53HRA Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Specification currently awaiting.Source: Teamsaxo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Tyrrell? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Ken would be smiling at this!! Get the original body as an option I reckon. Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behappy2755 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 F1 future?! I promise everyone that F1 will never ever have four wheels at the front for steering. This looks like a 5 year old's dream racing machine not a F1 car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthoop Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 F1 future?! I promise everyone that F1 will never ever have four wheels at the front for steering. This looks like a 5 year old's dream racing machine not a F1 car! You know there was a F1 car like that?....maybe one day it will happen again...who knows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrrell_Racing#mediaviewer/File:ScheckterJody1976-07-31Tyrrell-FordP34.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex97 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It looks more like a batmobile than an f1 car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behappy2755 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You know there was a F1 car like that?....maybe one day it will happen again...who knows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrrell_Racing#mediaviewer/File:ScheckterJody1976-07-31Tyrrell-FordP34.jpg Oh. I never knew. I read that it was developed to reduce aerodynamic drag of the front wheels, increase the road to tyre area, and spread out the brakes. But today brakes and tyres are good anyway, and this design would only cause steering problems as the wheels would want to spin at different rates, not mentioning it would make the pit-stop time longer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroholic Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The current F1 rules also forbid it. Tyrell tried the 6 wheel layout with 4 at the front, March tried it with 4 at the rear, to reduce the size of rear wheels and reduce drag without loss of contact patch. Lots of things have been tried...but most have been banned. 4WD, ground effect, fans to suck a car onto the track etc. etc. I presume F1 RC racing has less restrictive rulebooks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatout! Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You know there was a F1 car like that?....maybe one day it will happen again...who knows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrrell_Racing#mediaviewer/File:ScheckterJody1976-07-31Tyrrell-FordP34.jpg i seen that 6 wheeled race car at Silverstone when i was a kid, thanks that brings good memories back, 4 wheel steering lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINSET Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Chevron have been making this shell since 2002 at least http://www.ccn3.aitai.ne.jp/~chevron/115-challenge.htm It was originally made for a modified Tamiya F103 chassis; http://www.ccn3.aitai.ne.jp/~chevron/F103gt.htm http://www.ccn3.aitai.ne.jp/~chevron/cyber-series.htm Edited January 11, 2015 by TWINSET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroholic Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 http://jalopnik.com/5530175/the-life-and-death-of-the-six-wheeled-race-car couple of vids on here of the P34 in action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 At the time, Ken's idea was a smaller frontal area, giving less air / wind resistance, and potentially more front grip. It was quite successful if I remember, but changing 6 wheels is never going to be as fast as changing 4 ... Of course 'pre-Bernie' or not, politics saw the end of it ..... Still, it was great at hillclimbs as well. Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behappy2755 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 ...Also makes the car much heavier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'd like to see them change all 6 wheels in 2.5 seconds or less!! Looks like there are normal nuts on them! Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetoR Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 i seen that 6 wheeled race car at Silverstone when i was a kid, thanks that brings good memories back, 4 wheel steering lol! Yeah, so did I. 2001 perchance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieC Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) ...Also makes the car much heavier Not massively so, have you ever felt how heavy a racing car's wheel actually is? It would only be a couple of extra kg, which they can then take out of the ballast they put in anyway. So actual weight change would be negligible And also, If they put in the 6 extra pit crew or so, It wouldn't add any time, just more chance of time being added. If that makes sense. Edited January 12, 2015 by ReggieC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 At the time, 7 second wheel changes were good. Don't see this ducking below 3 seconds as they do now 'though!! Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behappy2755 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Not massively so, have you ever felt how heavy a racing car's wheel actually is? It would only be a couple of extra kg, which they can then take out of the ballast they put in anyway. So actual weight change would be negligible And also, If they put in the 6 extra pit crew or so, It wouldn't add any time, just more chance of time being added. If that makes sense. Well, extra brake disks and calipers, wheel hubs, differentials, suspension arms and springs, and the steering mechanism for 4 wheels might make a slight difference to weight. But I agree with you that the wheels only would not really affect it. And also... It would be harder to change the tyres in a busy space especially when passing the new tyres and taking the old ones away. Another problem would be that you would have to have very soft differentials for the front wheels, which would mean you would need to do that also for the rear to eliminate the huge over-steer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthoop Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The front wheels are not driven....no diffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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