Thomas rc Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hey guys. Well my mt4g3 is broke yet again which means out of a handful of light runs it isn't living upto it durability. But, I'm still willing to give it a chance before I change it for a savage. I'm also considering getting a castle 2200 kv motor but , will there be much difference over the standard ripper 2000kv? Any other suggestions on motors are welcome Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 If your breaking it with the stock ripper then sticking in a more powerful motor will just break it more so I'd figure why it's breaking and fix that first !!. If it's eating diffs or snapping cvd's it will just get worse with more power !! I tried the Sirius 2200 kv which was a simaliar motor to the castle and I think it just ran too hot and lacked in any real power performance to justify the price tag of the motor .. Then I tried a leopard 4082 2000 kv tons of torque and more than enough power but it keeped blowing wheel hexes so I bowed back to the stock motor next on my list will be something in around 1600 kv to 1800 kv but yet to make my mind up on what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'm trying trial and error to get it more durable. It just seems a lot of problems although so it's now in bits and I'm going over everything. The savage flux seems to handle the power no probs so the mt4 should or else I sell it and get a savage. I'm currently drilling the hexes to pin them to the wheel to stop them stripping and also aliminium tape round the hexes so they fit more snug in the rim. I run 6s all the time so I'll have a few things break but like I said as they break I'll try upgrading things. The joys of rc haha Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Running anything at it's max will break a lot more even a savage so I'm not surprised your breaking it so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 That's what it's for in my book. Like i say I'll get it bulletproof one way or another it's just good fun doing double backflips and such like that's what I like out of rc. Is that motor you mentioned 4082 leopard it looks the same as the ripper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Yep the 4082 do a little research on it, it's a beast of a motor ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Looks a beast aswell just googled it I'm guessing you would recommend it over the castle 2200. I hope this mod I'm doing by drilling the hex and rim to pin them will stop the hex stripping problem. I suppose im giving the truck a bit of a bad rep. Once I get these niggles done in sure I'll be able to enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 That mod might work ok on a 1/10 th scale or smaller but the amount of force your running on I'm not so sure it will hold up to be honest ? Depends why there stripping thou I guess is it power or loose wheel nuts ? If it's power and grip then it will just get worse the more you add. If it's loose nuts then add some thread lock and leave it overnight to cure There's loads of lovers and haters of any rc some folks just seem to have better luck than others on trucks and some folks just expect more than others so don't worry if you think it's crap just say it you bought it so you can say whatever you want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'll have a go and post my results with it. I'll have to wait for my new wheels in the post first haha. I do like it when I get the niggles out the way it will be an awesome truck I have no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryTXT1 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 If it says 6s on the box then it should be able to handle it without breaking... I don't not use 6th gear in my car incase it breaks, they should just make them as good as they imply they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 That is exactly right I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 im sure the newer mt4g3 says 4s in the manual. also back flips might look good but if the car could talk if would tell a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 The esc and motor can handle 6s but your right it says 4s which is strange lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 i think they were fed up with people doing crazy things on 6s snapping something than trying to blame TT also it is down to how you drive the car. take a speed run for instance. A should you hit full throttle then hit top speed then apply full brake. or B slowly apply throttle then hit top speed then slowly apply the brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Yea I think that's right because it can handle 6s. It just needs a few niggles sorting to make it more durable. For example my rear diff went on my second run with it and it wasn't driving hard and that is unacceptable. I've since rebuilt the diffs and put silicone diff oil in it. I would advise to do this straight away now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Not sure you can say its unacceptable when in the manual it states a max of 4s and your running above that on 6s !!.. If you had of done some research before buying then you would have read about its weak diffs and the need for extra shimming along with some other well known points of weakness like loose wheel nuts and the likes .. No a truck shouldn't break out the gate, but yes you should pay attention to the manufacturer's guidelines set out in the manual.. If you want to ignore them then if it goes wrong who is really at fault ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 I done research. Plenty people run 6s on the mt4 to heme fair 4s is rubbish. The diff gears on most rc manufacturers are very similar it's not rocket science. Why do thunder tiger put 6s capable electronics on it then. Look at it like this. People who convert hyper 7s to brushless and run 6s. Does it say in the manual not to ? No it doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 4s drivetrain with 6s capable electronics as a failsafe its that simple. comparisons don't work in rc, for example I can map my car to make more power but the manufacturer sends it out stating the power as its then reliable etc your doing this buy loading the car up with more power, you have to except breakages until you address it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'll make it bulletproof no doubt about it. And address it is exactly what I'm doing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Stick at it then mate it'll be awesome when complete. I'm running a mm2 2200kv combo in an S50 and it can handle the power no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yea definetly. It's good fun tinkering anyway lol I'll improve it for sure. The s50 looks well smart I think. Bet it goes well with that combo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yea nice one. Ive only had it upto 5s but it flys with it still having the 2 speed box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas rc Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yea I bet lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryTXT1 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Car makers map cars to allow for a variety of altitudes and climates as appossed to max power the engine can sustain, hence why remaps (sensible ones) can improve fuel consumption Edited September 16, 2014 by BryTXT1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydoddy69 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I done research. Plenty people run 6s on the mt4 to heme fair 4s is rubbish. The diff gears on most rc manufacturers are very similar it's not rocket science. Why do thunder tiger put 6s capable electronics on it then. Look at it like this. People who convert hyper 7s to brushless and run 6s. Does it say in the manual not to ? No it doesn't So if you where to make a warranty claim and tell Thunder Tiger I was running 6s and this or that broke what do you think there say ? The argument is not weather there electrics are capable that's easy as they are, it's more a case is the running gear or drivetrain capable and it's clear thunder tiger think not or maybe not all the time so you need to except the consciences if you do hence the change in the manual to state 4s running max ? Just because say joe up the road does it or I do it that doesn't make it right just means I got away with it this time but maybe next I won't ! .. Like I say thou it's your truck bash it moan about it as you feel fit to do so.. Personally I think if I was you I'd sell it on move on as this is just not going to give what you want without running at max and breaking a lot.. Perhaps in your case your be better of with a savage or a hyper 7 running 6s as they don't break !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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