Traxxas E-Revo 2.0 & Solid Rear Axle 1/7th Scale Baja/Desert Style Truck

5 hours ago, Guns said:

Of Xmaxx chassis? Ive not saw one, so how is that relevant?

You brought up the xmaxx chassis. I simply mentioned that this type of chassis has known weaknesses and it's plastic. There's also more than a few posts about Traxxas plastic chassis snapping although not the xmaxx.

 

Looks like this forum is going the way of the official traxxas forums. Can't comment on a traxxas without a fanboy taking things out of context.

4 hours ago, sean-vrs said:

 

What buiness practice sucks? 

Hpi never chased/sued anybody, but now if you want a Baja you have to buy km because hpi are bust!!

traxxas are expensive but for me there models work and parts are plentifull, Losi never get slated, but a five with a pipe is now £1500++, I’m not a one make fanboi, but I am a fanboi of good rc models, Traxxas DJI Yuneec Losi  Hpi all make good expensive models

A clone is one thing, patent trolling is another. 

From memory, the only plastic chassis issue for traxxas (of any real significance) was on the LCG Slash, on the really narrow bit behind the front bulkhead. Never saw a snapped HCG one, or any other trx model for that matter. I mean have you seen what Kevin Talbot gets up to with his x-maxx and trx4? Never seen a snapped chassis just the odd peripheral bits & pieces, in fact he did bend the trx4 chassis rails once, but they're metal so he just hammered back straight(ish).

 

Having said that the UDR would be of little use to me, as most of my bashing these days is at the bmx track, big jumps etc, open wheels a distinct advantage. The new e-revo...well that's another story!

Hmm after watching that vid of the UDR I’ve kinda lost some interest if I’m honest, it’s a lot smaller than I imagined it would be and using the TRX 4 servo wow that really shows it’s size was hoping it would be in line with the Losi super Rey. This is more a 1/8 th scale sct size so not really as big as I wanted. By the looks and sound of it it’s running the old 6s x Maxx esc which had issues and only a 2200kv motor. Axles look a little small and it’s running 1/8th shocks. Looks amazing but the size is a massive let down for me Not sure on the tubular chassis design but I do love the detail and that’s a nice touch with the extra driveshaft. Might give this a first release miss and go with the Losi instead after all 

 

It will sell well there’s no denying that though hmm time for some serious thought on which to go for. 

 

All the info is now up on the Traxxas site 

 

https://traxxas.com/products/landing/unlimited-desert-racer/

 

 

1 hour ago, mydoddy69 said:

Hmm after watching that vid of the UDR I’ve kinda lost some interest if I’m honest, it’s a lot smaller than I imagined it would be and using the TRX 4 servo wow that really shows it’s size was hoping it would be in line with the Losi super Rey. This is more a 1/8 th scale sct size so not really as big as I wanted. By the looks and sound of it it’s running the old 6s x Maxx esc which had issues and only a 2200kv motor. Axles look a little small and it’s running 1/8th shocks. Looks amazing but the size is a massive let down for me Not sure on the tubular chassis design but I do love the detail and that’s a nice touch with the extra driveshaft. Might give this a first release miss and go with the Losi instead after all 

 

It will sell well there’s no denying that though hmm time for some serious thought on which to go for. 

The tube cage is on the Losi as well and it's a PITA. Without knowing how you access the internals on the Traxxarse I'd probably wait and see reviews of both first generation cars. I own a rock rey, the super Baja Rey is just a scaled up version of the same platform and I have some serious reservations about it. The front bulk head and third member have to be replaced almost immediately with the SSD version. The bearings are too small and the design means the housing warps. The whole thing is annoying to work on. If you've not watched it, check the Harley designs disassembly video for the Baja Rey, the super will be no different. I assume he'll do a traxxas one when he gets hold of it.  Probably also worth checking the rccrawler mega thread on it. 

Edited February 1, 2018 by mond

1 hour ago, mond said:

The tube cage is on the Losi as well and it's a PITA. Without knowing how you access the internals on the Traxxarse I'd probably wait and see reviews of both first generation cars. I own a rock rey, the super Baja Rey is just a scaled up version of the same platform and I have some serious reservations about it. The front bulk head and third member have to be replaced almost immediately with the SSD version. The bearings are too small and the design means the housing warps. The whole thing is annoying to work on. If you've not watched it, check the Harley designs disassembly video for the Baja Rey, the super will be no different. I assume he'll do a traxxas one when he gets hold of it.  Probably also worth checking the rccrawler mega thread on it. 

 

Your on the money fella think I’ll wait it out and let others play test dummy on both and go from there 

 

The Revo though well that’s getting added as I’ve always fancied one and now with the upgraded drivetrain looks like it’s the right time to get one. A bit like the v1 and V2 x Maxx should have waited for the V2 but oh well live and learn 

You had to wait the best part of a decade for a revo v2 though. Not sure why people would want it. Theres's dozens of 6S capable, ultra reliable truggies out there already and none of them come with two servos. That's just daft imho.

Reading the fine detail "Triangulated 4-link rear suspension with solid rear axle (patent pending)".  

2 minutes ago, mond said:

Reading the fine detail "Triangulated 4-link rear suspension with solid rear axle (patent pending)".  

 

Really! So they will be suing every RC company with a crawler/scaler in their line up next

That looks a fantastic effort - really nice truck.

Nearly the size of the X-Maxx as well at 694 mm long.

 

Are there any side-by-side photos?  This alongside the 'X'?

 

Al.

39 minutes ago, mond said:

Reading the fine detail "Triangulated 4-link rear suspension with solid rear axle (patent pending)".  

 

That's hilarious....patenting a product design you did not invent.....oh traxxas.....it's almost sad....

 

Part of the business model is to scare other RC companies from ever releasing a product again I suspect....

 

Just like when they sued for the laydown suspension setup......the same setup tenth technology, tamiya and others used 10 years previously to traxxas using said design.....

 

Most of these patent rulings are presided in Texas, a state known to side with plaintiff....if they originated in Texas that is...yeeee haaaaw!

 

The Gaul on those people is staggering,  I hope one day...they become unstuck by their own doing....

 

https://patents.justia.com/assignee/traxxas-lp

 

https://traxxas.com/pat

Them guys at Modelsport are quick 

 

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/traxxas-unlimited-desert-racer-pro-scale-4wd-orange/rc-car-products/427739

 

27th of March ! 

11 minutes ago, Fly In My Soup said:

 

That's hilarious....patenting a product design you did not invent.....oh traxxas.....it's almost sad....

 

Part of the business model is to scare other RC companies from ever releasing a product again I suspect....

 

Just like when they sued for the laydown suspension setup......the same setup tenth technology, tamiya and others used 10 years previously to traxxas using said design.....

 

Most of these patent rulings are presided in Texas, a state known to side with plaintiff....if they originated in Texas that is...yeeee haaaaw!

 

The Gaul on those people is staggering,  I hope one day...they become unstuck by their own doing....

 

https://patents.justia.com/assignee/traxxas-lp

 

https://traxxas.com/pat

Hilarious but also sad. Perhaps the main reason that puts me off giving this company any money. 

They are filthy screw traxxas. There my axles axial. Axial should file a claim first. While at it say they own all scale trucks so squash the trx4.  Or sit back and wait till they kill the scx10. 

 

Push rod suspension is the same i swear i heard of a 50 or 60s or earlier shockingly early anyway when it was first used. 

 

Heres what im looking for from these new rcs. 

 

Design. Are they focussed on locking down to trx only. How much.

Are the elecs traxxas junk as usual. Who supplies traxxas? Ok xmaxx 8s combo seems good. 

 

Diffs have they once again chosen diffs that are 50/50 this one lasts 50runs but this one lasts 5 runs. Traxxas diffs must be a top profit item shocks too. Well the spares for them anyway. 

 

Gimmics to boost the rrp. Well it uses the latest technology using a device you dont want. 

 

(What was that deal between traxxas and iphone anyway? We'll just add suppprt or we'll make a deal with Apple. I doubt apple would care about a deal between them. So mayb traxxas just used it anyway. The stuff they'd flush profits for in court against rival. 

 

I bet the new trucks will be awesome WOW even. But buying them tells traxxas to carry on. So i wont desire them even though i always wanted a beast Erevo but think i missed the boat. So v2 would be sweet. But no. Not until traxxas quits its court room ambitious plans to bust legit brands we could love too. 

 

Arrma and durango was highly rated ive not owned any but hate that traxxas shut them dpwn. Arrma could come out with something to truly rival traxxas in the future. Even now arrma vs traxxas debate is heated. So imagine arrma in ten years.  

 

Mayb arrma has been doing the exact thing traxxas did to get a foothold on the market. Didnt traxxas copy others rcs not just parts. The traxxas 5th scale looks loosly copied from the fg marder. 

 

Ive had it with traxxas lol. Love the rcs hate the practices. If i do get anything it will be used and have to have upgrades available for the traxxas junk parts they want us to keep replacing with the same trx part. 

 

I hope many others feel the same way and atleast an echo gets through to them. At xmaxx launch they was sky high but falling fast. Now they are hovering just outside the window batteries blinking lol. 

 

 

I heard the new plastic traxxas is making is space age plastic tested from the ice mountains to dunes to prove reliable in all weather. 

 

I wonder if they just boil the parts before installation lol. 

8 hours ago, mond said:

You brought up the xmaxx chassis. I simply mentioned that this type of chassis has known weaknesses and it's plastic. There's also more than a few posts about Traxxas plastic chassis snapping although not the xmaxx.

 

Looks like this forum is going the way of the official traxxas forums. Can't comment on a traxxas without a fanboy taking things out of context.

You said, without even seeing the new UDR, ‘it has a plasic chassis’. Insinuating its going to be a problem. All I stated was everyone said that the Xmaxx having a plastic chassis would be an issue, but it wasn’t? Thats all.

 

TBH Mate, Traxxas look like theyre gonna be the only RC company left anyway..

3 hours ago, mydoddy69 said:

 

Your on the money fella think I’ll wait it out and let others play test dummy on both and go from there 

 

The Revo though well that’s getting added as I’ve always fancied one and now with the upgraded drivetrain looks like it’s the right time to get one. A bit like the v1 and V2 x Maxx should have waited for the V2 but oh well live and learn 

This is where Im at. Honestly the UDR/that style of rc does nothing for me, and if I was spending £800ish, id just get another Xmaxx

 

However, Im having a hard time discounting the E Revo 2.0 as a roller....

1 hour ago, Guns said:

You said, without even seeing the new UDR, ‘it has a plasic chassis’. Insinuating its going to be a problem. All I stated was everyone said that the Xmaxx having a plastic chassis would be an issue, but it wasn’t? Thats all.

 

TBH Mate, Traxxas look like theyre gonna be the only RC company left anyway..

The day traxxarse are the only rc company left (heaven forbid) will be the day i turn my back on this hobby..i refuse to support a company that behaves the way they do. They wont be seeing another penny of my hard earned. 

 

Wow come on you can’t blame Traxxas for everything I’m no fan boy far from it but seriously I thought this was about there new releases not a TRAXXAS HATE THREAD lol 

 

You can always rely on a Traxxas  thread to warm your cockles up on a cold winters morning   

 

   

2 hours ago, RCbutcher said:

They are filthy screw traxxas.

 

That's a wee bit hard line

 

I feel I must say in traxxas Lp's defence, that with an ever evolving market, a company that wants to succeed MUST attempt to protect itself against being undermined by its own intellectual property........ i am of course referring to the worrying trend of eastern companies blatantly cloning rc models (models that took significant investment to develop) and re selling them as they're "own" at a cheaper price....... Sadly they're seemingly immune from prosecution from the Chinese government, who always side with the Chinese company if anyone tries to sue for c. Infringement(ref., BMW, Prada, apple, Gucci etc etc) so the only companies left vulnerable to being liable and thus sued it western based companies (armma,hobbico  etc)

 

On balance , many would question the actual validity of patenting something they didn't invent, .....although technically as they're patenting the application its applied to and not the part itself, in some cases, they're perfectly entitled too.....

 

So really this is just an insight into how cutthroat an industry this has now become, its just traxxas's (slightly misguided) approach to surviving in the industry in these times...

 

Edited February 1, 2018 by Fly In My Soup

2 hours ago, Guns said:

You said, without even seeing the new UDR, ‘it has a plasic chassis’. Insinuating its going to be a problem. All I stated was everyone said that the Xmaxx having a plastic chassis would be an issue, but it wasn’t? Thats all.

 

TBH Mate, Traxxas look like theyre gonna be the only RC company left anyway..

The pictures of the chassis were pretty clear and those sorts of chassis with a thin front end like that do pose design problems. I've owned several cars with them and they all had inherent weaknesses due to it. Just look at all the parts for the Yeti to strengthen that front end. There's even an entire replacement for it. 

 

1 minute ago, Fly In My Soup said:

 

That's a wee bit hard line

 

I feel I must say in traxxas Lp's defence, that with an ever evolving market, a company that wants to succeed MUST attempt to protect itself against being undermined by its own intellectual property........ i am of course referring to the worrying trend of eastern companies blatantly cloning rc models (models that took significant investment to develop) and re selling them as they're "own" at a cheaper price....... Sadly they're seemingly immune from prosecution from the Chinese government, who always side with the Chinese company if anyone tries to sue for c. Infringement(ref., BMW, Prada, apple, Gucci etc etc) so the only companies left vulnerable to being liable and thus sued it western based companies (armma,hobbico  etc)

 

On balance , many would say the actual validity of patenting something they didn't invent, .....although technically as they're patenting the application its applied to and not the part itself, in some cases, they're perfectly entitled too.....

 

So really this is just an insight into how cutthroat an industry this has now become, its just traxxas's (slightly misguided) approach to surviving in the industry in these times...

 

 

One day they'll do it to the wrong company. Traxxas is rich, but it's not Ford rich. In the US though they have some really daft patent and copyright rules, meaning that there's an endless cycle of renewing them. 

Lmao,

so you see the perfect Rc, it does everything you want in a Rc so naturally your not going to buy it because of the company behind?

makes no sense at all???

 

reading a little into the whole traxxas lawsuit with arma was, arma copied the geometry and rockers, not the lay down set up.

the rockers were a exact copy so in summary arma had the opportunity to slightly change its product, but they carried on.

 

also in today’s market, it’s survival of the fittest, im sure if anyone of you owned Traxxas, would you risk a few million after riding the gravy boat for so long? I think not. You would want your business and products to be around for a long time.

 

how about the dyson debate, same thing there.....

 

at at the end of the day though, ifs your money your choice, a good debate is also a good thing but let’s not start the Traxxas witch hunt, it’s getting very tiring now..... 

50 minutes ago, mond said:

The pictures of the chassis were pretty clear and those sorts of chassis with a thin front end like that do pose design problems. I've owned several cars with them and they all had inherent weaknesses due to it. Just look at all the parts for the Yeti to strengthen that front end. There's even an entire replacement for it. 

 

That may well be the case. But you dont know its going to be a problem just because the Yeti failed in that area. I remember the hundred or so page Xmaxx release thread, with pages and pages of comments from people who had no intention of even buying one moaning about the chassis been plastic..... it turned out to be a complete no issue for the people who actually bought an X.

 

Theres no gun held to anyones head to buy a Traxxas of course there isnt. Unfortunately they do seem to be one of a few companies putting out anything new and Interesting lately so looks like theyll be getting my money?