Louise-Paisley Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 be interested to get your opinions on the Toro/ 1717 combo, I have just upgraded to the castle 1717 but on stock esc. I was looking at the Toro esc but found mixed reviews of it. What gearing are you using and what temps are you getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Cheers for the replies. I've not run it yet as I've no Lipos . I have a 6 cell charger so 2 x 3s batts would be good I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Ahh right.. Well as I said, my next battery purchase will be probably 5000 3s 40+c, The twin 6s in parallel gives a good run time, near 50 mins on stock motor in the park (not absolutely thrashing it of course), but the extra weight heats up the motor even the 1717 so it defeats the purpose when you need to limit run time to cool it down. does your Toro have fan(s) on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yes it does. What about 5800mah 45c Turnigy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yes it does. What about 5800mah 45c Turnigy? They should be fine depending on size.. I found the trays a bit of a pain, one of my 3s batteries will not lay flat in the tray and standing on its edge needs a lot of packing.. Luckily 2 of them just fits the width of the tray so I put two on one side but its not great balance wise. I also drilled out new holes in the chassis to shorten the tray, one set of holes was too long by miles and the other was about 3mm too bloody short grrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Typical. Yeh I think I will get a couple of those as they are a reasonable price. Cheers Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yes it does. What about 5800mah 45c Turnigy? Where you seen them at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Can I say another shop on here? Sorry they are 30c. The 5000mah are 45c Edited June 3, 2014 by pipcars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Ok, http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__32178__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5800mAh_3S1P_30C_UK_Warehouse_.html?strSearch=5800mah http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__26737__Turnigy_5000mAh_3S_40C_Lipo_Pack_UK_Warehouse_.html?strSearch=5000mah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Ok, http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__32178__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5800mAh_3S1P_30C_UK_Warehouse_.html?strSearch=5800mah http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__26737__Turnigy_5000mAh_3S_40C_Lipo_Pack_UK_Warehouse_.html?strSearch=5000mah The 5000 will give you a higher discharge of 200A constant and 250A peak for 10 secs. They are both softpack so not sure if they would be allowed in a race - I only bash but I think organised races may require hardcase. Size wise they will not lay flat in the tray nor will you get two in one tray so you will need to do some fiddling about with packing or mod the trays to get them secured, not a massive task but be aware. I did contemplate removing one side of the tray and rely on the velcro strap to secure batteries, at the moment though with my batteries I get away with two in one tray instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Thankyou for your help, all this electric stuff is alien to me being an old Nitro boy, lol Could you recommend a make/size that will fit? Cheers Edited June 3, 2014 by pipcars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 well its really a personal choice.. The ones you selected will be fine electrically its just they won't fit without fiddling with the battery trays or packing them.. The ones I have which fit 2 in one tray are Zippy 3s 4000ma 40c soft packs.. They are OK but I would go 5000 40c or greater if I were buying now - they were originally bought for the quadcopter not the XB. If you go with the turnigy 5000 or 5800 packs then you would need to get some fairly stiff foam to pack the space at the side of the battery or mod the tray to let them lay flat. The length is not a problem, the trays should accommodate pretty much any length you are likely to encounter, the tray width is 48mm.. That means the battery needs to be 48mm or less wide to lay flat in the tray or 24mm or less thick to put two packs in one tray.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) if you want to select a pack that will lay flat go to www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/lithium_polymer_battery_configuration.asp and set Capacity 4000+, Discharge 35c, height( B ) to 0 to 48mm and select 3s Job done If you want to go 2 packs in one side then set the width( C ) to 0 to 24mm instead of height Edited June 3, 2014 by Louise-Paisley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Thankyou Louise you are a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-11-1V-5500mAh-3S-35C-Lipo-RC-Battery-for-Helicopter-Airplane-Hobby-Car-Boat-/231201870205?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item35d4b4917d Hi it's me again, would these give a good run time. May a bit of a squeeze at 50mm? Cheers Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 never heard of that brand, check out lipos on hobbyking and giantshark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I have two of that brand, never used them myself but they came with a second hand vader.. However, mine are smaller capacity and size and JUST fit in the trays flat - 50mm will not fit in flat and 30mm thick you won't get two in one tray. the tray is 48mm wide, and you will not get a 49mm battery in it without modding it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I could pack them out as you said, may be worth a go at 40 a pair???? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 No idea, I have not even tried charging the ones here, not sure on capacity but I suspect only about 3000 or 3500 (sticker peeled off) It is a case of pay money and try really, or go with a known battery.. If you try them and they are ok then the rest of us will know when you report back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipcars Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Guinea pig lol???? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise-Paisley Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 No, no, no, contributing to the community knowledge base.. Or guinea pig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Some unknown brands have been found to supply lower than advertised C and discharge ratings but it if you get them let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 What's the worst that could happen? Personally, I'd avoid 'em like a one eyed woman with a pint in her hand.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Get a fire extinguisher too while you're at it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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