bishbashbosh Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Are there some measurements that can be taken to get the geometry back to standard? I tried tweaking the rear and now it will barely turn on grass without spinning out Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy111 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Could anyone point me in the direction of what pinion might be needed if I put a flux warp 5700kv motor in my firestorm? Would be running on 2S only and a standard flux vapour esc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locky Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, Smithy111 said: what pinion might be needed if I put a flux warp 5700kv Watch your motor and ESC temps, with the Warp, mine always got very hot and then died, which seemed to occur to others. Lower kv would be more useable. Dont they supply it with 4000kv now. Start at 19T pinion but depends on your surface, your driving style, terrain, tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everclear1984 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 8 hours ago, locky said: Watch your motor and ESC temps, with the Warp, mine always got very hot and then died, which seemed to occur to others. Lower kv would be more useable. Dont they supply it with 4000kv now. Start at 19T pinion but depends on your surface, your driving style, terrain, tyres. The Warp was one of my favourite motors for my Firestorm, unfortunately the build quality of HPI motors is crap so it didn't last long. 14-16t pinion on 2s is about as high as I could go with my driving style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelexStar Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Hey ho! I'm new to the RC world and just taken receipt of a new E-Firestorm Flux yesterday. I opted for a 2S and 3S battery and had a question around whether I need to configure the ESC differently if I'm switching batteries? I was originally looking at this car about 2 years ago and I remember reading somewhere that you had to set the car up to use a 3S battery but the car I've just bought is an updated model and the manual mentions that the "Auto Lipo" setting will auto detect if I'm using a 2 cell or 3 cell battery and then cut each cell off when it reaches the set cut-off voltage. From this, am I safe to assume the ESC will auto detect? Apologies if this has been asked before. I did try searching. Also, if anyone's got any recommended do's and don'ts for a newbie, I'd appreciate it. I've already got a T-Bone bumper on order for crash mitigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 You just need to set the esc to lipo mode that's it. All you need is tbone bumpers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelexStar Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Thanks. On this later model, do I need to take off the ESC fan if I'm running in wet conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 Probably what does it say in the manual. Also double check fan is compatible with 3s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelexStar Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) The manual says the fan is rated for 3S packs but doesn't mention anything about having to disconnect it for running in wet conditions. *EDIT* never mind, I found the answer on HPI's spec page on their site. Disconnect the fan. Edited August 17, 2016 by TelexStar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelexStar Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) How do I check what battery mode (NiMh/LiPo) my E-Firestorm Flux is set to? The manual included in the box is obviously an older print as certain aspects are obsolete but there's a note about making sure that the ESC is set for the right battery mode otherwise you risk damage. Several of my ESC settings were different from the stock factory settings (fail-safe was off) so I want to check how I set the battery mode. The manual doesn't seem to tell me and I can't find an answer anywhere. Any pointers would be appreciated. *edit* The ESC is an Flux EMH-3S Edited August 18, 2016 by TelexStar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Have you checked for updated manual on hpi website? Also 1st result in Google for esc manual http://hpiracing.world/en/part/112851 Edited August 18, 2016 by stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelexStar Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, stretch said: Have you checked for updated manual on hpi website? Also 1st result in Google for esc manual http://hpiracing.world/en/part/112851 Yep, I looked at that but there's no mention of any instructions on how to switch the ESC between LiPo and NiMh. The older manuals have the instructions but the ESC was different. The only thing I can think is the ESC auto detects the battery type but I'm not certain - hence I'm asking the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 1 minute ago, TelexStar said: Yep, I looked at that but there's no mention of any instructions on how to switch the ESC between LiPo and NiMh. The older manuals have the instructions but the ESC was different. The only thing I can think is the ESC auto detects the battery type but I'm not certain - hence I'm asking the question. Did you actually read the link I gave you? open http://hpiracing.world/en/part/112851 again scroll to the bottom of the page and click on Download PDF instructions for #112851 (2.9 MB) Once open scroll down to page 8 Read onwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjw Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 So there's a new model out? Which do you have? Just set the cutout around 3.2v or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelexStar Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 44 minutes ago, stretch said: Did you actually read the link I gave you? open http://hpiracing.world/en/part/112851 again scroll to the bottom of the page and click on Download PDF instructions for #112851 (2.9 MB) Once open scroll down to page 8 Read onwards Yes I did. Multiple times. I'm not trying to be annoying, honest. I just don't see the instructions to switch between LiPo and NiMh. Sorry. Page 8: covers batteries in the transmitter Page 9: says there are 2 battery modes and that it's important to set the right one but then doesn't actually tell you how to do it. It refers you to page 34 which covers the various ESC modes but battery mode isn't one of them. It then goes onto the parts list. What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) What manual are reading? not the one i linked to as page 8 doesn't talk about putting batteries in the tx???? At page 9 refers to programme mode NOT " 2 battery modes and that it's important to set the right one" It explains putting the esc into programme mode and then changing the setting.... Put the esc into programme mode as per page 8 Page 9 step 2 "Each flash represents the programme mode number" "Release the setup button when you reach the desired mode" Page 10 step 3 table "Parameter mode" look down, number 3 "Auto lipo cut off" So release the button when it gets to 3 Then press the button again to change the mode value, no protection etc as per the table. So just read and follow the steps form page 8 adjusting mode 3. Now with pics.... Or just buy one of these http://www.hpiracing.co.uk/piw.php?partNo=101856 I've just checked you are reading the firestorm flux manua! http://hpiracing.world/assets/documents/instruction_manuals/115896_vol02_e_firestorm_10t_flux_rtr_060415.pdf not the one i said click on! so you haven't read it once never mind multiple times. Edited August 19, 2016 by stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelexStar Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, stretch said: It explains putting the esc into programme mode and then changing the setting.... Put the esc into programme mode as per page 8 Page 9 step 2 "Each flash represents the programme mode number" "Release the setup button when you reach the desired mode" Page 10 step 3 table "Parameter mode" look down, number 3 "Auto lipo cut off" So release the button when it gets to 3 Then press the button again to change the mode value, no protection etc as per the table. So just read and follow the steps form page 8 adjusting mode 3. I've done this (and did before I posted) and have my cut off at 3.2v but I thought this was just the cut off point for LiPo batteries. I know NiMh don't require a cut off but the manual implies that there are 2 specific modes to switch between (LiPo or NiMh) and that running on one with the incorrect battery will cause damage, which is why I'm asking. From what you're saying though, it sounds as though I don't need to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Lipo mode on an esc just enables lvc as nimh does not require it so you've set it to 3.2 so your good to go. Page 9 of the flux manual http://hpiracing.world/assets/documents/instruction_manuals/115896_vol02_e_firestorm_10t_flux_rtr_060415.pdf where it mentions the 2 modes refers you to page 34 which is the setup for lvc. The esc can't detect battery TYPE but can detect cell count assuming all cells are properly charged etc. Edited August 19, 2016 by stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelexStar Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Thanks Stretch. I guess I took it too literally when the manual mentions... (quote) "The speed control has 2 types of battery modes to choose from". Anyway, thanks for your patience. Appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 No problem glad we got it sorted now get out there and enjoy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelexStar Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 4 hours ago, stretch said: No problem glad we got it sorted now get out there and enjoy it Had a good first run in some fairly thick grass. Super fun! Did notice one of the rear wheel nuts was loose by the end so will make a note to check those before each run. Not sure how tight they were out of the box as I didn't check (silly) but have just ordered some spares with some threadlock as I can see those coming off at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Cool, watch your motor temps in long/thick grass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evssv Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 2 hours ago, TelexStar said: Had a good first run in some fairly thick grass. Super fun! Did notice one of the rear wheel nuts was loose by the end so will make a note to check those before each run. Not sure how tight they were out of the box as I didn't check (silly) but have just ordered some spares with some threadlock as I can see those coming off at some point. top tip for any rc weather new or used...cheap or expensive as quality control can b sum what hit n miss even at places like hpi/traxxas ext......chk every single nut/bolt/screw BEFORE u go play......this way nothing will fall off/round out[wheel hexs]or go missing.....and ruin ur first bash...........and obv chk everything every few other bashes to make sure nothing has come loose....bit of lube where needed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Best Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Had a good first run in some fairly thick grass. Super fun! [emoji3] Did notice one of the rear wheel nuts was loose by the end so will make a note to check those before each run. Not sure how tight they were out of the box as I didn't check (silly) but have just ordered some spares with some threadlock as I can see those coming off at some point. I don't think you need to threadlock the wheel nuts just screw them on fairly tightly. You might need to remove the wheels for maintenance/replacement. You don't want any dried on threadlock on the thread either. Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Never threadlock mine and not lost any yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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