johninderby Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft4Crawler Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bigjimknickers said: Wasn't there AF as well as whitworth? I vaguely remember working with my dad & passing him spanners as a kid & seeing all these odd spanners/sizes. Correct buddy, Whitworth, BSF, BA & AF are all "Imperial" Edited August 22, 2017 by 6ft4Crawler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 here's mine after 1hour.. left outside by my bins, lucky it was still there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Gutted! Just found a 3400kv hobbywing 3656 motor in my box, add a 10bl60 & I would've been good to go! instead I impatiently ordered the goolrc combo.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerlycarrot9 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Question: Has anyone else noticed the kinda "shaking" sound that the car makes when you start pressing the throttle slowly? I'm talking about stock brushless ESC and motor. Is it because of the gears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 That's called cogging a sensored setup usually sorts out that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 That's why I switched to sensored. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerlycarrot9 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 So it's because of the motor setup and not the gear setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerlycarrot9 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 It's weird because my friend's Yeti also has the stock Vanguard 3150kV sensorless motor but never had such issues. That's why i thought it may be caused by the gears and the lower gear ratio of the Outlaw compared to the Yeti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 I've had sensorless systems that run OK at slow speed but also ones that cog like crazy. I've even taken a system that cogged badly out of one car and put it in another where it wasn't a problem. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Are the axles M3 nuts? I don't like the serrated washer & nylock nut setup, but on the whole I'm Very impressed with the car, seems quality for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 M4 I think. I'll double check. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerlycarrot9 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, johninderby said: I've had sensorless systems that run OK at slow speed but also ones that cog like crazy. I've even taken a system that cogged badly out of one car and put it in another where it wasn't a problem. John Mhm i see. One other thing...how about changing the stock gears to the ones that the Yeti runs with or similar ones? I suppose it would make the Outlaw a little better at slow speeds. The Yeti uses a 56t gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 The pinion isn't really adjustable. Uses fixed motor mounting plates for 17t and 23t pinions. So if you changed the spurgear you'd have to come up with a pinion that precisely made up for the difference in diameter. There really should be an adjustable mounting plare to plare to make it easy too play around with the gearing. Someone else on here has been experimenting with an adjustable mounting plate though. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerlycarrot9 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, johninderby said: The pinion isn't really adjustable. Uses fixed motor mounting plates for 17t and 23t pinions. So if you changed the spurgear you'd have to come up with a pinion that precisely made up for the difference in diameter. There really should be an adjustable mounting plare to plare to make it easy too play around with the gearing. Someone else on here has been experimenting with an adjustable mounting plate though. John In that case i could change the stock 23t pinion gear to a 17t one and see if it makes a difference. I don't think i can put a bigger spur gear in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirakuli Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) This is 17t pinion from HK 0,6 modul, work perfectly Edited August 22, 2017 by mirakuli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco72 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I like this truck wish they would come out with a update chassis with a wider gearbox to fit a center diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerlycarrot9 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, mirakuli said: This is 17t pinion from HK 0,6 modul, work perfectly Does it make a difference in speed? Can the car climb more easily now? Also is that the stock spur gear? What's the max tooth number gear that can fit in there? see you don't use the stock brushless motor so i won't ask about cogging. Edited August 23, 2017 by westerlycarrot9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 18/08/2017 at 19:13, johninderby said: Definately will need the steel driveshaft as soon as you go brushless. Doesn't last even with the stock brushed motor. That motor might be a little bit much for the Oulaw. Also what's the length of the motor? A 3600 just barely fits. John Hi John, got my steel driveshaft, did you totally strip it to locktite the hex screw that's on the end? not sure how to attack it, remove c clip? Try to screw through the shaft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) It's just the grub screws that need threadlock so no disassembly required other than removing the grubscrews before fitting the shaft as they fit through the shaft on the axle as well as the driveshaft. John Edited August 23, 2017 by johninderby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete D Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Well I bit the bullet and got myself an outlaw (brushless) and on my first outing like many others I broke the chassis but it's now replaced with the aluminium one and the metal drive shaft is in but treated myself to a new body to make it look a bit different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bieomax Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Well I bit the bullet and got myself an outlaw (brushless) and on my first outing like many others I broke the chassis but it's now replaced with the aluminium one and the metal drive shaft is in but treated myself to a new body to make it look a bit different [emoji3] I like it, does it fit well?Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, johninderby said: It's just the grub screws that need threadlock so no disassembly required other than removing the grubscrews before fitting the shaft as they fit through the shaft on the axle as well as the driveshaft. John Ahh I read someone lost the counter sunk hex? i removed it anyway & thread locked it, it had none on it, then I did the grub screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Mines running now, savox 0252 on steering, steel driveshaft fitted, hobbywing 3656 3500kv motor with an old HPI flux vapour esc I found in the bin- ran round the garden sweet as!! Fast too, I'm using the 17T, so is 17T for top speed of acceleration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjimknickers Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 esc mounted for maximum airflow- the cooling fins have fallen off.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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