swingy_p Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 evening all, my first post in electric lol, have been out with my boys with there wild dagger and one of the two motor's has burned out! now was thinking of either up-grading the motor's to better brushed ones or to converting it to a brushless set up. now the brushed idea will be the easiest and cheepest but was wondering how hard and what would be needed to convert it to brushless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAZ Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I had a brushed twin detonator (same as the wild dagger but with a different shell) I used an hpi gt 14.4v esc with 2 x gt 550 motors I dremelled out the space above where the battery sits so a second battery could fit. I also changed the connectors to deans Best to get some decent nimhs too - 2 x 7.2v vapextech 5000mah would be a good start I think theres a guy on here that also has a wild dagger and was upgrading it to brushless, might be worth having a search for it. Get some decent shocks for it too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingy_p Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 have got 5x 4500mah battery's at the mo and shocks have already been upgraded, has a storm X esc which is limitless as to what motors its running and could also be switched to use lipo's, not thought about running two battery's lol would give it a little more go and run time would b a little longer will have a search through the posts and see if i can find hi and see how he got on cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicideneil Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 have got 5x 4500mah battery's at the mo and shocks have already been upgraded, has a storm X esc which is limitless as to what motors its running and could also be switched to use lipo's, not thought about running two battery's lol would give it a little more go and run time would b a little longer will have a search through the posts and see if i can find hi and see how he got on cheers Piece of cake- you would just connect both BL escs to the receiver via a little servo Y-splitter, so that the throttle signal is the same on both escs & motors- nothing else to it. If one motor needs to be reversed, you just swap 2 wires around on one of the motors to reverse it's direction of rotation. I'd say something like a 35amp esc and 9 to 13 turn 36x50mm motor should work perfectly. Staying brushed is easier though ofcourse, in which case something like 19 or 17 turn 540 motors will work nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingy_p Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 cheers for the advise guys and Neil will keep that in mind as gonna stay brushed for the time being, got 2 Ansmann 19Turn Double Tuned 540 motors for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAZ Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Have you got a kimbrough servo saver? I also padded out the sides of the servo to stop it flexing in the mounts. Have you got some hub extenders for it? It was an upgrade I never got round to getting. I wanted to give the truck a wider stance to stop it rolling (as much) when hammering round corners etc Whats your run time on those nimhs your using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaZilla Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) Piece of cake- you would just connect both BL escs to the receiver via a little servo Y-splitter, so that the throttle signal is the same on both escs & motors- nothing else to it. If one motor needs to be reversed, you just swap 2 wires around on one of the motors to reverse it's direction of rotation. I'd say something like a 35amp esc and 9 to 13 turn 36x50mm motor should work perfectly. Staying brushed is easier though ofcourse, in which case something like 19 or 17 turn 540 motors will work nicely. Just make sure one of the ESC's Has it's "Red Wire" Disconnected. Just disconnect the Red wire from one of the Splitter Inputs... May be the Same ESC's, Running the Same Internal BEC's But Wouldn't Risk it even so...... Edited May 26, 2012 by GorillaZilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingy_p Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 the truck is pretty much stock at the mo apart from the storm X ESC still waiting for the new motors to come, if you still have the links for the mods listed above will be worth having at the mo using stock motors we get around 20-30 mins out of one just messing about over the field and down the BMX track not tried with the twin set up yet was hoping to this weekend but waiting on the motorshey GorillaZilla, we related? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingy_p Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 Just make sure one of the ESC's Has it's "Red Wire" Disconnected. Just disconnect the Red wire from one of the Splitter Inputs... May be the Same ESC's, Running the Same Internal BEC's But Wouldn't Risk it even so...... cheers for that, will bare that in mind when the time comes that i change over to brushless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaZilla Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) Maybe we share a Second Cousin twice removed? Edited May 26, 2012 by GorillaZilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingy_p Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 Lol we certainly look very similar! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnake505 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 im currently running a wild dagger with a twin brushless set up! and with every thing else standard (apart from i have axle extenders from junfac) its brilliant! not used lipos with stock chassis but the extra speed and toruqe for clibing is worth the cost! im now running a custom chassis with has extended the wheel base to 15" and will be using lipos (first lipo run tomoro) also scrapping the axle extenders and converting to run hpi rush rear lower arms! the axle extenders will bend the axle over time i say time about 5 packs (i do bash really hard!) heres my thread :-) only change of late is the battery tray has gone http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/135824-pumping-new-life-in-to-an-old-wild-dagger-updatde-25412/page__p__1331886#entry1331886 snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingy_p Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 hiya, bit of an update, as new motors have finally arrived (1st order lost in post!) decided on staying brushed for now anyway. have now got round to fitting them both and shifted a few things around so can get a second battery fitted (run times around 40mins) fitted some new bearings (got rid of the plastic bushes) and fitted some new shocks all round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevergrowup Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 hello pretty new to the rc stuff but dont like the pin spike tyres on my wild dagger what is a good option its mostly used on tarmac and concrete what are those on swingy-ps dagger anyone know thanks andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamiyafanboy Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 20/06/2012 at 16:16, swingy_p said: hiya, bit of an update, as new motors have finally arrived (1st order lost in post!) decided on staying brushed for now anyway. have now got round to fitting them both and shifted a few things around so can get a second battery fitted (run times around 40mins) fitted some new bearings (got rid of the plastic bushes) and fitted some new shocks all round. Looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingy_p Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 hello pretty new to the rc stuff but dont like the pin spike tyres on my wild dagger what is a good option its mostly used on tarmac and concrete what are those on swingy-ps dagger anyone know thanks andyWelcome to the group [emoji1303]There HPI #2160 - SUPER STAR MT WHEELS (CHROME/DEEP OFFSET/2pcs) rims with Schumacher Disc. Chevron 127 Truck TyresSent from my H8216 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevergrowup Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 hello thanks for that swingy-p but its all gone over my head, everything i put in on ebay says no results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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