Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Hi, I am a totally new nitro owner and just bought two hsp 1/8 monster trucks. The seller advertised one as working and one for spares. After a two hour drive I got home and realised the "working" one has a stripped gear. My problem is I don't know what it's called to get a replacement. It's the big gear that connects to the gear that is attached to the clutch part on the engine. Can anyone help with what to search eBay for? I think I may have bought a couple of lemons thanks Edited June 21, 2016 by Nikonite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deafty Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 thats the spur gear mate. Or hauptzahnrad in german Can't use the one from the spares truck for now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Thanks bud no that one us stripped too and the gearbox is off that. I'm struggling with working our exactly what I need now. The bloke seemed genuine and I took his word. I think k I may have been had lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian w Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Can you get some pictures up that would help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Hopefully this will work, this is the car that was meant to be working: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian w Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Not easy to see from your picture but could this be the one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11164-Drive-Gear-Cog-Plastic-64T-64-Teeth-Tooth-48DP-Gear-HSP-Hi-Speed-Parts-/401040195195 Do you know what model it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazp1976 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I'm having trouble as well. The ones I have looked at have 2 speed gear boxes, yours looks like a single speed judging by the thickness of the box. Do you know which model it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian w Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Find Blacksmiths on Ebay they carry a full range of HSP spares. 5 minutes ago, dazp1976 said: I'm having trouble as well. The ones I have looked at have 2 speed gear boxes, yours looks like a single speed judging by the thickness of the box. Do you know which model it is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazp1976 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ian w said: Find Blacksmiths on Ebay they carry a full range of HSP spares. Yes I know but there are a few variants. I'm looking at all the manuals for hsp atm. I've got 62015 for the clutch bell & 62008 for the spur gear at present. Looks way bigger than a 48DP pitch to me in the photo I'm afraid. If you count the spur teeth on the top half I count about 20 which tells me that it will be around 40 ish give or take a couple No way it has 64 on it. 62008: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/62008-Gear-43T-43-Teeth-RC-Parts-1-8-HSP-Tornado-/361447485632?hash=item5427f2f0c0:g:ce4AAOSwHQ9Wap1L 62015: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/62015-Clutch-Bell-Gear-16T-HSP-Parts-1-8-Model-Buggy-Car-Truck-/321520670207?hash=item4adc2015ff:g:FFUAAOSwDk5Tu3HV @Nikonite Whip em off, put them on the desk & count the teeth on both. Be a better chance of finding the right one then bud Edited June 21, 2016 by dazp1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 I may be wrong but I could 43, I have no idea what model it is sorry but it's the same as this one: Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172202800093 After looking closely at both if them it seems the teeth on the clutches are mashed up too. There is also an aluminum plate holding up the end of the shaft that the clutch is on which has been clearly bodged in an effort to lift the clutch teeth and the wheel teeth closer together. I'm guessing it's going to get expensive now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazp1976 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dazp1976 said: Yes I know but there are a few variants. I'm looking at all the manuals for hsp atm. I've got 62015 for the clutch bell & 62008 for the spur gear at present. Looks way bigger than a 48DP pitch to me in the photo I'm afraid. If you count the spur teeth on the top half I count about 20 which tells me that it will be around 40 ish give or take a couple No way it has 64 on it. 62008: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/62008-Gear-43T-43-Teeth-RC-Parts-1-8-HSP-Tornado-/361447485632?hash=item5427f2f0c0:g:ce4AAOSwHQ9Wap1L 62015: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/62015-Clutch-Bell-Gear-16T-HSP-Parts-1-8-Model-Buggy-Car-Truck-/321520670207?hash=item4adc2015ff:g:FFUAAOSwDk5Tu3HV @Nikonite Whip em off, put them on the desk & count the teeth on both. Be a better chance of finding the right one then bud Looks like i might have the right ones above. Here's the receiver box: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60025-Receiver-Case-1-8-Parts-HSP-Tornado-/330580517456?hash=item4cf8226250:g:5lQAAOxyn~pR3QCw Servo tray: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60024-Radio-Tray-1-8-Parts-HSP-Tornado-/260806540665?hash=item3cb947fd79:g:6VkAAMXQjUNR2nJx front bumper http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/62003-Front-Bumper-Plastic-RC-Parts-1-8-HSP-Tornado-/331730152971?hash=item4d3ca86e0b:g:wY0AAOSw7FRWap0u Bumper stay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/62002-Bumper-Stay-Post-RC-Parts-1-8-HSP-Tornado-/400870639570?hash=item5d55c087d2:g:KuwAAOSwe-FU7G6F Front tower http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60007-Alloy-Blue-Front-Shock-Tower-x-1-1-8-Parts-HSP-Tornado-/331037287480?hash=item4d135c2438:g:CSMAAOxyAZ9STTWp Rear tower http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60008-Rear-Shock-Tower-x-1-1-8-Parts-HSP-Tornado-/250843269553?hash=item3a676c89b1:g:t7gAAMXQQQZR2nIw Edited June 21, 2016 by dazp1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 I may be wrong but I could 43, I have no idea what model it is sorry but it's the same as this one: Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172202800093 After looking closely at both if them it seems the teeth on the clutches are mashed up too. There is also an aluminum plate holding up the end of the shaft that the clutch is on which has been clearly bodged in an effort to lift the clutch teeth and the wheel teeth closer together. I'm guessing it's going to get expensive now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian w Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 @Nikonite Exploded views of HSP nokier with part nos. http://www.myrc.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=801 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty lucky I guess as blacksmith is in Crawley where I live the 43 tooth one posted above looks spot on, I think I will also need some servos and clutches and a set of driveshafts from what I can see. I'm a bit concerned that they will just strip again as the Ali Block the shaft sits on looks well bodged on both of them. Edited June 21, 2016 by Nikonite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian w Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I have never worked on HSP`s but that just don`t look right. The clutch bell should not be leaning on an Ali block. It looks to me that something has broken on the engine fixtures and that has been added to try and support it. Is there anyway you can return them to the seller for a refund?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Both of the cars are the same, I agree it looks dodgy. The seller is a two hour round trip for me. I guess when I mentioned I was new to cars he rubbed his hands in glee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian w Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The only thing I can sugest is you strip it down looking for broken parts then rebuild replacing any thing that looks broken. Or stick them on Ebay as spares or repair and cur your losses. Sorry can`t be more helpfull. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) You have all been very helpful. I'm guessing I need to learn all this stuff so seems like they may be my best chance of doing so. If I can manage to fix one I should know the car inside out. Both engines start and run well so that's something. There were a few broken servos in the box and I have managed to change a broken gear from inside one for a good one and that is now working. I think so far I need: 2 x gears 2 x clutches 1 x aa batteryholder for the servos 2 x driveshafts 2 of the upright posts that hold the body on A transmitter as one is broken An aerial for the one that works as end is snapped And to find out if that aluminum Block that the engine shaft sits on is right. I will try and look at the exploded views later on a computer and see as I'm on a phone right now. Thanks everyone for taking the time to help, I know new people can be a bit annoying and it is appreciated. Edited June 21, 2016 by Nikonite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazp1976 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Ian w said: @Nikonite Exploded views of HSP nokier with part nos. http://www.myrc.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=801 That's the one I've been working from Trying to find a slightly better one as it could be confusing for some with it having the shared parts then the variation parts later on. So far that's all I can see too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian w Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, dazp1976 said: That's the one I've been working from Trying to find a slightly better one as it could be confusing for some with it having the shared parts then the variation parts later on. So far that's all I can see too. Nope tried all ideas I had but can`t come up with anything better then that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 I can get the clutches and gears I need from blacksmith tomorrow but I'm worried about throwing another £40 away) not even including the other parts I need) has anyone ever seen a system like this? I am worried that these aluminum blocks are a crude attempt at replacing some kind of bearing system I can't see on the plans above. Should the end of the shaft even need supporting? I'm wondering if it was added to try and lift the clutch gear to better mesh with a worn gear. This really isn't helping my argument to the wife I was better buying two so I had some spares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian w Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I would think that it has been added to support some thing that has bent or broken. Check the engine mountings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikonite Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 I'm not sure what they should look like but it has a metal block bolted to chassis and 4 screws holding the engine to that. There is no movement in the engine, I can't even lift the clutch and shaft 1mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomr Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I've had one of these and the alloy block is fitted from the box,The reason I think is because the engine sits on extensions that sit on top of the engine mounts so the block stops the engine moving if/ when you have a bad landing on the engine etc check your engine mounts and all bolts are tight and check to see if the chassis is straight. mine also had an alloy support around the spur gear nut which stopped the gearbox moving 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian w Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 minute ago, tomr said: I've had one of these and the alloy block is fitted from the box,The reason I think is because the engine sits on extensions that sit on top of the engine mounts so the block stops the engine moving if/ when you have a bad landing on the engine etc check your engine mounts and all bolts are tight and check to see if the chassis is straight. mine also had an alloy support around the spur gear nut which stopped the gearbox moving There you go I was hoping someone would come along who had owned one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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