mephisto Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hi guys, I'm not sure how can I draw door lines and other bits inside the shell before painting it, in a way it doesn't wash out when I apply paint on top. I've got the same bodyshell and want to make it look similar to this, but I've not idea what is best to use. Can anyone assist me please? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deafty Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Draw on the outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephisto Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Sure? with a permanent marker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephisto Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Noj said: so sharpie it is, thanks! Edited January 4, 2016 by mephisto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Read the thread.....it is a possibility.... It could be that the shut lines were airbrushed on first in the above image, a company wants their 'show shell' to be realistic to draw buyers to it...... You can buy trim tape in various widths, have a look at stockists of RC boats and aircraft as this is where it is commonly used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephisto Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Noj said: Read the thread.....it is a possibility.... It could be that the shut lines were airbrushed on first in the above image, a company wants their 'show shell' to be realistic to draw buyers to it...... You can buy trim tape in various widths, have a look at stockists of RC boats and aircraft as this is where it is commonly used yeah that is true, but with tape I think it would always end up being too wide comparing to a pen, so I'll try it this time. By the way, do you guys tint windows? Is there a good way of doing it? Perhaps some sort of transparent stickers with smoked finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Tamiya smoke spray. Build it up in very fine layers to achieve the desired darkness. Some shells do come with window stickers featuring tint and surround....takes some fine application to get them spot on and air bubble free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephisto Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 I got the protoform bodyshell like in the picture, it comes with the window mask stickers but that is it, no surroundings of anything to ting the windows. I've found the tamiya smoke paint, that is really cool, thanks! I'm just a bit in doubts how to paint as I believe if I paint the body in red first, the cut the window stickers to expose teh area I want to paint in black, the paint will also end up on top of the red paint and darken it up a lot. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 45 minutes ago, mephisto said: Hi guys, I'm not sure how can I draw door lines and other bits inside the shell before painting it, in a way it doesn't wash out when I apply paint on top. I've got the same bodyshell and want to make it look similar to this, but I've not idea what is best to use. Can anyone assist me please? thanks! They look so cool when they have the panneling done in blacked lines but most either do it with a fine tip sharpie or a biro. that all good but your never going to get those perfect lines with that method, BUT there is a device a model painter will come across and nodoubt own at some time and that is a Fine line painting pen or also known as a fluid writing pen (amazon) , they tend to start of at a number 1 model (0.5mm ) so its a nice fine line. you will water down your black paint with a 4:1 - 5:1 ratio so its thin enough to run from the tip but not like a tap. method is simple, keep pen upright at all times and slowly draw it along the cast lines in the bodyshell. let it fully dry off (atleast 6hrs) then give it your main color coat. job is done and you also own a new bodyworking tool - fine line pen for paint-model and art working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephisto Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 33 minutes ago, Tamiyacowboy said: They look so cool when they have the panneling done in blacked lines but most either do it with a fine tip sharpie or a biro. that all good but your never going to get those perfect lines with that method, BUT there is a device a model painter will come across and nodoubt own at some time and that is a Fine line painting pen or also known as a fluid writing pen (amazon) , they tend to start of at a number 1 model (0.5mm ) so its a nice fine line. you will water down your black paint with a 4:1 - 5:1 ratio so its thin enough to run from the tip but not like a tap. method is simple, keep pen upright at all times and slowly draw it along the cast lines in the bodyshell. let it fully dry off (atleast 6hrs) then give it your main color coat. job is done and you also own a new bodyworking tool - fine line pen for paint-model and art working Would something like this would do in your opinion? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hellfire-Drawing-Ultra-Fine-Line-Pen-005-01-02-03-04-05-08-Art-Waterproof-Black-/131607733317?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368 or http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DERWENT-GRAPHIK-FINE-LINE-MAKER-ARTIST-PAINTERS-PERMANENT-MARKER-PAINT-LINER-PEN-/361180099313?var=&hash=item541802f2f1:m:ml9UpB__4cdBwmtFd9X16TQ Not sure what you meant by water down the black, sorry I'm a bit ignorant in this aspect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephisto Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 I tried a permanent marker to test, but it is not solid. very transparent black... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) http://www.amazon.com/Small-Fluid-Writer-Kemper-Tools/dp/B0049P5Z4I You mix your own paint with thinners as TC said, then draw the lines on. Reckon with practice you'll get the desired look. NOT with that pen though....just read the reviews and they aren't good Edited January 4, 2016 by Noj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex97 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Or just pay a pro to paint it for you, they'll charge but it will be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephisto Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Noj said: http://www.amazon.com/Small-Fluid-Writer-Kemper-Tools/dp/B0049P5Z4I You mix your own paint with thinners as TC said, then draw the lines on. Reckon with practice you'll get the desired look. NOT with that pen though....just read the reviews and they aren't good hmm, okay that definitely require more artistic skills than I expected. As it is my first shell, perhaps I'll just paint over the body this time and next time I get a fluid pan, it feels like a lot of work just to get the lines indeed. Maybe one step at time for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephisto Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, alex97 said: Or just pay a pro to paint it for you, they'll charge but it will be worth it. It is an alternative, but I like the fact that is product of my work than someone else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 it takes time to learn to paint. first couple trys will be the worse, after that you get a lot betetr and learn tricks. best place to get tips and learn some basics is youtube, its a great place to watch others do something, if you see it done you remember it more when you call that moment back from your memory of it. videos are cool you get great tips and see hands on how others go about creating styles - art and liverys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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