johninderby Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Here you go. http://ftx-rc.com/rc-hop-ups/ftx-outlaw-aluminium-motor-mount-for-23t-pinion?limit=25 http://ftx-rc.com/ftx-outlaw-aluminium-rear-axle-adaptors-2pc?search=Outlaw rear axle If they have them in stock MS can't be far behind. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 Yeah won't be too long now. By the time xmas is out the way then hopefully they'll be here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertberr Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Do you think those bits absolutely necessary (for hard bashing) or just nice to have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 The ali motor mount will reduce any degree of flex between the pinion and spur gears. I'd prefer fitting them (axle parts) as it prevents any slop which develops in the steering and rear axles, caused by general hard cornering and impact from bumps etc.. I've fitted ali hubs/knuckles/arms to my Hooligan and Viper, there's no play at all now. Very precise steering. And yes, they're nice to have I guess too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) Quick update: seen as I'm waiting for the ali motor mount to arrive, for the time being I want to get some respectable speed out of this and get the stock brushed motor actually working with some effort, so I've fitted a cheap n cheerful Chinese esc which can handle a 3S Lipo. Used them on 3S before and they work no probs. Knew it would come in handy one day! Braving the elements outside with this storm it's had a quick trial for a minute - and it's not bad to be fair. Going to fit the GPS to it and see what speed it returns. Also fitted the Turnigy 17kg metal geared servo, works with ease. Edited December 23, 2016 by t2boats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) Used that servo on a few things including the Outback as well as now the Outlaw. Do have a spare 30kg servo handy but don't think it'll be needed. Weather is actually looking pretty decent for tomorrow. Bright sunny day according to the weatherman John.. Edit weatherman just changed his mind. Now just sunny afternoon followed by heavy rain. Edited December 23, 2016 by johninderby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 It's been naff over here in west wales, thankfully that storm has blown through and the rain stopped. Going to try and get out with the Outlaw tomoz for a speed test run! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Really looking forward to seeing this in action, lovely looking rock racer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Bigjimknickers said: Really looking forward to seeing this in action, lovely looking rock racer! I'd best my little tripod out for the phone n make a video. Charged the gps ready over night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Will that 15 turn 550 can handle 3s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 Hi chaps, Happy Xmas to you all! I've ran the Outlaw yesterday on 3S doing a speed test with the GPS, made a short vid so will post it up when I've put it together. For the stock motor and pinion running 3S, it returned a decent lick of speed.. ran it for approx 15mins with no problems, and each run it was becoming slightly faster as the motor was breaking in. will upload the vid link later when I get chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 Finally got around to uploading a video to YouTube of the Outlaw.. Fitted the aluminium FTX hubs/knuckles/steering arms straight away, but while I'm waiting for the ali 23tooth motor mount to arrive I thought it'd be rude not to give the rock racer's brushed motor a blast. So to give it a little bit of serious shoving I replaced the esc with another brushed esc which has a voltage limit of 16v - 3S was being charged while fitting that esc.. Also added the Turnigy waterproof 17kg metal geared servo too. Enjoy the video! I had to ease off with the intitial acceleration due to the chassis twist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Looks alright on 3s. Speeds not too bad for a brushed rock racer. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 I'm certain it'll become quicker the more use that motor has. It's got some serious poke off the line, have to feather the throttle on take off. Was pleasantly surprised anyway by its speed on that pinion, the 23 tooth should return near 40mph, perhaps reach it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOFX Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Goes well . Whats it like where it belongs? ( up & down & slanty stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 5 hours ago, NOFX said: Goes well . Whats it like where it belongs? ( up & down & slanty stuff) Don't know yet, not had chance to get out amongst the more demanding terrain. Judging by how supple the suspension is I think it'll cope just fine. So far I'm liking every aspect of the Outlaw other than one thing: the idea of having a dedicated motor mount to suit only one size pinion though, on the other hand when I fit the brushless motor with the ali 23t motor mount I'll no doubt never change the pinion! Still, the option has been taken away (or severely limited in that respect to just two pinions) by FTX for rc users who would wish to change pinions to suit batteries and kv etc.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Having a slight issue with the drag brake from the brushed ESC I've temporarily fitted to the Outlaw until my brushless mount arrives. At one point on its first run I let go of the throttle to see it suddenly do forward roles at its top speed on 3S it's drag brake when the trigger goes to neutral is massive, and not wanted! Made a vid earlier of the difference between 2 and 3S Lipo on the Outlaw - but with sadly no real difference between the performance of the drag brake, it's still harsh on 2S. Surely there's a program card out there which can be used to change the parameters.. Sorry about the poor light, it was still all dark n gloomy where I live at that time of the morning (the youngest had me up early, I think her voice can be heard in the background in the video) Nice ballooning of the tyres though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just had a thought, I think I'll adjust the throttle trim ever so slightly to ahead, so when the trigger is released it's still sending a forward signal to the receiver. So hopefully, in theory, it won't engage the drag brake to that severe level.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 A bit of adjustment might help. Are you using the stock radio? I changed the RX and added the model to my favourite radio. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Yeah using the standard stuff, it's alright and does the job. Shame it takes 8x AA's though Will try the adjustment later on and let ya know! I'll move the trim just so the wheels start to move forwards and very slightly take it back, it'll be quite finite but it should work hopefully.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 It's actually a pefectly usable radio but having to,use 8AA batteries is irritating. Still I'm putting it to good use in an RC I'm putting up for sale. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 That's the way! Perhaps I'll use my other tx in future, for the time being though it can stay where it is. Quick update - I tried the adjustment....and it's still aggressive but not quite as bad. When using it until the ali mount arrives (not even in stock yet) I'll have to feather the throttle back to help it reduce speed at a more acceptable rate. I couldn't take it any further forwards as the wheels began to twitch, so it's set to just that point before. One other thing - sounds like the top end revs have increased though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Already had a new unused Etronix radio so didn't need another one. Noticed the Outlaw has been getting faster everytime I run it. Getting a bit fed up of waiting for the 600BB motor to arrive. Has been sitting in the Hermes German hub for 10 days now. They must have a long Xmas break. And I thought Hermes was slow in the UK. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Yeah it'll get faster too as it breaks itself in with use.. there's a clear difference in mine now to when I first used it! Will have to try another speed test soon next time I'm home from work. I think these are a decent motor with some oomph up its backside, impressed with how well it's performed anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t2boats Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Hope it arrives pronto for ya John, I hate waiting for parts when I know they're just sat in a distribution depot somewhere - and going nowhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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