simonrh Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Carnage is good but the original versions are 100% not waterproof. I think the current versions they are starting to flog are being sold waterproof though. Dont know what they have changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Basically they've fitted waterproof 2.4ghz radio gear, servo and ESC. You'll need a brushless combo to get it as fast as the HPI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxspeed76 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Are you sure i will need a brushless combo to get it as fast as my sons HPI E-Firestorm 10t as that only comes with a brushed 15T motor(540 TYPE) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Ah, sorry, I assumed it was a Flux. No, the stock combo will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezpellet Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 hi all has anyone found or made a set up sheet for a vantage ? or even better measurements for the suspension arms for racing on astro ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmunk79 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Hi all, Great thread, took a while to get to the end! I want to purchase one of the etronix photon combos for my carnage but can't decide on 9, 10 or 12t. Which would be better suited? Also I would like to get some different pinions, which other make can I use on this car? Thanks Just found the rw pinions, which ones are for the carnage? I'm thinking its the 48dp long boss, is this correct? Edited January 17, 2014 by [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Nope, it's Mod 0.6 fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonrh Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 RW also do 0.6 mod too though if you shop around, I have a 17t RW I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I didn't say RW didn't do em lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmunk79 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 thanks, found them. any advise on the brushless turn size and what pinion to suit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezpellet Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 thanks, found them. any advise on the brushless turn size and what pinion to suit? the million dollar question mate, have a good look through the thread, i think most people settile for a 16 or 17 ? all does depend on that motor though, im running a 5000kv motor and a 17t, but it is on a vantage pro which is a bit lighter, anyways its half the fun finding out which works and doesnt i find, which reminds me i need a temp gun !!! enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanejim69 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 So far on my Vantage my current upgrades are , Carbon front and rear shock towers Carbon top plate Carbon battery plate Tamiya TRF 201 48dp spur gears (slightly modded to fit) Tamiya 48dp pinions Tamiya TL01B long rear Blue anodized driveshafts Anodized Blue top Damper holders 3 Racing D3 Sakura 4mm clamp type Blue anodized wheel hex's White anti roll bars (medium) White tuned medium springs (Medium) Tamiya Anodized Blue stabilizer ends Tamiya Anodized Blue wheel nuts Lithium medium grease in rear diff Lithium soft grease in front diff Tamiya DF03 Wheels FTX Vantage standard Tyres Clear Vantage body and wing set painted into a tribute to the Tamiya Astute Powered by old school 8.4v Nimh custom soldered battery pack, using deans battery bars and deans connectors. Speed Passion Reventon R ESC with 5.5R Motor Spektrum DX2E Radio set Hi-Tec hi speed metal geared servo and a few small bits and pieces. Coming soon is ....... Tamiya DF03 hard type turnbuckle set Red Soft Anti roll bars Tamiya K Block 62mm tyre set and possibly lipo power. Hope you all like the new pictures http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/gallery/album/3294-/ James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullson Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Hi, why do you use medium grease in the rear and soft in the front diff, and not the uther way around? Dosent that make it hard to turn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanejim69 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) I tried many different variations of grease before settling on this setup. Works fine with what i have, so may not work for others. My DF03MS Tamiya Hard Turnbuckle kit arrived today. so got them fitted along with some lovely 3 racing 4.8mm blue ball studs. Fits perfect on the Vantage chassis. Fronts, Rears and Steering ones fitted. http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/gallery/image/26795-/http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/gallery/image/26794-sam-0511/http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/gallery/image/26793-/Just waiting on black DF03 wheels arriving so I can get the Tamiya K Block Tyres fitted. Thanks James . Edited January 20, 2014 by insanejim69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybadger Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 My Carnage is up for sale as a roller in the sale section :-( Gonna miss my first brushless but time to try something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rctech132 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Whats the max power setup that the stock carnage can handle? Edited January 25, 2014 by rctech132 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullson Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I dont understand your question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rctech132 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Sorry I corrected it dunno how it happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boffy999 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) morning gents I'm new to the forum and the sport just recently got back into RC after a 15 year break I brought I rolling vantage chassis off ebay for 69.99 and replaced the motor to a leopard v2 esc and 9t 4370kv motor with a 23t pinion and a 7.4v 5200mh 2s 30-40c after the first run I fried the esc but the shop accepted it back and I replaced them for new yesterday during the second run I melted the orange motor wire off its bullet connector the speed was ultra impressive but I think I have over powered something I do have a 3300kv motor and 60a esc sitting in the box waiting for a chassis would this be more suitable for the vantage where am I going wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :xd: Edited January 27, 2014 by boffy999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezpellet Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 morning gents I'm new to the forum and the sport just recently got back into RC after a 15 year break I brought I rolling vantage chassis off ebay for 69.99 and replaced the motor to a leopard v2 esc and 9t 4370kv motor with a 23t pinion and a 7.4v 5200mh 2s 30-40c after the first run I fried the esc but the shop accepted it back and I replaced them for new yesterday during the second run I melted the orange motor wire off its bullet connector the speed was ultra impressive but I think I have over powered something I do have a 3300kv motor and 60a esc sitting in the box waiting for a chassis would this be more suitable for the vantage where am I going wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :xd: Morning mate. Welcome to the forum. 1st up invest in a few more pinions. Get a range from 15 to 19 preferably hw hardened steel. 0.6 mod size start off with the 17. Try and try the different sizes. I'm running a 5000kv motor with a 17t pinion and it's a little toasty. But not too dramatic. I'd also cut a hole in the side of the shell so it cools the motor slightly. U would be better sorting this now as when the Summer comes it will be a lot warmer then too. I also have reduced the punch and timing settings to keep the heat down. But it is a matter of playing about with the pinion sizes until u get a nice balance between the motor esc etc etc. There is a lot if info in this thread regarding gearing plus other stuff and well worth a read ! Good luck Tez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boffy999 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 thanks for that great reply I've ordered a 15t 16t 17t what will the lower gearing give me is it faster acceleration but lower top speed have I got that the right way round is there a maths equation to work out the best ratio for the motor esc batt combination cheers kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Yeah, smaller pinion = more acceleration. Bigger pinion = more speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boffy999 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Nice one so the game is to balance accelarion top speed and heat in the motor I know a 23t burns the **** out of the motor so should I work from 15t up an see where I get the best balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300bhp/ton Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Apart from the rims, body and electrics (motor/ESC/Radio gear). Are there any differences between the brushed and brushless variants of the Carnage? e.g. are all the diff, drivetrain, shocks and such the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezpellet Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Nice one so the game is to balance accelarion top speed and heat in the motor I know a 23t burns the **** out of the motor so should I work from 15t up an see where I get the best balance Yup exactly that. Start with the 15t. And work from there. When u find something that's not hot as hell then start to play with the esc settings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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