turok007 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 What will traxxass do about the suspension setup as im sure they took someone to court before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 It's a bit tenuous. It's not like they invented the concept or will they intend to take every modern open wheel racing company to court too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mond said: It's a bit tenuous. It's not like they invented the concept or will they intend to take every modern open wheel racing company to court too? They did it before when a company copied the rocker arm. They also took HPI to court over some receiver boxes lol Edited May 24, 2016 by turok007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 16 hours ago, Jumper said: $800 with smart diffs and $700 without thats going to be £650+ for us i bet After seeing there build quality in the flesh I'll pass at this price, way to much cash If you ask me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 3 hours ago, mond said: It's a bit tenuous. It's not like they invented the concept or will they intend to take every modern open wheel racing company to court too? Thing it was vaterra over the twin hammers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 25 minutes ago, stretch said: Thing it was vaterra over the twin hammers. F1 cars use the same design. Perhaps traxxas should take them to court. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 1 hour ago, stretch said: Thing it was vaterra over the twin hammers. From what I've heard of the Twammers Vaterra deserved it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Coe Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Schumacher Topcat had very Revo style rocker arm front suspension before Traxxas even existed, and the TenthTech Predator had it all round years before the Revo. They might have a patent on their particular design, but not the concept in general. Easy to get around if you wanted..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Ok. I just went on the website. I went through every page. This thing looks amazing! I like every aspect of it. If this was a HPI or Traxxas (there fore supported well in the UK, my fleet would be up for sale to buy it. Are Arrma that bad parts wise? Ive never really heard of them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Arrma are part of Hobbico, who also own Axial and Team Durango. Many of the Arrma RTR cars are budget versions of Team Durango cars and have interchangeable parts in some cases. They seem to have a fairly good reputation overall. I'm quite torn by this. On one hand it could be a really good monster truggy but on the other hand you can pick up an ET48.3 or TLR 8ight T 3.0 plus the electrics for around the same price and those are proven bashers that really need nothing other than what comes in the box. Theres also the cheaper Hyper MT. Will have to see what the reviews say. Edited May 24, 2016 by mond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Is this not much bigger than an EB4/Losi 8ight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evssv Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, Guns said: Is this not much bigger than an EB4/Losi 8ight much bigger then a 1/8th buggy....hyper st size I reckon...or ur normal truggy size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Oh, this isn't as big as I expected? I thought Savage XL size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 A Savage XL body is about the same length as a standard 1:8 Truggy body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 They just showed on the MS site Without diff locker http://www.modelsport.co.uk/arrma-nero-6s-4wd-blx-monster-truck-rtr-green/rc-car-products/403884 With diff locker http://www.modelsport.co.uk/arrma-nero-6s-edc-4wd-blx-monster-truck-rtr-blue/rc-car-products/403883 £499 and £579 is not what I call cheap but better than the first price quests of £650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 43 minutes ago, mydoddy69 said: They just showed on the MS site Without diff locker http://www.modelsport.co.uk/arrma-nero-6s-4wd-blx-monster-truck-rtr-green/rc-car-products/403884 With diff locker http://www.modelsport.co.uk/arrma-nero-6s-edc-4wd-blx-monster-truck-rtr-blue/rc-car-products/403883 £499 and £579 is not what I call cheap but better than the first price quests of £650 Just seen that the rrp is £644 on the smart diff o e so I wasn't far off I bet that £580 is just a preorder price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 £499 is pretty reasonable for an RTR car of this ilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Yes the hyper mte plus rtr is £460 so for £30 more you get lay down shocks. I think it's best to wait for Reviews to see how durable it will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I'm going to end up with this for no reason whatsoever! I just want it. If parts supply improves I'm in! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autobutcher Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 So is it a MT basher that can crawl/wheely/drift ish? I hope this is a good bit of kit as it can only be good for the hobby if it is, but the old saying 'jack of all trades, master of none' keeps whispering around my head, and how durable will these all singing and dancing diffs be after a few hours of big jumps and shoddy landings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 9 hours ago, mond said: £499 is pretty reasonable for an RTR car of this ilk. £499 is for the non locking diff version so just a regular mt when you remove that bit 8 hours ago, Jumper said: Yes the hyper mte plus rtr is £460 so for £30 more you get lay down shocks. I think it's best to wait for Reviews to see how durable it will be. Lay down shocks in the past have been a bit hit and miss IMO so maybe these will be better ? As for the locking diffs to me they look like a potential nightmare if you get your end points out of whack ! Build quality on Arrma is low grade IMO so for the money I hope they brought there A game for this one !! Now let's not forget that Arrma don't have the best record for the electrics so this having more it could be another nightmare .. Granted there warranty cliams are good but then agian they've had plenty of practice .. Lastly this look like a pig to work on Its only £30 more than the MTe if you don't have the all singing and dancing locking diffs if you have the locking diffs it's £110 more ! So seeing as it wouldn't be much different to the MTe for £499 I'd opt for the MTe but then agian I might be a little baised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, mydoddy69 said: £499 is for the non locking diff version so just a regular mt when you remove that bit I wouldn't go with the locking version unless the reviews come in saying it's bomb proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Coe Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 As mentioned before ARRMA is also Durango and has traditionally focused on the budget end of the market (hence the build quality) whilst Durango did the higher end stuff with correspondingly better quality. I guess it was decided to release this truck as an ARRMA because Durango's focus is on racing, and whilst this is high end, its no racer! So I'd say Durango build quality rather than ARRMA, and by that I mean 410 and 408 not the 210RTR..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capri-boy Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 8 hours ago, Si Coe said: As mentioned before ARRMA is also Durango and has traditionally focused on the budget end of the market (hence the build quality) whilst Durango did the higher end stuff with correspondingly better quality. I guess it was decided to release this truck as an ARRMA because Durango's focus is on racing, and whilst this is high end, its no racer! So I'd say Durango build quality rather than ARRMA, and by that I mean 410 and 408 not the 210RTR..... So the Kraton, Talion etc is low end? I thought it shared many parts with the Durango's? I'd struggle to see any cost savings in producing X thousand parts in one factory / plastic then X thousand more in another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Coe Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 For a start remember that a lot of RC parts aren't made 'in house' at all so don't be surprised if a model does contain parts from multiple sources. Secondly they don't 'share parts' in that they have different part no's. The Durango parts fit because they were designed using parts from Durangos but that doesn't mean that they are the same part - the plastic might be different etc. As for lower end, well yes they are really. They are entry level 1/8th electrics that have been fitted with the powerplant from a higher end model. Picture a Trophy Flux with Vorza running gear. You'll also note that the Kraton and Talion are both cheaper than the Trophy let alone the Vorza, and that the Kraton is the cheapest 6S model around. The only way thats possible is with a few compromises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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