Kpowell911 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232702467256?ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2F0%2F0%3Fmpre%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.co.uk%252Fulk%252Fitm%252F232702467256%26rvr_id%3D0&ul_noapp=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/17/2018 at 20:09, Guns said: Now this is directly from an admittedly Biased Traxxas forum but look at this undershot: The two rear trail arms are longer on the Traxxas even though its smaller, which Im guessing translates into more suspension travel? Again this is on a Traxxas forum, but the general consensus was the Losi feels quite cheap compared with the Traxxas and the Traxxas has superior suspension travel, which I guess is very important on this sort of vehicle? Ignoring the higher end 5ive and 8ights, it wouldnt be the first time Ive heard of Losi’s being a drop off in quality since before. I wqs never really impressed with my last Losi SCBE, so who knows. Its a Traxxas forum after all? More pictures however https://forums.traxxas.com/showthread.php?9081923-Traxxas-UDR-Comparison-Pictures That's the Traxxarse forum. Your post will literally be deleted unless you post like a fan boy. There's videos now if the UDR going round a track and it suffers from similar issues to the Yeti Score i.e. nosing into the dirt on every landing and the shocks are way too soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Tuning the shocks to reduce rear suspension kick when jumping should help reduce that. Pretty much any car can suffer from that if the suspension is too plush. The Losi still looks far more impressive, but that's a given based on its size. A proper side by side review is really needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just another thought, but the ramp, built or natural berm, really needs to be longer than the wheelbase of the vehicle in question, this greatly reduces the risk of that dreaded rear kick that'll flip the car end over end. Short ramps are notorious for causing this, so I avoid that type of ramp when bashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieNZ Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 17/03/2018 at 20:09, Guns said: Now this is directly from an admittedly Biased Traxxas forum but look at this undershot: The two rear trail arms are longer on the Traxxas even though its smaller, which Im guessing translates into more suspension travel? Again this is on a Traxxas forum, but the general consensus was the Losi feels quite cheap compared with the Traxxas and the Traxxas has superior suspension travel, which I guess is very important on this sort of vehicle? Ignoring the higher end 5ive and 8ights, it wouldnt be the first time Ive heard of Losi’s being a drop off in quality since before. I wqs never really impressed with my last Losi SCBE, so who knows. Its a Traxxas forum after all? More pictures however https://forums.traxxas.com/showthread.php?9081923-Traxxas-UDR-Comparison-Pictures The length of the shocks govern the amount of travel not the length of the arms. The traxxas has more travel because they've mounted the shocks 3/4 of the way up the arms compared only about a 1/3 of the way on the Losi. The way Losi have done it will offer superior handling, tunability and reliability. The amount of leverage the traxxas can apply to the shocks is huge, a high motion ratio can make shock tuning very difficult and lead to premature shock fading. Trying to stiffen up the back end will put more stress on the trailing arms leading to them bending or breaking where the shock attaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I’ve just order one from Wheelspin, should be arriving tomorrow 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I think I'm more excited than you! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 The small Reys came with grease in the diffs. May want to check the SBR, since they are identical mechanically. The stock bearings were also rubbish so that may be something to look out for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) On 21/03/2018 at 07:32, .AJ. said: I’ve just order one from Wheelspin, should be arriving tomorrow Well this is exciting. I am also in Basingstoke and I just got my SBR today (The one from the eBay listing above!) Took it for its maiden a while ago! We will need to meet up! Edited March 22, 2018 by Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Thom said: Well this is exciting. I am also in Basingstoke and I just got my SBR today (The one from the eBay listing above!) Took it for its maiden a while ago! We will need to meet up! Initial thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Small world! I’m just waiting on a 6s lipo, nothing I’ve got fitted properly, when I’m up and running I’ll give you a shout, oh and welcome to the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tug said: Initial thoughts? Seems good so far. I will need to tweak the servo alignment, as trim has to be nearly full right on the DX2 to go straight. Shouldn't be too much issue, just that damn cage. It's bloody fast, which is awesome. Everything on it is a damn sight chunkier than i expected. I know there was some concerns about the rear drive shaft being plastic with metal links. However, this is really heavy duty plastic and isn't snapping anytime soon. I'm not really a massive basher when it comes to jumps. I prefer scale (If I launched a truck the approx scale height of 40ft in real life, it will defo break (not sure why we expect different from RC) - I will be wiring mine up with FPV in the Cab between the drivers Defo more substanial than the UDR. Even the plastic parts on the Losi feel better than the UDR (I work for a Drone manufacturer so am used to feeling materials) - The Traxxas plastic feels like it has less tolerence in it - the plus side is, the UDR has less weight. The fact I got the SBR for £650.00 brand new (It had been run once - it still smells new!) - WITH 2 brand new 5000mah 3s Dynamite LiPos - It was a big win for me. I was so torn between the UDR and the SBR - but the fact I saved like £450 over a UDR purchase and iD batteries, I'm really happy. Hopefully can get some bits to improve the scale look (Such as extinguishers) from Knight Customs or something. 16 minutes ago, .AJ. said: Small world! I’m just waiting on a 6s lipo, nothing I’ve got fitted properly, when I’m up and running I’ll give you a shout, oh and welcome to the forum You running a single LiPo? Do you also have the EC5 loop for solo? That's a negative for the SBR - as Traxxas includes the loop to run a single 6S liPo - Horizon does not. And thank you for the Welcome. Dipping my toe back into Ground vehicles. Last one I had was the Baja 5b about 5 years ago. Leccy stuff has come a long way since without the noise, mess and hassle of Petrol - even if I do miss the sound! Also the battery door foam is annoying. You really have to compress it to get the hard case 5000mah 3S past it. I'm looking at Soft case alternatives. What LiPos are you looking at? May help me also! Edited March 22, 2018 by Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 That’s another job for me to do lol... I got a bag EC5’s in the post today to make up a loop and to swap over the connectors on packs I’ve just bought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, .AJ. said: That’s another job for me to do lol... I got a bag EC5’s in the post today to make up a loop and to swap over the connectors on packs I’ve just bought Yeh - I am looking at other LiPos too. Obviously the manufacturers I know and use are for Drones. Who makes the best bang for buck 5000+ packs that are readily avaliable in the UK? I seen a few on eBay such as Zippy's and Turnigy's which their pre-modify for you with the EC5. I just wonder if the C rating is high enough ( with Drones we want 85c+) - Is 35c good enough for the SBR if not constantly full throttle. I know they are 35c but have a higher burst rating. £110 for a single Dynamite 5000mah is day light robbery. Edited March 22, 2018 by Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 50c is pretty much the norm and the minimum I would buy.. I was recommend these and its what I have on the way, the UK warehouse didn’t have stock, so they are coming for the EU warehouse instead, obviously I’ll have to swap over the connectors https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-battery-heavy-duty-5000mah-6s-60c-lipo-pack-xt-90.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobFandango Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 So would you choose this over the Losi DBXL-E? What would make you want this above that? Just wondering as my next RC will probably be a buggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 The DBXLE is larger, heavier, does 8S. It does have great aftermarket support and is a cheaper end of the 5th scales to run. However it's a proper 5th scale, so massive and brushless at that weight is expensive as it will eat battery packs in 10-15 minutes. It's also easy to work on - I've got a Rock Rey, which is just a smaller SBR really and it's a PITA. However, the SBR being lighter will be easier on batteries for sure and the large body shell will protect it in crashes. Also probably less of a pain to move about. Also looks great and the design is really solid in terms of robustness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, RobFandango said: So would you choose this over the Losi DBXL-E? What would make you want this above that? Just wondering as my next RC will probably be a buggy I chose it over the DBXL-E due to 1. Cost 2. Size 3. Weight - it chews through packs real quick. If the DBXL was same weight and size I’d of gone for that. All valid points. The annoyance is the cage. These do run 8s but not really for bashing. They destroy tyres with 8S also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mond Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Gotta get good tyres with zero growth foams just like with real cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 If these are an unusual size, it might be a while before third party options are available. X-Maxx options took ages to appear, possibly because manufacturers wanted to see if the truck was going to stick around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 So there is an annoyance in battery tray design . As it doesn’t have a front bumper, when you lift it onto it’s nose to put batteries in (rather than put its weight on its roof) the lexan gets squashed and I’ve slightly cracked it above the wheel arch - which is bloody annoying. Nothing major but an annoyance. So make sure you lay it on its roof when putting the batteries in.rest of the truck is holding up well! had another good run today. Batteries are charging before another run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.AJ. Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I started a owners thread here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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