Hawkpalmer Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The dude in the video said the wheels/tyres and beadlocks fit so that's something pmsl What's the "xl" all about in the title? It's not bigger then a 5ive is it? He also said they've got approx 10 hopup parts that's going to be available looool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collective itch Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 very little, if anything, going on the images posted thus far. Perhaps Horizon realised that building a bomb proof truck actually cost them money in spares sales; bring out a new and weaker truck, money through the company tills again really? surely most of the drivetrain is the same? or is all different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 thinner bones/shafts all round, but UJ's from the diff outputs for the centre drive line, instead of cups. Spur also looks thinner in the pics.... Need to get mi hands on one, and poke it with a stick for a while....then destroy it with 10hp + of 10s lunacy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jony nitro Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It needs to be lighter aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chewbacca Posted November 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2013 Where is the logic in that, Chewie?? Crazy man....you know it makes sense to invest a bag of sand in a largescale, stop deluding yourself You've got my address Jon, get the nice boys at MS to gift wrap it and send it my way. Happy Christmas to Me 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The dude in the video said the wheels/tyres and beadlocks fit so that's something pmsl What's the "xl" all about in the title? It's not bigger then a 5ive is it? He also said they've got approx 10 hopup parts that's going to be available looool In fairness though hop-ups are choice. To me, things like a new engine, pipe etc... Aren't really hop-ups as such, whilst yes they're better if you go for something improved, it's something that can be done to anything. If you have something that's good at of the box, hop-ups aren't necessary and are only for those who like something to be shiney, rather than actually work properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collective itch Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 hhmmm, a 5ive roller then adding the buggy wheels and tires, and cage/panels looks more appealing to me then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 maybe so.... A review can only go so far, as can pics on a website....only way to know if summat is actually any good is to buy and bash the hell out of it A lighter platform would be ideal for a CC bl set up....we all know where this is going, don't we..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jony nitro Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 maybe so.... A review can only go so far, as can pics on a website....only way to know if summat is actually any good is to buy and bash the hell out of it A lighter platform would be ideal for a CC bl set up....we all know where this is going, don't we..... Would be a very nice addition to your amazing fleet Jon. This thing is apparently about 8-9lbs lighter than the 5ive they said too. On the whole, what sot of weight difference is their between a 5th scale motor/ESC/LiPo compared to an engine, fuel tank and throttle servo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharrel Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) I think it's pretty obvious that it is lighter since they decided to include a smaller engine. Edited November 21, 2013 by Pharrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Not actually weighed the two different power systems....the esc and can weigh nowt, it's the packs that are lardy... 8/9lbs is a lot of weight gone....8s may just be enough to shift it decently... I am hovering over the pre-order button...thankfully fish and chips are here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Not actually weighed the two different power systems....the esc and can weigh nowt, it's the packs that are lardy... 8/9lbs is a lot of weight gone....8s may just be enough to shift it decently... I am hovering over the pre-order button...thankfully fish and chips are here! Yeah even judging by the smaller combos and LiPos I've owned, one LiPo easily outweighs a motor and esc. I was just thinking your overall saving on a BL conversion would be pretty big I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jony nitro Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Always liked something fat and heavy in your hand. Ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharrel Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 An 8400mAh 3S battery weighs 520g. Not sure how heavy 4s, 6s batteries are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) well....I have a spare xl2, which may/may not be going in the S5 with a 1717......and can pull a system from one of the badgers for testing, same with the MGM and the 2028.....from a cost perspective, the castle set up (imported from the US) is the better option All comes down to weight tho....pointless adding back the 9lbs Losi have removed....my 8.0 5s nanotechs weigh nigh on 1kg each! Always liked something fat and heavy in your hand. Ha You know it buddy...I do have that ridiculous neu can as well Edited November 21, 2013 by Noj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 well....I have a spare xl2, which may/may not be going in the S5 with a 1717......and can pull a system from one of the badgers for testing, same with the MGM and the 2028.....from a cost perspective, the castle set up (imported from the US) is the better option All comes down to weight tho....pointless adding back the 9lbs Losi have removed....my 8.0 5s nanotechs weigh nigh on 1kg each! You know it buddy...I do have that ridiculous neu can as well Fit the Neu! That ain't no paperweight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 low kv tho....best to stick to what we know works.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jony nitro Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 low kv tho....best to stick to what we know works.... Very low indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 425kv or thereabouts I was going to say,' what on earth possessed you, Jony?' , but that could be deemed a touch hypocritical..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 low kv tho....best to stick to what we know works.... Low kv + high voltage = lower amp draw. Getting waaaaaaay off topic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jony nitro Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 425kv or thereabouts I was going to say,' what on earth possessed you, Jony?' , but that could be deemed a touch hypocritical..... Haha jumped in with two feet and two bag and "No Clue" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Low kv + high voltage = lower amp draw. Getting waaaaaaay off topic! damn right Apologies people. back to the real issue for all you gassers...is it worth it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collective itch Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 damn right Apologies people. back to the real issue for all you gassers...is it worth it?? really dont know. as mentioned, until someone buys one, and beats the snot out of it, im on the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 well....I have a spare xl2, which may/may not be going in the S5 with a 1717......and can pull a system from one of the badgers for testing, same with the MGM and the 2028.....from a cost perspective, the castle set up (imported from the US) is the better option All comes down to weight tho....pointless adding back the 9lbs Losi have removed....my 8.0 5s nanotechs weigh nigh on 1kg each! You know it buddy...I do have that ridiculous neu can as well You'll never add that weight back, once the engine, fuel tank and throttle servo is out I bet the total saving is closer to 15lb, so you adding say 7-8 back isn't making it the same as a 5ive, it's still the original weight. Although I imagine it'd still be a bit less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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