ta05 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Anyway it's not like I was persuaded to get an Awesomatix then I've been drooling over them for a while and since I had had it up to here *raises hand above head* with my T4 and taped joins it was a clear choice for my next ride. I may be reading this the wrong way but are you saying you've been having problems with your T4? I always thought they where meant to be a great chassis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ta05 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I may be reading this the wrong way but are you saying you've been having problems with your T4? I always thought they where meant to be a great chassis? The biggest problem I had was finding the best oil to use in the gear differentials and getting the wishbones to fall on their own weight. Now its a nice car to race with. But each to their own, we all find in good time what we're looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Do the T4's come with front and rear diff's? Or is the front one an optional extra? I initially used 3000wt oil in the rear diff on my Mi5 but have gone to the kit setting of 2000wt which has a made a fair difference to the way it handles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ta05 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Do the T4's come with front and rear diff's? Or is the front one an optional extra? I initially used 3000wt oil in the rear diff on my Mi5 but have gone to the kit setting of 2000wt which has a made a fair difference to the way it handles. No, the kit spec is a spool upfront. I got a differential for the front as a separate item. I use 500,000cst hudy oil up front, due to the fact that I race with foams indoors. Rear, indoors I would say 3,000 is about right. 2,000 may give a little more turn in (oversteer) as the diff is working less to get the front end around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantra Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 My T4 was bad over tape. We don't have good tape here, always a problem. Thing with the T4 is that it rubs on the ground a lot which means it can be flipped more easily on a raised tape edge. Other problem is that the T4 generates a lot of traction and I feel I need this traction to keep the car stable, problem here is that makes a big difference between the grip from carpet vs tape. So hit a bit of tape and the car will break traction. Answer to this problem is to soften the car and take traction away but this also means a slower softer car. So not like you can't work around this or find the ideal compromise between traction and performance over tape I'm just fed up of tuning my car for performance over tape rather than for the track layout and surface. T4 is a great car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 It's funny you mention tape, I have a pet hate against tape, last year racing GT12 my car would always slide on the tape but handled great on the rest of the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ta05 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I don't seem to have an issue with tape with my T4, I guess it all depends on what tape is used at your club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicLURcher Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Yeah my t4 is awful on tape! Not as bad as when its in the wall though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qatmix Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 X-rays usually have a lot of grip which adds to the tyres radial force. Maybe the extra slip on the tyre on the tape increases the fore-aft force which will increase the others up pushing the RFV over an acceptable limit which will mess with the lateral force making the tyre break grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantra Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Just think of it like my xray touching a piece of tape is like an F1 car putting a wheel on the grass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantra Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Another high end touring car to set up =D Bit different but really nice to work on, kinda makes others look silly in this respect and the respect of quality and dimensional tolerance. I'm overjoyed =D About to go give it a shake down =D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratman Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Thats looking bloody lovely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantra Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 It drives even better than it looks. I mean seriously can't understand how these cars aren't just winning everything out there. They feel like cheating, almost like going down 2-3 teeth on the pinion but retaining the top speed. Silly punch, had to learn how to control the throttle through the chicane tonight as I kept overshooting. Best of all, I can't stop smiling and can't wait to race again next week which is good since I can do Fri, Sat, Sun as Rug Racers is on =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratman Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Hope it goes well for you at rr. Whats it like to setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantra Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 The only annoying thing to set on it is the caster. It wouldn't be so annoying if it wasn't tied so closely with camber. It's just taking a measurement for caster is a pain. Either screw a shock shaft or long screw into the upright and read the value on a set up station or hold a straight 90deg edge on the upright and use a normal camber gauge to take the measurement. First method has parallax error so got to look straight on or it will be wrong. Second method is just awkward holding everything in place then checking the camber gauge lines up properly. This will be solved when my caster doodles arrive... Everything else on the car is very easy to set. One of the best things about working on this car is that you have to dismantle very little to get to what you need. Yesterday before I went out for my first run I noticed the rear hubs could do with some shimming. I didn't want to upset my camber/caster so I just unscrewed the plate they are attached to on the inside, popped the driveshaft out the diff outdrive and then shimmed them without removing them from the car. The car is more complicated than a standard TC but only because we aren't used to this design, really its very well designed both for performance and maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qatmix Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 It really looks superb, and it sounds like its also running well. Be good to see how the car holds up. I know it's expensive but it looks so complete and if it is as tough as they say then it looks like an attractive proposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qatmix Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I have a new shaft drive... A tb04 pro not quite an awesomatrix.. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantra Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 So who is doing what rounds of Rug Racers this year? I'm booked in for all rounds in 17.5 blinky but there are only 2 places left at the last round in that class. Still places in 13.5 and GT12 for round 3 onwards though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratman Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Bugger didnt realise it was that booked up. I better get booked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratman Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Maybe il do boosted at the last 2 rounds. Or just blinky in last round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qatmix Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Doh! I better book in for the race in March! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratman Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 What you gonna run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qatmix Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 17.5 I'm to old to run boosted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qatmix Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Booked in for 17.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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