New Arrma RC releases

Do we know if this is Horizon forcing them to switch from 1/8 leccy bits to 1/10? Has the Senton 6S been binned off for a Slash style version? If so, has the drive-train been downgraded too?

Looking at the pics, it looks completely different? Will we have both variants or just this watered down version? 

Is this the same as the brushed version...or have they upgraded it anyplace?

 

I always wonder about plastic driveshafts and high voltage brushless. I have seen how the Stampede wears them, and would have thought something better was in order

2 hours ago, Nitroholic said:

Is this the same as the brushed version...or have they upgraded it anyplace?

 

I always wonder about plastic driveshafts and high voltage brushless. I have seen how the Stampede wears them, and would have thought something better was in order

 

Yup, my Slash 4x4 used to eat through CVDs. Plastic non-fantastic. 

Im guessing they’ll also add Spektrum radios too and the price will be alot closer to the Slash/Stampede 4x4?

 

 

Is this the brushed version for a bargain price?

 

https://tamico.de/navi.php?a=203971&lang=eng

 

Guessing theres more differences than the esc/motor?

A quick look on the Arrma site and they're listing both the 6S and 3S versions. I guess they could still be dropping the 6S version as soon as stocks clear? I hope that's not the case, but why have two versions of one car? That's only going to add to production costs? Having a brushed and brushless version available is understandable, but two brushless versions plus the brushed is unusual, no?

Arrma always had 3 versions of several of their models: The Mega (brushed), the BLS and the BLX (both brushless).

 

That Granite chassis looks absolutely fantastic, in my opinion! The Pro-Line Pro-MT 4X4 is the ultimate 1/10 MT, but this does looks like THE better-value alternative. None of the other 1/10 MTs I've seen, or owned, come close to looking as heavy-duty.

Never knew that, cheers for the heads-up. 

So there is potential a 6s version of the brushed version? There must be upgrades between the chassis’ but the fact the brushed version isnt a million miles off a 6s short course truck is a big plus?

 

Or am I missing something? Surely at €159 the brushed version is bargain of the century? Or is the 6s a completely new chassis?

 

edit: the 6S and the Mega are COMPLETELY different lol

Edited July 30, 2018 by Guns

The senton 6s sounds like what most slash owners want to achieve so if arrma just releases it already 6s ready it will blow the slash away. MT conversion it would be an animal trx will regret banning uk exports. 

15 hours ago, RCbutcher said:

The senton 6s sounds like what most slash owners want to achieve so if arrma just releases it already 6s ready it will blow the slash away. MT conversion it would be an animal trx will regret banning uk exports. 

It all sounds extremely good. I'll just believe it when I see it in a UK shop with a decent support network. I honestly thought this would be all sorted now.

 

Only thing Im not really getting. The Senton 6S 'only' has a top speed of 60? Traxxas' VXL's are getting that with 1/10th 3S set ups?

Are people confusing the two Sentons here?  ARRMA do a 1/10 - in mega (brushed, red or blue) and BLX brushless (puke colour)

 

 

 

And a 1/8 brushless BLX only

 

 

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, Guns said:

It all sounds extremely good. I'll just believe it when I see it in a UK shop with a decent support network. I honestly thought this would be all sorted now.

 

Only thing Im not really getting. The Senton 6S 'only' has a top speed of 60? Traxxas' VXL's are getting that with 1/10th 3S set ups?

 

Moments before catching fire.  All jokes aside the VXL elecs are well known for being massively overpriced for performance.

 

The Senton 6S is a true 1/8 platform, not comparable with a 1/10 slash.  Fwiw the ARRMA Senton 4x4 (1:10, 3S) is quoted at 50mph.

 

 

 

160 euros (or £ as near as matters now) is pretty tasty for the brushed senton 4x4 IF the differences to the blx brushless version is purely cosmetic and the electrics.  Not unknown for manufacturers to cheap out on the brushed versions - and not just traxxas.

 

Be interesting to see how all those plastic driveshafts / centre shaft etc manage under regular 3S power.  If it holds up, then hats off to Arrma for producing a genuine Slash 4x4 alternative for a fraction of the price.

34 minutes ago, bertberr said:

Be interesting to see how all those plastic driveshafts / centre shaft etc manage under regular 3S power.  If it holds up, then hats off to Arrma for producing a genuine Slash 4x4 alternative for a fraction of the price.

The brushless one is going to be around £349 in the UK id imagine, so a decent saving over a Slash 4x4 but not a fraction?

1 hour ago, capri-boy said:

Are people confusing the two Sentons here?  ARRMA do a 1/10 - in mega (brushed, red or blue) and BLX brushless (puke colour)

 

 

 

And a 1/8 brushless BLX only

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moments before catching fire.  All jokes aside the VXL elecs are well known for being massively overpriced for performance.

 

The Senton 6S is a true 1/8 platform, not comparable with a 1/10 slash.  Fwiw the ARRMA Senton 4x4 (1:10, 3S) is quoted at 50mph.

 

 

 

160 euros (or £ as near as matters now) is pretty tasty for the brushed senton 4x4 IF the differences to the blx brushless version is purely cosmetic and the electrics.  Not unknown for manufacturers to cheap out on the brushed versions - and not just traxxas.

 

 

Initially yes I was confusing the two yes, thought it was two good to be true and obviously it is. The 6s does look amazing and appears great value. A definite Slash 4x4 Slayer! Provided stock sorts out. However I think its silly having the Senton and Senton Mega being two completely different chassis, just all it something completely new.

 

My initial idea was to buy the 160 euro brushed version, sell the ESC/Motor/Servo/Battery/Chagrer/TX and use my Futaba Radio and buy a brushless system.  Cant seem to see what the main differences between the Brushed and Brushless Mega, I think I can see an alloy motor plate on the brushless version at least. I cant seem to see much on google, and Im not into the idea enough to download and scrutinise exploded views.

My concern is still parts availability, especially if I was required to upgrade the brushed Mega to run Brushless power.

21 minutes ago, Guns said:

The brushless one is going to be around £349 in the UK id imagine, so a decent saving over a Slash 4x4 but not a fraction?

 

I'm aware of that, my point was if the brushed is the same as the brushless from a transmission/drivetrain POV, as implied / suspected in the posts above, then the brushed @ 160 with a basic HW quicrun 120a esc and cheapo can would be, on paper at least, not a million miles away from a std Slash 4x4 for what, 220 quid?  However, until we know more about tranny internals etc, its all just pie in the sky.

20 minutes ago, bertberr said:

 

I'm aware of that, my point was if the brushed is the same as the brushless from a transmission/drivetrain POV, as implied / suspected in the posts above, then the brushed @ 160 with a basic HW quicrun 120a esc and cheapo can would be, on paper at least, not a million miles away from a std Slash 4x4 for what, 220 quid?  However, until we know more about tranny internals etc, its all just pie in the sky.

This is my plan, I'm confident that even if there are changes, they would be minor and in expensive.... but its f you can get the parts.

 

ITs looking at 173 Euro delivered from Tamico so £155. Its £214 here. Say you sold the stock ESC/Motor combo for £25 and the battery and charger for £10-15 you'd be around £120 for the roller with a radio. Thats a bargain! 

There appears to be a lot of changes between the on in the OP and 2018 Brushed version. Its not worth doing what I intended

 

https://www.arrmaforum.com/threads/new-granite-senton.7460/

Edited July 31, 2018 by Guns

Quick look suggests more differences.  Slipper assembly is different / gear pitch for spur - BL has 32dp gear, brushed 48dp / tie rods on the mega / turnbuckles on the BL.  Both have composite centre shafts, but different parts presumably to account for the slipper.  Alu motor mount for the BL, composite for brushed.  No wheelie bar on brushed.  Diffs are the same at least, with splined output shafts.

 

CBA to look more, it may be the composite bargain basement brushed one WILL handle BL power, or that only some of the BL versions parts are necessary - only time will tell.

 

 

Not such the bargain.

I think a BL converted one from Tamico, run on 2S, maybe around 35-4000kv, would make a fair amount of sense, particularly for a newbie / younger driver.  3S nutter machine, well the jury is still out on that one.  And, I'm not a big fan of 'module' electrics either, even though these are stand alone items, just doesn't look to be as much space around components as there would be if weren't equipped with those modules.  First proper reviews will enlighten further no doubt.

Horizon might be waiting to see what Brexit deal, if any, is negotiated? Hence the slow arrival of stock?

I'm not sure Brexit will have a massive impact on whether or not toy cars made in the far east are sold (successfully or otherwise) in the UK, but hey, you may be right... what do I know ?

Probably more than I know!

16 hours ago, Tug said:

Horizon might be waiting to see what Brexit deal, if any, is negotiated? Hence the slow arrival of stock?

I could be completely wrong here, but I Would have thought that they would have prioritised the UK market in order to get the majority of stock in and selling before it POTENTIALLY becomes difficult and expensive?