Zorro bumper, for which you’ll need some 20mm m3 screws to install it https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ftx-Zorro-Front-Bumper-Set-FTX6953-/153693314739?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286 They’re the two main things that I’d recommend anyone change straight out of the box **** When your stock gears finally eat themselves then upgrade to these - but you’re unlikely to need them for a while, my original set lasted 3 months of being hammered nearly everyday Pinion https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/rw-.6-pinion-17-teeth-13756 Hardened spur https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/rw-hardened-acetal-outlaw-main-spur-gear-62t-433883 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachite Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: Alloy chassis plate https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtdjElL Zorro bumper, for which you’ll need some 20mm m3 screws to install it https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ftx-Zorro-Front-Bumper-Set-FTX6953-/153693314739?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286 They’re the two main things that I’d recommend anyone change straight out of the box **** When your stock gears finally eat themselves then upgrade to these - but you’re unlikely to need them for a while, my original set lasted 3 months of being hammered nearly everyday Pinion https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/rw-.6-pinion-17-teeth-13756 Hardened spur https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/rw-hardened-acetal-outlaw-main-spur-gear-62t-433883 Motor and ESC options if I decide to start brushed.....? It will be running with LiPo from day 1, if that makes any difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Malachite said: Motor and ESC options if I decide to start brushed.....? It will be running with LiPo from day 1, if that makes any difference I’ll have a look a bit, just finishing work. I did have a factory brushless combo for sale but it went at lunchtime, I’ll message you later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachite Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 32 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: I’ll have a look a bit, just finishing work. I did have a factory brushless combo for sale but it went at lunchtime, I’ll message you later. No rush. I'm not buying anything just yet. Only just got the boy's Phantom up and running after being broken since day 1, last Friday 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachite Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 I am getting more put off the Outlaw by reports of constant rolling when turning and flipping when braking sharply. I am now leaning towards a Maverick Strada DT brushed, with a view to going brushless soon after. Thoughts....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Malachite said: I am getting more put off the Outlaw by reports of constant rolling when turning and flipping when braking sharply. I am now leaning towards a Maverick Strada DT brushed, with a view to going brushless soon after. Thoughts....? I’ve not tried any of the Maverick range, but I can tell you that the stock battery location in the Outlaw is rubbish, too high and far back over the wheels, but it’s easy to move it for free - also the addition of a front sway bar and a better rear one and my Outlaw does not flip or roll at all even in high speed cornering, those mods cost under £20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 But yes, straight out of the box the handling can be excitable, but that’s half the fun 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanveer Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 On 17/06/2021 at 17:19, No brains said: Brushless triton cost more then £200, I just bought a brushless losi 22s sct truck that is a very nice car for £227 Where did you get this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No brains Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, tanveer said: Where did you get this? https://www.modellbau-berlinski.de/rc-fahrzeuge-und-zubehoer/autos-und-zubehoer/elektro-offroad/22s-kundn-2wd-sct-brushless-rtr-mit-avc-1_10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, No brains said: https://www.modellbau-berlinski.de/rc-fahrzeuge-und-zubehoer/autos-und-zubehoer/elektro-offroad/22s-kundn-2wd-sct-brushless-rtr-mit-avc-1_10 According to their shipping list they won’t supply to the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No brains Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: According to their shipping list they won’t supply to the UK it is in their shipping list Vereinigtes Königreich: 22,00 € Edited June 24, 2021 by No brains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, No brains said: it is in their shipping list Vereinigtes Königreich: 22,00 € My mistake, I looked everywhere for every combination I could think of - caught out by the V! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachite Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 I'm now leaning towards the FTX Zorro. Nice looking stadium truck. Can anybody confirm if this is same chassis as Outlaw as it looks quite similar under the hood.........? I also like the idea of the lower center of gravity for better handling and cornering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Malachite said: I'm now leaning towards the FTX Zorro. Nice looking stadium truck. Can anybody confirm if this is same chassis as Outlaw as it looks quite similar under the hood.........? I also like the idea of the lower center of gravity for better handling and cornering. Yeah, basically the same parts throughout but blue not black - IMO it will still want the battery moving, a brushless upgrade and alloy chassis but does come with the better bumpers straight out of the box. Smaller wheels are a double edged sword - lower centre of gravity, but also less ground clearance - so I choose to control the tumblewumble with updated sway bars and better foams rather than lower profile tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachite Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: Yeah, basically the same parts throughout but blue not black - IMO it will still want the battery moving, a brushless upgrade and alloy chassis but does come with the better bumpers straight out of the box. Smaller wheels are a double edged sword - lower centre of gravity, but also less ground clearance - so I choose to control the tumblewumble with updated sway bars and better foams rather than lower profile tyres. The alloy chassis will definitely be happening, along with the brushless upgrade. I saw Tomley RC on YouTube get 40 mph out of it with a simple brushless upgrade 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Malachite said: The alloy chassis will definitely be happening, along with the brushless upgrade. I saw Tomley RC on YouTube get 40 mph out of it with a simple brushless upgrade 🙂 Do you know what system he used? I’ve had over 40mph out of mine with two different systems - one which is an amazing allrounder and I’d recommend and one which was good for speed runs but not for daily drivability which I would not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachite Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, walkbythesea said: Do you know what system he used? I’ve had over 40mph out of mine with two different systems - one which is an amazing allrounder and I’d recommend and one which was good for speed runs but not for daily drivability which I would not! He used "SURPASS HOBBY KK 3650 Brushless Motor 4500KV 60A Brushless ESC 6KG Metal Gear Digital Servo" from Banggood but didn't install the servo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachite Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, Malachite said: He used "SURPASS HOBBY KK 3650 Brushless Motor 4500KV 60A Brushless ESC 6KG Metal Gear Digital Servo" from Banggood but didn't install the servo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, Malachite said: He used "SURPASS HOBBY KK 3650 Brushless Motor 4500KV 60A Brushless ESC 6KG Metal Gear Digital Servo" from Banggood but didn't install the servo. I reckon that would be OK to get topped out on the flat for a speed run but I wouldn’t recommend it for drivability - I reckon it would probably both cog and overheat in the rough stuff. Admittedly the wheels on a Zorro are smaller than an Outlaw, so running the same pinion the Zorro is inherently lower geared - but away from tarmac you’ll still want a lower kv motor. The fastest car is not always the funnest or best to drive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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