bertberr Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Whats the latest considered thinking on esc in these rigs? Is a basic 150a unit like a quicrun OK (with a 2200kv 4274 on 4S) or do they need something even chunkier, like a MAX6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Busby Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 150a Quicrun on 4s will be fine if you have the motor and gearing to match that. Max 8 is also fine but running 2000kv+ with 6s on it's gearing is a bit much IMO. It's a very light, and very nimble truck, its basically a race buggy with race truggy arms. You really do not need to overload the drive train with mental high power electircs. A good 4S at around ~2000-2400kv or 6S on ~1500-1900kv system is entirely adequete. I have a 1500 sensored system in mine at the moment with a 19t pinion It's great fun. If you start to uber bling it and add loads of upgrades, obviously things start to change, but the only 100% necissary upgrade is a servo arm. Metal spur, metal diff cups, metal suspension caps are optional but nice. Rear brace from MMM is a good upgrade as you can get a relocation plate for the ESC and make the wiring a bit easier. YMMV of course, and some people like to have their truck behave like an utter lunatic doing 70+ MPH for bashing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4inbrain Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Don't really see a problem with a Quicrun 150, wouldn't be my personal choice but generally it should be fine. One downside is that the BEC is a bit naff (6v/3a only), i like to run my servos at 7.4v. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 Well, I have a quicrun 150 sat in the spares box, likewise one of those 4274 Castle knock-offs, 2200kv from memory, and my 3.8 Road Rage's haven't sold either, and... I have a couple of 5000mah 4S packs doing nothing, and a couple of 325mm MT shells surplus to requirements, and... I fancy building a Tekno kit, so... Would stay at 4S and prob run it on asphalt, hard pack earth etc, so hopefully Road Rage would be OK. Or I source some Hyper ST arms/shafts/links etc and convert one of the 7's to a Monster Buggy. Just want to start making use of some of the spare hardware sitting around. Decisions, decisions! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, bertberr said: Well, I have a quicrun 150 sat in the spares box, likewise one of those 4274 Castle knock-offs, 2200kv from memory, and my 3.8 Road Rage's haven't sold either, and... I have a couple of 5000mah 4S packs doing nothing, and a couple of 325mm MT shells surplus to requirements, and... I fancy building a Tekno kit, so... Would stay at 4S and prob run it on asphalt, hard pack earth etc, so hopefully Road Rage would be OK. Or I source some Hyper ST arms/shafts/links etc and convert one of the 7's to a Monster Buggy. Just want to start making use of some of the spare hardware sitting around. Decisions, decisions! The mt410 handles really really well being so light and the kit is amazing quality. As good as a hobao cars are, i would highly recommend going for the mt410 if you already have the parts to go into it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Personally a 2200kv is a bit on the high side and leaves you with pretty much only 1 gearing option the 150a quicrun will be fine though lower kv for the win in my book and still only 4s 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 OK that's interesting. I got the 4274 originally to go in one of the H7's but think its just too big for that buggy, I've used 4068/4268 cans in both instead, on 4S and they're more than up to the job. What truck / type of rig would the 2200KV 4274 work best in? Is it more a 1/8 truggy motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Busby Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I 1 hour ago, bertberr said: OK that's interesting. I got the 4274 originally to go in one of the H7's but think its just too big for that buggy, I've used 4068/4268 cans in both instead, on 4S and they're more than up to the job. What truck / type of rig would the 2200KV 4274 work best in? Is it more a 1/8 truggy motor? Buggy/truggy/MT... it's a perfectly fine motor for pretty much any 1/8, just the MT 410 and the way the motor mount is, along with it's gearing, mean that the KV is a little on the high side for it. I wouldnt want to go any smaller in can size due to the heat generated from running big MT wheels. Personally I run truggy type wheels on mine most of the time. It will still work, and be usable, just like Doddy says, you will be limited to a choice of 1 pinion; whatever is the smallest. If you went for it, I suspect it will be a short time between installing it, falling in love with the truck, and replacing the motor with something at around 2000kv or lower. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Paul Busby said: I Buggy/truggy/MT... it's a perfectly fine motor for pretty much any 1/8, just the MT 410 and the way the motor mount is, along with it's gearing, mean that the KV is a little on the high side for it. I wouldnt want to go any smaller in can size due to the heat generated from running big MT wheels. Personally I run truggy type wheels on mine most of the time. It will still work, and be usable, just like Doddy says, you will be limited to a choice of 1 pinion; whatever is the smallest. If you went for it, I suspect it will be a short time between installing it, falling in love with the truck, and replacing the motor with something at around 2000kv or lower. Spot on 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namastebuzz Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 The MT410 is so light (or seems so light though I've never weighed it) compared to my Outcast 6S and E-Maxx that you don't need to overpower it.I'm using a Hobbywing SCT8 with a Castle 1512 motor on 4S. That combo is smaller and lighter than the 6S system I was going to put in and gives you a lot more space to work with too. The 2S batteries are also lighter than the comparable 3S ones I would've used.I only use it for bashing but it's just so nimble and manoeuvrable compared to the other trucks that it's a joy to drive. Sent from my MIX2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 That's interesting you say that, I thought they were circa 8 lbs ready to rip, so not that light I wouldn't have said, but then I've never held an Outcast or E-maxx!!! Anyway, I think I've decided to go down the Hyper 7 Monster Truck / Buggy route, as it will be a lot less expensive, but thanks all for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namastebuzz Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yeah the Hyper 7 route will be a LOT less pricey but extremely robust.Mind you, I picked up my MT410 as a roller for £240 on eBay with body shell and a set of Badlands. With used ESC/motor, a £10 Jx servo and an extra receiver for my existing FlySky radio it came in around £330......Sent from my MIX2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 Yeah thats cheap for an MT410, not sure I'd be that lucky, at least not in my lifetime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skynet5 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 We all like the mt410? I'm struggling to think where I would take such a monster in the Cheshire area. But I need to buy and build a buggy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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