Traxxas Maxx

12 hours ago, m4inbrain said:

True, that it's non-standard size (for no other reason than preventing easy access to upgrades, and yes i absolutely think that Traxxas would do that, no doubt) i didn't even take into account.

 

I'll be honest, i'd probably still wonder if i'd pay too much at Kraton-price point, but at this price point i don't know. For £400-£450 i'd at least consider it. And it's not worth a dime more than that. 

 

I don't know what GSOH means. 

 Yep it’s a non standard size but you can swap it out for a standard size using the optional mounting cage but unless there busting the gears or burning up I dont see the issue I think folks are just looking for problems before they may or may NOT even arise. 

I'm just sitting back and enjoying the back and forth between the two factions whilst stroking my Tekno (that sounds bad)

 

I'm not trying to fan the flames here, but have a look at this:

 

 

Edited October 14, 2019 by monkeyboy_uk

24 minutes ago, monkeyboy_uk said:

I'm just sitting back and enjoying the back and forth between the two factions whilst stroking my Tekno (that sounds bad)

 

I'm not trying to fan the flames here, but have a look at this:

 

 

 
Thats the one from earlier it’s JayTee but before he did the vid in which it broke he did this vid as well where he just nails the throttle and balloons the tyres whilst trying to right it 

 

 

 

 

Yet another good bashing vid without issue 🤣

 

 

This one not so issue free but boy it takes a beating listen to those landings 🥴

 

 

 

Edited October 14, 2019 by mydoddy69

2 hours ago, mydoddy69 said:

 
Thats the one from earlier it’s JayTee but before he did the vid in which it broke he did this vid as well where he just nails the throttle and balloons the tyres whilst trying to right it 

 

 

 

 

I could never bring myself to use self righting, it makes me cringe.

Here's reality: if the Maxx was £400, and to be absolutely clear here, it's not worth a single dime more, i'd actually buy one. I like the looks of the truck, i like monster trucks, and it's just about the right size for me. I still would be very much up the walls if it'd break a shaft after two runs of getting it, but hey. 

 

To be objective and realistic, why should someone buy this over a Kraton. We're not even talking the 4s Kraton (£350), we're talking the 6s Kraton. Wait, no. We're not talking just the 6s Kraton, we're talking a 6s Kraton, with an aftermarket chassis brace and an aftermarket high end servo, and you'd still save money. How one can look at the Maxx and argue "well that's the better deal, clearly" is absolutely beyond me, sorry. 

 

It's a cheap plastic bomber, it should be priced like one. Traxxas doesn't use  "magic plastic" in their servo gears either, it's a 5kg truck turning big wheels. These gears will strip. How do i know? Because every single other big truck that comes or came with plastic gears does it too. That's why companies went away from them. It won't defy reality because Traxxas made it. People instantly knew what was going to happen to TRX4 servos, and hey, what do you know. It happened. 

 

To put into perspective, the Maxx is just a tenner cheaper than a MT410 with a Max8 combo. Fair enough, doesn't include such a "high end radio" as the 2ch TQI, but a GT3B is £20, and is probably the better radio too. Certainly feels nicer in the hand (and yes, i have both here, and paid a lot of money to be able to run my TRX4 with all features on something else). 

 

I know people have trouble with objectivity when it comes to "their" stuff, in certain things i probably have the same problem (football springs to mind, cough). In terms of RC? I hate Traxxas with passion, that's not a secret. I don't hate their RCs - as mentioned, i have one. And was at least close to getting an X-Maxx too, with not enough space being the reason that prevented it. 

 

Sidenote: Traxxas is advertising self righting in the manual (Page 16). With that, self righting isn't an excuse or explanation to why drive shafts break. And no, no disclaimer about wear and tear either, just that you really should do it on 4s only, and only "a few times" if it doesn't work the first time around. 

Well said!

A new Traxxas model causing heated debate... who saw that coming...???!!!

 

Be interesting to hear how doddy gets on with his one when it arrives.  Hope it brings a smile to your face dude, job done then - its just a toy car after all.

 

 

11 hours ago, m4inbrain said:

Here's reality: if the Maxx was £400, and to be absolutely clear here, it's not worth a single dime more, i'd actually buy one. I like the looks of the truck, i like monster trucks, and it's just about the right size for me. I still would be very much up the walls if it'd break a shaft after two runs of getting it, but hey. 

 

To be objective and realistic, why should someone buy this over a Kraton. We're not even talking the 4s Kraton (£350), we're talking the 6s Kraton. Wait, no. We're not talking just the 6s Kraton, we're talking a 6s Kraton, with an aftermarket chassis brace and an aftermarket high end servo, and you'd still save money. How one can look at the Maxx and argue "well that's the better deal, clearly" is absolutely beyond me, sorry. 

 

It's a cheap plastic bomber, it should be priced like one. Traxxas doesn't use  "magic plastic" in their servo gears either, it's a 5kg truck turning big wheels. These gears will strip. How do i know? Because every single other big truck that comes or came with plastic gears does it too. That's why companies went away from them. It won't defy reality because Traxxas made it. People instantly knew what was going to happen to TRX4 servos, and hey, what do you know. It happened. 

 

To put into perspective, the Maxx is just a tenner cheaper than a MT410 with a Max8 combo. Fair enough, doesn't include such a "high end radio" as the 2ch TQI, but a GT3B is £20, and is probably the better radio too. Certainly feels nicer in the hand (and yes, i have both here, and paid a lot of money to be able to run my TRX4 with all features on something else). 

 

I know people have trouble with objectivity when it comes to "their" stuff, in certain things i probably have the same problem (football springs to mind, cough). In terms of RC? I hate Traxxas with passion, that's not a secret. I don't hate their RCs - as mentioned, i have one. And was at least close to getting an X-Maxx too, with not enough space being the reason that prevented it. 

 

Sidenote: Traxxas is advertising self righting in the manual (Page 16). With that, self righting isn't an excuse or explanation to why drive shafts break. And no, no disclaimer about wear and tear either, just that you really should do it on 4s only, and only "a few times" if it doesn't work the first time around. 

 
But your missing the point it’s a 1/10th and even the mt410 with a max 8 combo will still need wheels and tyres and a body shell plus paint servo and radio gear. 
 

I get the argument on price against it’s true rival the 1/10th kraton and outcast but yet again folks are missing the pluses and just seeing pounds the Arrma 4s range ran plastic gears plastic shocks plastic centre shaft a slipper and comes with a god awful radio compared to a metal set up in the Maxx plus a centre diff set up.  Not to mention the problems it having with the chassis snapping shocks leaking motor mount bending and servo saver too weak to mention a few so let’s correct them the compare ? 
 

Again I see the argument with the 6s range but again your seeing the first outlay what about the other flaws that many many Arrma users face the bendy chassis that’s not just cured with a set of cheap alloy braces or the diff cases that crack because of the chassis flex and again the poor radio unfortunately the arrmas are not as reliable or as tough as some would make you believe 

 

As for servos yep plastic strips out but so does cheap metal ones and as long as it’s capable of doing the job at hand I don’t see a problem running plastic and as yet I’ve not seen any reason to suggest it’s not up to the job or strips it’s gears on the Maxx have you ? 
 

Folks are stuck on price compared to a cheaper brand and imo a inferior product from what I’ve seen 

 

 

 

 

 

  

7 minutes ago, bertberr said:

A new Traxxas model causing heated debate... who saw that coming...???!!!

 

Be interesting to hear how doddy gets on with his one when it arrives.  Hope it brings a smile to your face dude, job done then - its just a toy car after all.

 

 

 Thanks dude and yep it’s like it’s big brother all over again 🤣🤣

edit

 

nah, not getting into this, enjoy your truck - i actually do wish you the best with it

Edited October 15, 2019 by m4inbrain

Calling something 1:10 does not actually make it 1:10. Are we comparing the Maxx with the Clodbuster too? 

 

I've seen a ton of Kratons, Talions, Typhons, Outcasts and Sentons abused in front of me and I've never actually seen a chassis bend. That's seeing them sent off proper motorcross ramps at bashing events,  not little skate park ramps.  I'm sure it can happen, just like you can bend any chassis. If I was to objectively criticise the Kraton and Outcast it would be the area around the hingepins being too weak as the arms seems to pop off or come out of the holders. The Talion comes with wheels only good for the bin and will break within minutes. 

29 minutes ago, mond said:

Calling something 1:10 does not actually make it 1:10. Are we comparing the Maxx with the Clodbuster too? 

 

I've seen a ton of Kratons, Talions, Typhons, Outcasts and Sentons abused in front of me and I've never actually seen a chassis bend. That's seeing them sent off proper motorcross ramps at bashing events,  not little skate park ramps.  I'm sure it can happen, just like you can bend any chassis. If I was to objectively criticise the Kraton and Outcast it would be the area around the hingepins being too weak as the arms seems to pop off or come out of the holders. The Talion comes with wheels only good for the bin and will break within minutes. 

 I’ve been waiting for your comments on this and I know your an a paddles worth event goer so explain this 

 

I know this is only one pic but the web is full of them and guys complaining about it and is the reason why theres so many guys making upgraded chassis and why there so popular 

 
There’s no getting away from the fact the chassis is a well known and proven weak spot 

 

This said this thread isn’t about Arrmas 6s and it’s flaws although it seems to be where folks want to go with there comparisons and why they think this is rubbish but in life unfortunately there will always be a higher priced product if there wasn’t you wouldnt get value brands they’d all be the same cheap junk 

 

 

 

I've just said I had never seen one in person but said I'm sure it can happen. 

 

I actually marshalled their first event this year so saw everything that was sent on one of the larger jumps. I'm sure some of those chassis got bent but I'm not going notice them if they are that small. You tend to notice the exploded diffs churning away, popped shock caps or rod ends, wheels breaking away from the hubs or how every xmaxx loses it's body on landing. 

 

No one is calling the Maxx rubbish, they are stating it's over priced for what it is, given Traxxas isn't exactly a premium brand either and it's aimed at the same market as the Arrma 6S cars. The same people who went and bought the Arrma 6S bashers are going to buy this, or at least consider it and do exactly the same things with it, except put 6S in it, not that i probably needs 6S anyway. 

Hm, yeah. I don't understand either why someone would compare the new Traxxas RTR basher to the current most popular RTR basher out there. That makes no sense to me. Lets compare it to an Axial SCX10. Or maybe an MST MS01-D? 

 

And yes, of course there always will be more expensive vehicles. I just built a £800+ (all in all) RC crawler, and that's still "cheap" compared to monds Vanquish. Problem here being, that his Vanquish in many respects reflects that price too. I probably wouldn't argue that the Kit is worth literally twice the price of the Trail King, but it is the better vehicle. 

 

It really isn't a hard concept to grasp as to why people compare something that is clearly aimed at the same people as a Kraton, with a Kraton. 

 

That said: i do call the Maxx rubbish, for the price. I'd call a Kraton for £600 bad for the price too. In fact, my old Losi XXL2e was rubbish too for that kind of money. In fact it was rubbish in many aspects, still liked it. It's fine to enjoy something flawed - i did. The problem here is simply that some people can accept that they have a flawed, overpriced truck (like i did), and others have to bend over backwards to come up with bogus reasoning to justify the flaws and price. Btw, yeah, under extreme conditions a Kraton bends. You can buy the Kraton, a full M2C Goliath chassis and their milled alu shock braces that doesn't, and still get away cheaper. That's the point. 

 

To be clear: higher priced products are fine. I'm also very fond of my memories of spending way too much money on RCs. But if you get less for more money, that's where problems arise. It's the Apple conundrum. As i said: i actually don't mind the Maxx, i would buy one if priced accordingly. I wouldn't mind it breaking like that either (much). 

 

Just briefly in regards to scale, it obviously isn't a 1/10th. It's a 1/8th running 1/10th motor/esc. It's funny though since i vividly remember people arguing that the X-Maxx isn't a 1/8th just because it runs a 1/8th drivetrain (the original 6s), but it has to be 1/7th (some went as far to compare it with 1/6th and 1/5th) because it's so big. The Maxx is bigger than an Outcast 6s, Savage or MT4 G3. Just slightly smaller than a Savage XL, or the Kraton 6s. It's not an SCT either. It's 1/8th.

Valid points on both sides, good discussion in my book. 

 

Was heading out, couldn't type much. 

 

The alloy chassis has one major chink in its armour, it won't bend back like plastic. Kevin Talbot has tried both the M2C and Just Bash It chassis, didn't bend either, but preferred the lighter of the two, if my memory serves. I can't remember which one that was, but both were put through their paces. 

 

Arrma could make chassis from better material, but that would add twenty quid at the factory? So by the time their on the shelves, you're paying 50, 60 or 70 quid more, which would put buyers off. 

 

I don't actually criticise Traxxas for any of their recent plastic chassis, they take a fair amount of abuse before they give. It's the pricing that's so far off, it's offensive. 

 

The hub failure that Jaytee suffered was not acceptable, just shouldn't have happened. 

 

Basher-queen has now bought a Maxx, cooling fan failed first run! No other breakages yet. She's now moved to the states. 

Edited October 15, 2019 by Tug

4 hours ago, mond said:

 

 

No one is calling the Maxx rubbish, they are stating it's over priced for what it is, given Traxxas isn't exactly a premium brand either and it's aimed at the same market as the Arrma 6S cars. The same people who went and bought the Arrma 6S bashers are going to buy this, or at least consider it and do exactly the same things with it, except put 6S in it, not that i probably needs 6S anyway. 

who said it’s aimed a  the 6s Arrma range I’d say it’s aimed moe towards what it is a 1/10 basher  and yet again I’ll state it’s better compared to the 4s Arrma range 

4 hours ago, m4inbrain said:

Hm, yeah. I don't understand either why someone would compare the new Traxxas RTR basher to the current most popular RTR basher out there. That makes no sense to me. Lets compare it to an Axial SCX10. Or maybe an MST MS01-D? 

 

And yes, of course there always will be more expensive vehicles. I just built a £800+ (all in all) RC crawler, and that's still "cheap" compared to monds Vanquish. Problem here being, that his Vanquish in many respects reflects that price too. I probably wouldn't argue that the Kit is worth literally twice the price of the Trail King, but it is the better vehicle. 

 

It really isn't a hard concept to grasp as to why people compare something that is clearly aimed at the same people as a Kraton, with a Kraton. 

 

That said: i do call the Maxx rubbish, for the price. I'd call a Kraton for £600 bad for the price too. In fact, my old Losi XXL2e was rubbish too for that kind of money. In fact it was rubbish in many aspects, still liked it. It's fine to enjoy something flawed - i did. The problem here is simply that some people can accept that they have a flawed, overpriced truck (like i did), and others have to bend over backwards to come up with bogus reasoning to justify the flaws and price. Btw, yeah, under extreme conditions a Kraton bends. You can buy the Kraton, a full M2C Goliath chassis and their milled alu shock braces that doesn't, and still get away cheaper. That's the point. 

 

To be clear: higher priced products are fine. I'm also very fond of my memories of spending way too much money on RCs. But if you get less for more money, that's where problems arise. It's the Apple conundrum. As i said: i actually don't mind the Maxx, i would buy one if priced accordingly. I wouldn't mind it breaking like that either (much). 

 

Just briefly in regards to scale, it obviously isn't a 1/10th. It's a 1/8th running 1/10th motor/esc. It's funny though since i vividly remember people arguing that the X-Maxx isn't a 1/8th just because it runs a 1/8th drivetrain (the original 6s), but it has to be 1/7th (some went as far to compare it with 1/6th and 1/5th) because it's so big. The Maxx is bigger than an Outcast 6s, Savage or MT4 G3. Just slightly smaller than a Savage XL, or the Kraton 6s. It's not an SCT either. It's 1/8th.

The maxx isn’t as big kraton it’s not even as big as the 4s kraton and smaller than the 1/8th Notorious so why do you think it’s 1/8th it is almost the size of a 1/10 sct 

 

I don’t think for one minute this is aimed at the kraton 6s it’s aimed directly at the Kraton 4s and if you look at the difference between these 2 trucks the price difference levels imo 

 

Yes the Kraton 6s may well be a top basher in the sales place and backyards I’m not arguing that for one minute but maybe your missing the point maybe this is aimed at those with a smaller bashing area and a different sales area and let’s not forget what you think maybe expensive dissent mean it is it’s just your views on the matter 

 

Personally I think this has a place on the market right in between the Arrma 4s range and the Tekno mt410 and slots in between rather nicely 👍

 

 

 

 

I agree the Maxx is closer in concept/design and also size to the 4S Kraton, but it's 200 quid more.  I suppose the question is... is it 200 quid better or more to point can it be marketed to be 200 quid more desirable.  Who knows, time will tell, and I'm sure 6 months from now, we'll all know if that would have been 200 quid well spent...

Yep spot on fella 

 

Reminds me of all those discussions around how the Tekno MT410 was over priced not  a true 1/10th scale not worth the coin etc etc but it soon became a huge hit and folks couldn’t get enough of it  

 

No point continuing with this your either going to like it think it’s worth the money and buy it or you going to not like it thinks it’s poor value and not buy it. I don’t work for Traxxas I don’t have any reason to argue the point and have nothing to gain from either Arrma or traxxas so carry on and argue amongst yourselves about a toy car none of you will buy 🤣🤣

 

Personally I love it hence why I’ve got one back on pre order after sorting out the light thing 👍🤣

Edited October 15, 2019 by mydoddy69

I personally think the Maxx looks pretty good. I very rarely buy new, so I am looking forward to seeing these on the secondhand market in the future.

To late deals gone 🥴

Edited October 18, 2019 by mydoddy69

Just being Nosy here. I saw on Instagram the Maxx is out tomorrow if you buy from Modelsports shop, but they cant mail order/post them till the 1st December,  any idea why?

I've "heard" .. that some people.. may have already been receiving their Maxx deliveries... even though the embargo says collection only until 1'st December.  

On 31/10/2019 at 18:00, Guns said:

Just being Nosy here. I saw on Instagram the Maxx is out tomorrow if you buy from Modelsports shop, but they cant mail order/post them till the 1st December,  any idea why?

 New Traxxas policy 😡👎