walkbythesea Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 After 5pm I can photograph everything you’d need to know, if that helps, as I have it all at home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 A new 1060 is unlikely to be non-functional but it’s not impossible, more likely a bad motor wire or a dead motor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 So here are some pictures. I swapped the channels as suggested and yes the throttle then made the servo activate. So frustrated as when I had the wheels off and it connected but not installed the axels turned. Pictures attached Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Does everything in the transmission turn freely with no binding? Have you had the motor out at all, could you have meshed the gears too tightly when you put it back in? It’s possible that the motor may be damaged - a bad motor can sometimes turn with no load on it but as soon as you fit wheels and expect it to go it doesn’t have the torque to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 I have just done the test if directly connecting the battery (it’s ok it is brushed) and it is dead. Seems it must have been killed off and I Just got unlucky that it ran first thing. I’ve located a shop with a new motor so will pick that up. Please do let me know if you can see anything wrong with my wiring though so I don’t destroy another motor 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Does everything in the transmission turn freely with no binding? Have you had the motor out at all, could you have meshed the gears too tightly when you put it back in? It’s possible that the motor may be damaged - a bad motor can sometimes turn with no load on it but as soon as you fit wheels and expect it to go it doesn’t have the torque to work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, SXFoxstar said: I have just done the test if directly connecting the battery (it’s ok it is brushed) and it is dead. Seems it must have been killed off and I Just got unlucky that it ran first thing. I’ve located a shop with a new motor so will pick that up. Please do let me know if you can see anything wrong with my wiring though so I don’t destroy another motor 😢 Wiring and jumpers all look good, I’d just tidy it up a bit more myself, but it’s all correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 Thanks, I was thinking the same just struggling to fit all the wires in a nice little bundle that isn’t going to get hot or tangled 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) You say it worked ok before you fitted the wheels, are they too tight, a mate of mine always overtightened his wheels which made the hub bearings bind up, it cost him a new motor, but taught him a lesson 😅, just a thought 🤔 Edited May 11, 2023 by wombat Text missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, wombat said: You say it worked ok before you fitted the wheels, are they too tight, a mate of mine always overtightened his wheels which made the hub bearings bind up, it cost him a new motor, but taught him a lesson 😅, just a thought 🤔 I would have agreed this was the issue but have since had the motor out and it is dead. Whether I had tightened them too much and that did the damage I will never know 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Ok I am seriously on the verge of giving up 😭picked up the new motor today 1hr round trip. Installed it as shown. As soon as battery connected the wheel started spinning! I quickly moved the switch to alternate position assuming some kind of mis wiring but pretty sure it isn’t. It slowed then died with the ESC smoking again. I’m a grown man and I feel like crying right now. I can’t keep putting money into this and just don’t know what is happening now! I’ve tested the motor and it is still operational. But I darent touch the ESC until I have more idea wtf is wrong with the car 😭 Edited May 12, 2023 by SXFoxstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locky Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Check connectors in receiver are with red in middle and black on outside pin, I think the pic shows this. Test the motor out of the car, so that there is no resistance but dont give it full throttle. Check the voltage of your battery pack. A new esc will need to be calibrated to your tx? Recalibrate the esc. Does the esc beep once for nimh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, locky said: Check connectors in receiver are with red in middle and black on outside pin, I think the pic shows this. Test the motor out of the car, so that there is no resistance but dont give it full throttle. Check the voltage of your battery pack. A new esc will need to be calibrated to your tx? Recalibrate the esc. Does the esc beep once for nimh? So the motor works with just the battery still I think that is saved. Receiver wired as you say. My battery is NIMH (tester with the stick 1800mah 7.2v and the ESC was configured as second pic. I’m at a loss as to what is wrong. What do you mean by re calibrate? THe only instructions I can see in ESC guide is for setting throttle range, but the thing started when it was switched off! Edited May 12, 2023 by SXFoxstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locky Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Calibrate = set throttle range. So what does the esc now do when connected to the motor out of the car? Nothing no beeps or LED? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locky Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I would contact the shop your got the car from and explain your unhappy as this is a new car. A reasonable shop should help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 So I did as you suggested. Took the motor out of the car, connected the battery via the esc and this time it didn't do anything until I turned it on, but again smoke, motor started, stopped then went full throttle without any action on my part and then a lot of smoke 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Shop has said they can take a look for me but won't be in for another week so if anyone has any suggestions it'd be much appreciated. So after further testing I can see that the receiver does stay off with the esc switch in the off position and comes on when I switch it on. However the motor still continues to run regardless of the switch position, any ideas what that indicates? Edited May 12, 2023 by SXFoxstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locky Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Original motor and esc. motor stopped and esc smoked. Original motor and new 1060 esc, motor would not go. New motor and 1060 esc, motor goes immediately esc switched on and esc smokes. If the above summarises, then probably the original motor damaged the new 1060 esc. Escs have a current limit, perhaps the old motor caused a high current which has damaged components on the new 1060 esc. Edited May 12, 2023 by locky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, locky said: Original motor and esc. motor stopped and esc smoked. Original motor and new 1060 esc, motor would not go. New motor and 1060 esc, motor goes immediately esc switched on and esc smokes. If the above summarises, then probably the original motor damaged the new 1060 esc. Escs have a current limit, perhaps the old motor caused a high current which has damaged components on the new 1060 esc. Would that still happen that it runs even with the ESC switch off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, SXFoxstar said: Would that still happen that it runs even with the ESC switch off? Shouldn’t have that I can see - my gut feel is a faulty 1060 ESC which is super rare but not impossible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 I’ve asked modelsport for a replacement so let’s see what happens next 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Have you checked that the drive train is completely free moving without a motor installed? A transmission that is bound will draw more amps and could potentially blow the ESC I guess - but not with it switched off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 Yeah it is completely free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkbythesea Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I’d connect it all up without the motor fully fitted in the car to test it next time around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXFoxstar Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 I did try that and the servo worked and when switched off it was dead (correctly). It’s just when the motor is connected it runs without any reason regardless of switch on/off or transmitter on or off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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