evssv Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Hyper 7 .21.....just type hyper 7 into ebay and see what comes up......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedrum2010 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yep, definitely Kyosho for build quality, spec and reliability. As i said, I've got both, both bought within the last month and within a week of each other. The kyosho oozes quality. The hobao is constructed of lesser quality materials, some design faults such as throttle/brake linkage snags on air filter assembly etc. Also the philips screws that are being referred to have been around for along time and are nice and chunky on the kyosho as compared to the tiny hex heads on the hobao in important locations such as engine mountings etc. I think the problem here is that people take advice as the op has asked, buy a hobao, then at a later date don't like to admit that they have bought an inferior quality product at a slightly higher price than the superior kyosho. It was also mentioned earlier in the thread that parts are readily available, partly due to people breaking them down and selling parts on ebay, ask yourself why you would break down a perfectly serviceable rc nitro truck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nitroholic Posted January 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2015 Phillips heads require the correct size screwdriver.....and firm pressure to keep it located. Usually, when people round them off it's because they used a screwdriver that was 'close'...but not close enough. Hex heads are simpler to use, and provide more surface area for the tool to bear on. I have yet to hear of anyone swapping hex heads out for Phillips in ANY application, let alone RC. Conversion the other way is common. You will also find the EXACT same size engine bolts in Hong Nor, HPI and on my old XTM. All are M4 hex heads on my cars. The reason people break a perfectly good car is because the price of new spares are always higher than the cost of the car they make up. Buy a new car, and you can sell the parts off cheaper than new retail spares and still make a profit. Only works if there are lots of potential customers so you can shift the bulk of it in reasonable time....so don;t bother unless it's a very popular model. That's why Hyper 7s make commercial sense to split a new kit. Simples. Additionally...there is no evidence I can see of Hobao using 'inferior materials'. I've hammered mine hard enough and it hasn't broken. Last Kyosho Inferno I cam across ended up with a bent rear shock tower after a very mild tumble. The Hyper 7 has a reputation for durability and I have seen that proven many times at bashes, and I am not alone there. Don't get me wrong....I own Kyosho products...but in my experience, they need more looking after than a Hyper. The handling is better...but if you are just hammering round the local park, is than important? You are clearly concerned about all of us buying 'inferior' products and desperately defending them ..... but, if I was a cruel person, I would suggest you are doing the same with your Kyosho..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedrum2010 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Clearly any fixing head requires the correct size tool for the job. Nope not concerned about anybody buying or owning an inferior quality product either. I own both and the Kyosho is clearly better in terms of material quality, design and manufacturer quality control. This is based purely upon my own personal opinion and was intended to help the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomr Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Clearly any fixing head requires the correct size tool for the job. Nope not concerned about anybody buying or owning an inferior quality product either. I own both and the Kyosho is clearly better in terms of material quality, design and manufacturer quality control. This is based purely upon my own personal opinion and was intended to help the OP. Just goes to show that not all advice is good advice ha ha if your trying to help the OP please stop giving him poor info Do you have pics of theses two buggys of yours ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedrum2010 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I am not giving him poor advice. He asked, i gave my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwigga Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) So its down to the Hong Nor and the hyper, one of the main ones stupid as it may sound is the lack of e-clips on the hinge pins on the hyper There are a couple of other reasons Savox servo's in the Hyper for one Edited January 29, 2015 by Gwigga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Kyosho over Hobao any day. Hobao have the advantage on parts support thats it! Hyper 7 and st are great cars, no doubt, but thats it. the new ss and sst are weak in comparison. The hyper mt again weak rubbish, and these are their newest cars. Whats gonna happen when they stop the hyper 7 and st and spares are all used up. What will people do?..... Sorry im bored of hypers everyone has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 So its down to the Hong Nor and the hyper, one of the main ones stupid as it may sound is the lack of e-clips on the hinge pins on the hyper There are a couple of other reasons Savox servo's in the Hyper for one The savox servos are crap, they may be savox but just like nearly all servos in rtr's they are rubbish. Dont be fooled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwigga Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Kyosho over Hobao any day. Hobao have the advantage on parts support thats it! Hyper 7 and st are great cars, no doubt, but thats it. the new ss and sst are weak in comparison. The hyper mt again weak rubbish, and these are their newest cars. Whats gonna happen when they stop the hyper 7 and st and spares are all used up. What will people do?..... Sorry im bored of hypers everyone has one. How are the hinge pins fixed? out of interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) How are the hinge pins fixed? out of interest I think they are clips which you dont want, but its no great hardship, they are a bit of a pain but i would not let it become a deal breaker. Its entirely up to you in the end. If you want the hyper go for it, they are good cars and everyone gets them and there is a reason for that. I would get something different tho! Edited January 29, 2015 by RCpete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedrum2010 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Couldn't agree more with RCpete. Kyosho is superior. As said i have both. After getting the hyper7 though i wished I'd just bought a second kyosho neo 2.0 As said get the one you fancy, dont just go for the hyper because everyone else has one. Parts are readily available for the kyosho. Edited January 29, 2015 by Thedrum2010 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Plus Kyosho have been making 1/8th buggies since the days of the Burns in the 80's, it must count for something. They invented the 1/8th buggies. Infact even before the Burns there were others. Edited January 29, 2015 by RCpete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedrum2010 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Plus Kyosho have been making 1/8th buggies since the days of the Burns in the 80's, it must count for something. They invented the 1/8th buggies. Infact even before the Burns there were others.Here here. Spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwigga Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 I've had a look online and can't find many option parts for the neo are the mp9 or 7.5 direct fits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedrum2010 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yes, virtually all parts are a direct fit. Also when reading reviews dont get the old gx21 engine confused with the new ke21r. Much better engine in the neo 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwigga Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Well thanks guys for all the pro's and cons! Finally made my decision and the car is now on order! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Well thanks guys for all the pro's and cons! Finally made my decision and the car is now on order! What did you go for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwigga Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 What did you go for? Kyosho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim46 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I th8nk you mad3 good choice, some vids ive seen on kyosho buggys and truggys look awsome, even on rtr models , they look very fast for rtr, as said may nerd moor attention and care, but if properly looked after bet they are very good buggys, olny seem one once last year on local bmx track, it was the rtr truggy race spec, and it was awsome, i wad running hpi truggy rtr then, and can tell you the that the kyosjo was better in every way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCpete Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Kyosho Nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistonhead Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I was about to point out that even the Hyper 7 and X3 Sabre are under different brands over here, but are both sold under the Ofna brand elsewhere, i've found just as many spares when searching for the 'Ofna X3 Sabre' as the Hyper 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedrum2010 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Good choice mate, enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwigga Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Well it arrives Tuesday hopefully !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedrum2010 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 How are you getting on with the inferno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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