Feedtheinferno Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 After a slight panic that the bearings weren't sitting right in the hub: The front bearing when sitting in the hub isn't flush due the angle of the hub, one edge sits slightly higher than flush and due to mine being 4 degrees it's at it proudest. After that was cleared up, a more pressing problem has presented it. It appears that the front bearings (new or old) don't stay in the hub, they aren't too small as the rear bearings stick nicely, they are sitting perfectly and yet just fall out. Has anyone had a similar problem? Or does anyone know if this will matter once the whole hub is together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Just to update. This morning I have also sent a message to Hostile to see if they recognise the problem, but hopefully still one of you can help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroholic Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I have had this with clone hubs, but I use a thin smear of red threadlock around the bearing housing to stick it in place. If the bearing can spin in the housing it will potentially oval it out leading to wear. Wouldn't expect Hostile hubs to be loose from new. Mine were lovely and tight....and were used when I got them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 I have had this with clone hubs, but I use a thin smear of red threadlock around the bearing housing to stick it in place. If the bearing can spin in the housing it will potentially oval it out leading to wear. Wouldn't expect Hostile hubs to be loose from new. Mine were lovely and tight....and were used when I got them. Well they are second hand and came with knackered bearings in them, the knackered ones were tight when getting them out and they are exactly the same size as the ones I am trying to get in. These are definitely genuine hostiles too. So essentially the bearing recess could be worn? I was thinking of thread-locking them lightly, the actual alignment when the fronts are in is perfect is just they fall out :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Odd problem, i had a job getting bearings in brand new ones. Are they the standard bearing or the over sized version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Odd problem, i had a job getting bearings in brand new ones. Are they the standard bearing or the over sized version? Well again they are not brand new hubs but the bearings are brand new. Oversized bearings as they are the Heavy duty hubs yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Right little update, Noj who owned them previously said they were only used once (and from the condition I have got to say I would agree with him) so it's hard to think they have worn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I am baffled too buddy, but as said, will help where I can to ensure we get this sorted, one way or t'other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Of course, you're being brilliant about it Right well I think I have decided what to do. Blue threadlock....no too weak..... Red threadlock....maybe ok..... Green threadlock at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 150 sheets a bottle??? That is just crazy talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Yeah we have some spare at work:- https://www.cromwell.co.uk/LOC7255410A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistonhead Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Not just me hoping that's a typo then Edit: Spat my coffee out when i clicked that link!!! Edited October 16, 2013 by Pistonhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Well the actual reason is the Green threadlock in this case is very good at sticking bearings too metal shafts, or in this case metal hubs. That mixed with the fact its partially oil resistant it should hopefully fix the hub issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkfat78 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The word 'shaft' always makes me lol. Anyway, you can get some bearing locker and I've got a feeling its made by Team Fast Eddy so that might be worth a look. And just throwing this out there but where are the replacement bearings from? I'm just wondering if the old bearings were Hostile or Team Fast Eddy. Whether there would be a slight tolerance thing going on there I don't know but it might be worth a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) The word 'shaft' always makes me lol. Anyway, you can get some bearing locker and I've got a feeling its made by Team Fast Eddy so that might be worth a look. And just throwing this out there but where are the replacement bearings from? I'm just wondering if the old bearings were Hostile or Team Fast Eddy. Whether there would be a slight tolerance thing going on there I don't know but it might be worth a thought. Ah in that case....shaft I have seen that stuff but its just a variant of theadlock as far as I can tell (the green stuff). As for the bearings I have no idea as they were new spares that came with the hubs, but your right that may be the answer. To find out though I would have to spend another Edited October 16, 2013 by Feedtheinferno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadMeatUK Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 You need some of this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bearing-Size-Bottles-Adhesives-Epoxies/dp/B0062MPT1K I use it all the time at work and on my RCs. eBay will sell single bottles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 You need some of thishttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Bearing-Size-Bottles-Adhesives-Epoxies/dp/B0062MPT1K I use it all the time at work and on my RCs. eBay will sell single bottles What's it like getting the bearing out after this has been applied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadMeatUK Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Metal in metal will require a hammer and punch or heat it up to break down the bond. In plastics it's much easier to remove. When I assemble parts I don't want them coming apart so I'm happy to spend time heating and using a hammer and punch to disassemble. I use it on pinions, diff pins, removes play in suspension pins, wheel hexes, wheels onto hexes, dog-bone cups onto the shafts and even bearings! As an engineer I would be worried if a bearing didn't require force to remove it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 That's fine as I used a hammer and punch to get the old bearing's out so as long as that is all it would need again then I am happy with that. I may order some, found it for just over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadMeatUK Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 When using it make sure it doesn't run into the bearing itself as it will penetrate the best of seals and ruin them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 OK so hostile have come back to me and its as Nitro said, they seem to have worn somehow so they have also suggested threadlocking the bearing in. To be honest I am happy, have test fitted them and they look awesome so really hoped it could be sorted and it sounds a easy fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 You sure you're ok keeping these Nick? I heartily apologize, I was not aware that they had worn so quickly. Knock the cost of the threadlock from the next parts bill....if you still trust my spares anyway??!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feedtheinferno Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 You sure you're ok keeping these Nick? I heartily apologize, I was not aware that they had worn so quickly. Knock the cost of the threadlock from the next parts bill....if you still trust my spares anyway??!!?? Nothing wrong with your spares at all dude! It's not a new part and I didn't pay a new price so its not the end of the world. I am more than happy to keep them as with the amount of gap they have in the hub, threadlock should keep them in there nicely In regards to the cost of the threadlock cost, don't be silly dude I will pay the prices for your parts that we agreed I am more than happy too you have been very helpful, its all part of owning a baja. It wouldn't be fun if it was all easy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 A scholar and a gent sir, thanks for the understanding :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Ive only ever used Hostile or TFE bearings branded too fit in the Hostile hubs. Maybe there are slight differences in other brands if it isnt? Edited October 16, 2013 by Highlander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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