locky Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I mentioned in previous posts that you can get a brushless motor and ESC for about £25 from far east ebay sellers. I'm using these in same model with no problems and fastest I've used is 5200Kv on 2S, I dont bother measuring speed, just know when fast is too fast for either my talent or car can no longer handle it. I've not had a problem with water but I dont take my cars swimming, just usual ground moisture. You wont get ballistic speeds due to gearing which is fixed, but it will be seem significant compared to stock 27T can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 What gearing options do you have in the WT-01? Is it limited/fixed like other Budget Tamiya models? im a big fan of a lower KV and gearing up if you're allowed hence why I think a 3800kv would be perfect, you could possibly go higher however, with a decrease in torque. You can can get a cheap brushless set up from the Far East, and these work well (ez run60a esc with a suitable motor) I just linked to some proven set ups from UK based `Modelsport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Your servo is waterproof right? Is your reciever waterproofed or in a box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Guns said: Your servo is waterproof right? Is your reciever waterproofed or in a box? yep the box says waterproof receiver (not in a box). I think the servo is waterproof too ( Turnigy Power HD 1501MG ) QUICRUN 3656 and QUICRUN WP-10BL60 cost soo much anything cheaper ? Edited November 21, 2016 by BlackHole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locky Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, BlackHole said: waterproof Usually means splash proof. They'e not IP rated (ingress Protection). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITO Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) Standard pinion is 18T giving a final drive ratio of approx 18:1, a 20T pinion which is the option, drops that to 16:1, you can get an aftermarket high speed gear set which allows a 23 or 25T pinion, which will give a lowest FDR of 12.75:1 Tyres are 130mm diameter. Edited November 21, 2016 by NITO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, Guns said: What gearing options do you have in the WT-01? Is it limited/fixed like other Budget Tamiya models? I don't know anything about gearing. Will a opened gearbox picture helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITO Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I've summarised it above, stock WT will do 14mph on silvercan. My 4300kv on 2S does nigh on 30mph. 3S will give it a load more speed and I'm currently working on a 50mph+ model but not convinced the chassis will stay in a straight line!! Tbh, 30mph is more than enough in one of these and it flies off road! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, BlackHole said: I don't know anything about gearing. Will a opened gearbox picture helps? Nito has summarised it. Whats the budget for Brushless if you go for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Guns said: Whats the budget for Brushless if you go for it? less than £30 including motor £25 would be amazing Edited November 21, 2016 by BlackHole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITO Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 A lovely HPI MH4000 setup went on ebay for £51 the other day, motor and esc!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITO Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hobbywing-EZRUN-60A-SL-Brushless-ESC-9T-3650-4300KV-Motor-1-10-RC-Car-Combo-B6-/181917206298?hash=item2a5b1c471a:g:B~gAAOSw5VFWMruL Edited November 21, 2016 by NITO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, BlackHole said: less than £30 including motor Ok, personally I'd save till you have more. I cant vouch for set ups like this but they should work on paper.. 3650 (quite short) motor http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GoolRC-S3660-3800KV-4-Poles-Brushless-Sensorless-Motor-for-1-8-1-10-RC-Car-Y2W2-/222144486521?hash=item33b8d7dc79:g:H1EAAOSwnNBXVi~d Waterproof esc http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Waterproof-60A-Brushless-ESC-Speed-Controller-w-6V-2A-BEC-for-1-10-RC-Car-E8N7-/322172164809?hash=item4b02f51ac9:g:aXkAAOSwjXRXcOmF from China though, so might not be here for Xmas and basically no warranty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Guns said: Ok, personally I'd save till you have more. I cant vouch for set ups like this but they should work on paper.. well, I can go for this right now but I could go for less than £50 late December/Jan... Edited November 21, 2016 by BlackHole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, NITO said: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hobbywing-EZRUN-60A-SL-Brushless-ESC-9T-3650-4300KV-Motor-1-10-RC-Car-Combo-B6-/181917206298?hash=item2a5b1c471a:g:B~gAAOSw5VFWMruL I'm not sure if I'm ready for that kind of money for at least two years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, BlackHole said: well, I can go for this right now but I could go for less than £50 late December/Jan... Should be fine, the motor is short however. Ive just no idea of the quality of the esc, and its from the Far East so if it breaks/is rubbish, it's gone. I buy most of my motors from China, ESC'S from Modelsport, unless its Castle then I use Tower Hobbies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locky Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I ordered this last month and arrived in less than 2 weeks....http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262471314698?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Also use this ESC...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Racing-60A-ESC-Brushless-Electric-Speed-Controller-For-1-10-RC-Car-Truck-UR-/401183637734?hash=item5d686880e6:g:-rwAAOSwdU1W-IiZ IMO not worth spending loads on this car, less than £25 for above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV Pilot Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Guns said: Check the descriptions of the ones Ive linked.... I honestly can't understand why you bought that Brushed esc but hey... The Quikrun 1060 brushed ESC was recommended as a cheap waterproof BEC-equipped LiPo-ready replacement for the non-waterproof BEC-less LiPo cutoff-less stock Tamiya ESC, and in this capacity I still believe it was a good purchase, allowing the OP to get his rig mobile in all weathers for minimal outlay. I apologise if my support of the Quikrun 1060 ESC is seen as a waste of the OP's money, but in my defence, I thought budget was a priority. We can't all afford £700 E-Revos! In my experience, cheap sensored systems are smooth but hardly ever waterproof, while cheap sensorless systems are sometimes waterproof but can be underpowered and prone to cogging, especially in a biggish rig, so you'd want a good one. A good waterproof sensorless system such as those recommended by previous respondents would be great I agree, but is a lot more expensive than a £15ish Quikrun 1060 and a silver can that came free with the kit! So, if I was in the OP's shoes and really wanted brushless power, I would save for a good brushless system, and if desperate for a performance boost in the interim, fit a 17t budget brushed motor for now, such as the Absima recommended by Johninderby earlier in the thread. Edited November 22, 2016 by XV Pilot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 10 hours ago, Guns said: You can probably get better, but something like this would be great I think http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Radient-Reaktor-Brushless-3500KV-Electric-Motor-and-ESC-Combo-Upgrade-/171817604346?hash=item28012094fa:g:CRAAAOSwd0BVsbVk 2 pole combo, very underpowered in a 4wd, speaking from experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV Pilot Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Noj said: 2 pole combo, very underpowered in a 4wd, speaking from experience. The OP's WT-01 is 2WD, but quite a big 2WD, so your point remains valid IMO. Edited November 22, 2016 by XV Pilot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) The brushed stock motor I have can be run in underwater, mud, with dirty stuff going in the motor holes without damaging it? But not brushless motor? Is that correct? The quicrun 1060 was good. And XV Pilot, budget was a priority (so its not waste of money) Remember? this is my very first hobbygrade car I bought without experience but help with you guys. I'm still considering to buy electronics as I already have a new unused stock esc in the box waiting to be powered. Note that I'm not doing a job yet (still in uni) So not alot of money to spend. in conclution, I think I will enjoy the power I have for now, may be buy that cheap absima/LRP brushed motor for twice the power... will save money for the next car + a brushless system. how does that sound? Edited November 22, 2016 by BlackHole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Ha ha, realised my error whilst showering.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Sounds like you're best bet would be to get the Absima motor as it would really improve the performance and not cost much. Then you could start saving for something with more capabilities. John 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locky Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Last word...I'm using same car with said gear, not had any probs to date, 4 pole motor and non-waterproof ESC, 4WD or 2WD. Dont get hung up on water proof. The ESC is high on chassis and you can reduce water ingress by other means if really concerned. Of course it all depends how you drive it, how often you drive it and where. This is a beginners car to learn on and not robust enough to take really heavy bashing. More poles should give more torque. There's many answers to a simple question, digest the suggestions and then take a leap of faith based on your criteria, try it out and learn and have fun from doing it, whether it's right first time or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I'm considering buying John's and dropping a bl combo in, just to prove what can be achieved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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