jonesyba42p Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I recently brought the above model second hand and im after some setup tips for smooth tarmac, basicaly im struggling with transitions (switching directions while maintaining the drift, the middle bit of a fig 8). Ive reverted the geometry back to the stock setup sheet as it was running huge camber and toe so was pretty undrivable. Since ive adopted mittos settings off Mst and it drifts ok. Its running a 1.54 cs and is on mst's soft tyres on 6mm rims as thats what it came with. The back seems to snap round to quick and is hard to catch, i can drift round cones and single corners but really struggle with transitions, i think its setup related not my driving. Any tips greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenyboy Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Try the hard of super hard tyres for Tarmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesyba42p Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Thanks, that was going to be my next change. Just trying to get a good base setup for camber toe shock position etc, its running silver springs all round and unknown shock oil. It also has a rear anti roll bar which i dont think is standard, came with 3 different ones of various thicknesses. Currently has one with a gold dot on it. Holds a drift well IMO its just really snappy on direction changes making it hard to catch the drift, can catch it occasionaly but i think it's more luck than skill lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratcher Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 What are your settings at the moment? Is it an RTR set up? If the back end is a bit wild you can dial more grip into it. Try lowering the back a little, raising the front, changing the damper angles, adding toe to the rear, cam er to the front. Just do one change at a time so you can see where the difference has been made and so that you can change it back if you need to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesyba42p Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Thanks for the responses, I'll post some pics in the morning and a more detailed current setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesyba42p Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 I took it out last night and the adjustments i did to try improve the handling only made it worse! So ive gone through the build manual: and used their initial setup: etc, except for track width and ride height as that was already set according to:. Heres some pics of the chassis then ill list the settings: Setup: front = camber -5deg (4.5mm) Toe out 3deg (14mm) Caster 10deg i think? Ride height 6mm Rear = camber -5deg (9mm) Toe in 4deg (6mm) Caster 10deg i think? Ride height 5mm The mm measurement is the gap between turnbuckles I dont have a proper toe gauge so im improvising: Its on mst red dot tyres (soft i believe) on 6mm offset rims: Mainly run on smooth tarmac. Any tips/help/advice is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratcher Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 The first thing I'd do is lay the front damper down a bit more by moving them to the inner hole on the top mount. That'll remove a little grip from the front and send it towards the rear. I haven't run my car on tarmac for almost a year so I can't remember exactly how I set it all up, but it'll vary from car to car. If moving the dampers doesn't give you enough of an impact, lower the rear a little more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesyba42p Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Much appreciated i will give that a go. Ive been chatting to a guy at soul rc this morning and my ride height setting was wrong, floor to bottom of chassis was 9mm front and 7mm rear (manual said it was the measurement on the shock, from adjuster to top hence my 6 and 5). ive since lowered it to 6mm front and 5 rear from the floor as advised but have yet to try it. Do you think my improvised method for measuring toe is at all accurate? It never occured to me it could be to much grip at the front, assumed it was not enough at the rear. Ill take it out later today and report back. Thanks for your continued help[emoji3] Edited July 1, 2015 by jonesyba42p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratcher Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 No worries Mitto and James are very helpful guys. They really know the MST chassis inside and out too. The grip level is all down to a ballance. As you add grip to one end of the chassis you're actually moving it away from the opposite end. It's just finding the sweet spot that's tricky. Let us know how you get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesyba42p Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 It was james i was speaking to earlier, helpfull chap. Need to get some appropriate tyres before i really start tuning it as im running softs at the mo. Yea i see what your saying,its reading how it behaves and learning what to adjust. Im sure i will be posting lots of questions lol. Does my toe gauge look ok?cant see any other way other than buying an expensive setup rig. Yep will keep updating as i go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenyboy Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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