Nitroholic Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Manual for all the Savage models can be downloaded from HPI http://www.hpiracing.com/en/instructions or from the link below. They are great that way! http://www.competitionx.com/hpi-racing-manuals/ I would suggest downloading the 25, SS and X manuals, as it will help you to work out which bits are which, check which part numbers are what, and generally come in really handy if you look at the pages and your truck doesn't look like it should. Then you can use part numbers to search on E-Bay if you need spares. Once you know the basic layout of a Savage, they are dead easy to work on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Thanks guys Right went out with the truck and im disappointed Primed put glow starter on pull cord running left it idling for a few mins pull trottle bogged out done again again aging went through half of the half He tuned it in front of me and was running brill why it not now ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin28 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You probably just need to get it warmed up properly, idling isn't the best way as it just loads up the crankcase with oil and you get bogging like you experienced. Get it started and gently blip the throttle with the wheels off the ground for a few seconds then run it around for a few minutes, being gentle and not using full throttle until its warmed up. Remember the engines are tuned when up to operating temperature, the tune is all wrong when cold, but that's just the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'll try again sat I rang them they said same thing and that if it's not right on sat then I need to take it back to get looked at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Could it be that I'm running 20% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroholic Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 If they tuned it on 25% ... then 20% won't help, but as said....idling a nitro motor for any length of time just clogs it up and makes it run badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 They tuned it at 20 I use the same fuel they left in it So it was my fualt for leaving it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil.b Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 As has been said. Once it starts just drive it. Idling isn't good for nitro engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'll see what happens sat it prob did help been in on a hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) Still no joy it bogs right out after 1 min or a little trottle It seems okish if the glow starter is in there I can get a higher rev (trying to clean the carb of crap It will idle but won't rev much and it not even to cold Edited November 15, 2014 by pockets snakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCbutcher Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 How was the weather when they tuned it to how it is now its foggy around me so could mess with it. Or a new glow plug mayb. Its normal common stuff tho lol one min they run excellent the next play up its usually just variables tho. Don't give up I tried brushless after getting tired with nitro but i still had problems the difference was with brushless they meant spending alot to fix. Nitro fixs are usually bench time or other service items. seals , bearings ect. To rip up the feild tho you'll need a petrol lol they do damage to parks but its best not too or no rc signs will be around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil.b Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The engine is probably loaded with fuel. Disconnect the fuel line from the carb, take the glow plug out , turn the car upside down and crank the engine over till it stops spitting fuel from the glow plug hole. Re-fit the fuel line, replace the plug and start the engine. DON'T IDLE IT, just drive it. See if that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Well I found an adjustable panel on my controls today and I notice the car idles better when power is off So what I'm go na try and see of the car will run on the throttle on the car if it will then ill have to fiddle with my tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Everything is 10 I think he use his tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroholic Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Few things from the vid you posted in another thread..... ( would be more useful if you posted it here with the ongoing discussion ) 1) If it runs better with the glow starter left on for a few minutes...Leave it on for a few minutes. It won't do any harm, and will allow your motor to get some warmth. Soon as it starts, you are taking it off and I reckon the motor needs a bit of help. If the glow plug has got fouled, which can happen with excess fuel, then that won't help low speed running. 2) On the third attempt, when it rolled off at a crawl....give it some throttle and get the revs up. Gently....not ramming it wide open...but not crawling along. If it won';t rev...then you do have a tuning/plug issue for sure. 3) When the shop tuned the car...what was the weather like? When the conditions change, the tuning will need adjusting. Nitro engine tunes are never fixed and always need to be fiddled with when conditions change 4) Lastly...your shocks have no preload adjusters on them. REALLY needs some preload. The truck is just not rising back to normal height when you pushed it down. Should be a pair of clip on preload adjusters on each shock. p.s. DO NOT run the car with the transmitter power off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Few things from the vid you posted in another thread..... ( would be more useful if you posted it here with the ongoing discussion ) 1) If it runs better with the glow starter left on for a few minutes...Leave it on for a few minutes. It won't do any harm, and will allow your motor to get some warmth. Soon as it starts, you are taking it off and I reckon the motor needs a bit of help. If the glow plug has got fouled, which can happen with excess fuel, then that won't help low speed running. 2) On the third attempt, when it rolled off at a crawl....give it some throttle and get the revs up. Gently....not ramming it wide open...but not crawling along. If it won';t rev...then you do have a tuning/plug issue for sure. 3) When the shop tuned the car...what was the weather like? When the conditions change, the tuning will need adjusting. Nitro engine tunes are never fixed and always need to be fiddled with when conditions change 4) Lastly...your shocks have no preload adjusters on them. REALLY needs some preload. The truck is just not rising back to normal height when you pushed it down. Should be a pair of clip on preload adjusters on each shock. p.s. DO NOT run the car with the transmitter power off. Sorry taptalk won't allow me to post is a thread I've already started Also I drain all fuel out fully took the pipe off the carb and ran it till it stoped put fresh stuff in and same thing happend again He tuned it in the shop witch I dunno if right he started ran it up warm then loads of throttle adjusted as and when I've never tuned a nitro as of yet I'm yet to tune my ts4n witch is Spitting tons of fuel out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Oh sorry I forgot to mention I've only had 4 cars in my life and never had to tune only repair so sorry if I seem dumb Also I thought I was missing summit I just thought needed new shock so there called preload clips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedods Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Id direct you here: http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/3368-how-to-tune-a-nitro-engine/ You can use google to find factory settings just search 'hpi 4.6 factory settings' or somthing No time like the present to learn some tuning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 I know lol I feel like a twit lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedods Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Everyone starts somwhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Lol ill see how thing are in the morning ill see what the shop says and if it still the same when I get home next weekend with me my learning curve on the tuning side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) Look at this just look why won't you run right grrrrr Edited November 15, 2014 by pockets snakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) Just out if interest why would the car run better with tx and rx off ?? Edited November 15, 2014 by pockets snakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroholic Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It won't ...... with the radio off, you have no control over the throttle. It will just sit where the servo was last. If you actually had the servo powered up, the failsafe should kick in...close the throttle and put on the brakes. Indicates you are either winding trim on the servo, or have the throttle servo badly set up so it's holding the throttle open, rather than the throttle sitting in the fully closed position. It's also dangerous....as should the car rev up and the clutch engage, you have no way of stopping it. DO NOT DO IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets snakes Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Oh no I'm just saying when everything was off i used the trottle link when was off the ground and was running good but once i turned all back off it bog out again that's why i took a pic of the hidden panel with everything at 10 from 1 witch I didn't know Well I found an adjustable panel on my controls today and I notice the car idles better when power is off So what I'm go na try and see of the car will run on the throttle on the car if it will then ill have to fiddle with my tx Witch is what I said here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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