autobutcher Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Its getting worse, has to be online, 24hr drm check on your software, Kinect always on and listening! the US alphabet agencies are going to love that, specialised trade in system that logs the software with the retailer and MS, MS takes its cut from 2nd hand software, approx. 10% margin for the retailer, you could be looking at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheDinosaur Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 All I am gonna say is that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryW Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 All I am gonna say is that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerbrus2 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 They announced its 600 yet then? Yup, amazon is the cheapest so far at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryW Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Yup, amazon is the cheapest so far at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JimmyTheDinosaur Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Rather spend 400 quid on this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OCHW-AMD-4-4GHZ-QUAD-CORE-1TB-GAMING-DESKTOP-PC-COMPUTER-8GB-1GB-ATI-HD-5450-/400325100995?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item5d353c45c3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryW Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Personally I'd rather 400 quid and know games will still work and be released for it in 7-8 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerbrus2 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Zavvi will put down prices stupidly lower than everyone else in order to get the most pre orders. So they get the units for a larger discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan_bench10 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Rather spend 400 quid on this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OCHW-AMD-4-4GHZ-QUAD-CORE-1TB-GAMING-DESKTOP-PC-COMPUTER-8GB-1GB-ATI-HD-5450-/400325100995?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item5d353c45c3 Ta mate was in market for a new machine being delivered friday :-D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryW Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Zavvi will put down prices stupidly lower than everyone else in order to get the most pre orders. So they get the units for a larger discount. Its all speculation though isn't it. 200? 300? 1000? No one knows sooooooooooo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheDinosaur Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Ta mate was in market for a new machine being delivered friday :-D Glad I could help mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teshi Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Last night was interesting. The more I look at it, the tables have turned. The PS4 looks more promising in terms of "game lending" and cost.Wonder if it is too late for Microsoft to scrap their system for being online constantly and secondly the resale of second hand games. I can see this being quite a deal breaker for some including me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Electro Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 As I work in the industry itself, how glad was I and all the other people to see Sony being refreshingly up front about pretty much everything last night Of course it's all objective but I do believe the worm has turned on this one, great stuff Sony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurcyP Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Consumer rights = sucessful console = ps4 bye xbox it was lovely but i personally dont want the FBI, GCHQ, MI6/MI5, CSI MIAMI, Brazzers.com watching me sleep at night because you must have internets and silly kinect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesChatz Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I don't understand why Microsoft don't just change their online sign-in requirements to be when you're playing from the hard drive only. If you have the disc, you should be free to play offline, and it would solve a large amount of the complaints about it. bye xbox it was lovely but i personally dont want the FBI, GCHQ, MI6/MI5, CSI MIAMI, Brazzers.com watching me sleep at night because you must have internets and silly kinect.You could always, you know, unplug the console [/tinfoilhat] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopystorm Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Consumer rights = sucessful console = ps4 bye xbox it was lovely but i personally dont want the FBI, GCHQ, MI6/MI5, CSI MIAMI, Brazzers.com watching me sleep at night because you must have internets and silly kinect. they would only look if you started using certain recognised key words in your messages mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teshi Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 As I work in the industry itself, how glad was I and all the other people to see Sony being refreshingly up front about pretty much everything last night Of course it's all objective but I do believe the worm has turned on this one, great stuff Sony I have worked for them in the past and yes it was refreshing to see them being upfront however my gut is still telling me they waiting on purpose to gauge the reaction of the public to the Xbox One.I still have a feeling there is another motive here but not sure what it could be but either way, Microsoft seem to have a loaded shotgun pointed at their own foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) They have dropped from 600 to Edited June 11, 2013 by Highlander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurcyP Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) they would only look if you started using certain recognised key words in your messages mate So looking i guess at miley cyrus will be out of the question then i laughed SO HARD at this Edited June 11, 2013 by PurcyP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Electro Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 They have dropped from 600 to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesChatz Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Because of the kinect isn't it? The spec of the actual consoles themselves are pretty similar (arguably the PS4 should be more because of the GDDR5) but the kinect has its own processor/camera etc. which bumps the price up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryW Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 So after all that zavvi were closest on price :-)Extra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggy72 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 they share the same Jaguar cores, but that's about it, As far as E3 goes, MS had a great press conference only let down by a overpriced underwhelming, always online, DRM nightmare train wreck of a games console. I noticed Jack Tretton's opening salvo was all about DRM and offline gaming(ps4), which I believe will be a big divider when it comes to choosing which one, according to members of beyond3d forum there is considerable more GPU compute with the PS4, especially more so that the Xbone latest rumours are suggesting a GPU down clock due to yield issues at their foundry. TBH I find both consoles a little underwhelming overall, but being in the MS camp since the Xbox's inception which included a US imported machine for the greatness that was Halo CE and a Xbox live beta player about 9/10 years ago, I find myself leaning heavily towards the PS4 as Sony to me seem to be saying the kind of things that I like as a gamer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurcyP Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Whens the next Wii coming out? Wii poop together or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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