vortex666 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hi guys,still looking for my first 1/5 petrol scale,and when i almost had made my decision (KM baja truck T1000a) from rcmodelz,i found the rovan short course (5ive t clone)..so wanted to have a look at prices and compare whats better to me..but,seems that there are nobody selling them in uk.....does anybody own any of these??btw,i plan to run it mostly on a quarry,general bashing,and a visit to the track once a month just to meet up with the other lads..any advice will be very helpfull guysThanksSent from my iPhone ? using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Instead of buying Rovan parts, put your money here... It's exactly the same thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.K Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex666 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Says it all bud!so km t1000a sounds good to start?Sent from my iPhone ? using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex666 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Instead of buying Rovan parts, put your money here... It's exactly the same thing. Looks like you ve thrown some in there right? Sent from my iPhone ? using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 KMs are a good way into large scale RCs definitely Avoid Rovan and Integy. Also avoid buying things listed on eBay such as "machined CNC alloy"... Basically it's just the cheapest crappest alloy going, they try making it sound good by calling it CNC machined rather than cast, but it's still junk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex666 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hmm..thanks for the advice bud! Sent from my iPhone ? using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 No problem at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perruzo Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Out of interest oh how original.....why would you avoid Rovan but recommend KM, they are both about the same IMO. Do you know something particular to Rovan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Out of interest oh how original.....why would you avoid Rovan but recommend KM, they are both about the same IMO. Do you know something particular to Rovan? They simply aren't the same at all. KM of old yes, they where about equal and that's where KM get a bad rap from. But the newer version Bajas way surpass any Baja that Rovan make. Having owned both, that's my honest opinion and my current one was originally a KM, I can say without question it's better than the Rovan was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(-:AD:-) Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Rovan may of upped their quality the same as KM Edited April 8, 2014 by (-:AD:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watchman Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Nevermind the rovan v km debate, what worries me more is who the hell takes pics of grids????? Lolol weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Rovan may of upped their quality the same as KM Nope, they haven't. Nevermind the rovan v km debate, what worries me more is who the hell takes pics of grids????? Lolol weird. No idea mate I just found it on Google Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watchman Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Nope, they haven't. No idea mate I just found it on Google lololol i didnt think it was you buddy :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Thing is, I did think it was OHO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Thing is, I did think it was OHO... Not recognize it from outside your house? rofl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossyra Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Getting weird in here ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perruzo Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 They simply aren't the same at all. KM of old yes, they where about equal and that's where KM get a bad rap from. But the newer version Bajas way surpass any Baja that Rovan make. Having owned both, that's my honest opinion and my current one was originally a KM, I can say without question it's better than the Rovan was. I have owned a KM, and still own what's left of it after around about 7 years of bashing. I haven't had a Rovan but a guy who comes to the NEB bashes has a Rovan and it's been spot on so far. What exactly is the difference in quality? Is it better alloys or plastics, or did the Rovan fall to bits etc, what exactly makes you say to avoid them? I was considering buying a Rovan item, not a full car though so I'm interested in what specifically puts you off. And my KM (of old) was one of the first very early models and it has parts that have outlasted genuine hpi items so saying that KM got a bad rap from these early models is slightly wrong, as I recall the early models had decent engines, then KM changed the crankcase to a new design and the engines overnight became garbage fillers, So if they have improved again somewhat since then it has me curious as to what they have changed to set themselves apart from Rovan. For the record, my km 23 engine is still working fine after all these years, only prob I ever had was a split in the fuel line. And that's some going for an engine IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) I have owned a KM, and still own what's left of it after around about 7 years of bashing. I haven't had a Rovan but a guy who comes to the NEB bashes has a Rovan and it's been spot on so far. What exactly is the difference in quality? Is it better alloys or plastics, or did the Rovan fall to bits etc, what exactly makes you say to avoid them? I was considering buying a Rovan item, not a full car though so I'm interested in what specifically puts you off. And my KM (of old) was one of the first very early models and it has parts that have outlasted genuine hpi items so saying that KM got a bad rap from these early models is slightly wrong, as I recall the early models had decent engines, then KM changed the crankcase to a new design and the engines overnight became garbage fillers, So if they have improved again somewhat since then it has me curious as to what they have changed to set themselves apart from Rovan. For the record, my km 23 engine is still working fine after all these years, only prob I ever had was a split in the fuel line. And that's some going for an engine IMO. Every Rovan part I've had has been absolute junk, everyone I've known so far to have them hasn't liked them and has either sold it or upgraded it to the point it's no longer a Rovan, simple as that really, I'd never waste my money on Rovan, whether it be parts or a whole Baja having owned both, but to each his own, if someones having joy with one, then more power to him! He got a good deal, I've just personally had nothing but bad experience with Rovan, and won't be using them again. I didn't say I'D given KM a bad rap, but they DO have a bad rap, that isn't wrong, it's simple fact. I personally like KMs, so it's not me personally, but the fact is people judge them by their old stuff, which apparently was crap, I never actually owned one back then, so I can't comment, I'm going by friends who owned them years ago. Again, it isn't me personally saying they have a bad rap from back then, but they simply do... Fact, no two ways about that. Engine wise, mine has been spot on, it's hard 9 hard tanks of mostly flat out running and just over a tank of bashing, it's performed flawlessly to be completely honest and it's currently acting as my back up long block. Again, their old engines didn't have the best of reputation, mainly the terrible plating on the bore, but they now seem to have improved because my bore, piston and ring all look fine, original bearings and after 9 tanks theirs no play whatsoever. I'd gladly spend another Edited April 8, 2014 by Oh How Original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill79 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 If it was me I'd root around for second hand hpi baja. I've bought a few decent ones in the past for little more than the price of a km here's an example of one plenty of upgrades and pretty much unused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 If it was me I'd root around for second hand hpi baja. I've bought a few decent ones in the past for little more than the price of a km here's an example of one plenty of upgrades and pretty much unused The ones that are for sale on here at the moment are stupid money. Ones that go on eBay generally tend to go for stupid money as well. Prices seem to have shot up, or rather peoples imaginations have. 6 months ago their was 10x more choice for less money than what it seems their is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mini-z-awd Posted April 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2014 Every Rovan part I've had has been absolute junk, everyone I've known so far to have them hasn't liked them and has either sold it or upgraded it to the point it's no longer a Rovan, simple as that really, I'd never waste my money on Rovan, whether it be parts or a whole Baja having owned both, but to each his own, if someones having joy with one, then more power to him! He got a good deal, I've just personally had nothing but bad experience with Rovan, and won't be using them again. I didn't say I'D given KM a bad rap, but they DO have a bad rap, that isn't wrong, it's simple fact. I personally like KMs, so it's not me personally, but the fact is people judge them by their old stuff, which apparently was crap, I never actually owned one back then, so I can't comment, I'm going by friends who owned them years ago. Again, it isn't me personally saying they have a bad rap from back then, but they simply do... Fact, no two ways about that. Engine wise, mine has been spot on, it's hard 9 hard tanks of mostly flat out running and just over a tank of bashing, it's performed flawlessly to be completely honest and it's currently acting as my back up long block. Again, their old engines didn't have the best of reputation, mainly the terrible plating on the bore, but they now seem to have improved because my bore, piston and ring all look fine, original bearings and after 9 tanks theirs no play whatsoever. I'd gladly spend another 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill79 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 oh look heres comes the man who know`s everything about everything why dont you just shut the feu.ck and stop annoying people with all the bu.llshi.t thats comes out of your mouth and then you can build that baja 5b for your father or are you going to screw people out of money by asking stupid money for something aint worth it and it if does`nt sell you`ll just turn around and say aoh i think all build it up again then a few day`s later its back up for sale again Pmsl We must be so careful of setting ourselves up as people who set others straight. There is a fine line of encouraging & being a know it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini-z-awd Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Pmsl We must be so careful of setting ourselves up as people who set others straight. There is a fine line of encouraging & being a know it all. iam a don`t know it all like most people on here as were still all learning arent we but he thinks he know everything about baja`s and it just gets on my nerves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill79 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) iam a don`t know it all like most people on here as were still all learning arent we but he thinks he know everything about baja`s and it just gets on my nerves Edit.lol True mate haha Edited April 8, 2014 by bill79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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